Is Wall Street South Worth the Hype?

With major firms from Citadel to Point72 opening offices in Miami during the pandemic, there was excitement that Miami was on its way to becoming a hub for the corporate finance industry. Five years later, do you think the so-called Wall Street South has lived up to the hype?

What do you think of the lifestyle and culture in Miami compared to New York City? And what about the corporate finance industry itself -- are there a lot of opportunities? 

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Unless you are the “Miami type,” Miami is kind of a shithole. Great place for a vacation, but I’d never live there. 

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I don't think it will ever be a major financial hub, except for entities covering LatAm from there. My perspective:

  • Of the entities down there, most are satellite offices and are comparatively small. It's typically 1-2 partners on the downswing of their career who got tired of paying taxes and wanted to golf more. For juniors, that likely creates a different energy/learning culture relative to hubs, and has other cons for career advancement (i.e. lack of visibility to the majority of the firm)
  • Because of the above, there's no synergy to being down there right now -- few banks / research analysts / peers / operating companies are going to be in or coming through your area. Look at Andreesen going "all-in" on Miami, opening an office and heavily promoting the area, only to quietly shut it down 3 years later
  • Talent acquisition / retention to the area is hard aside from a very specific personality type (see the other comments on this thread). This is impossible to prove, but I think the "scammy" reputation of the area precludes the development of homegrown firms and reinforces the dynamics in #1/2. LPs do a lot of amateur psychology on emerging managers, and one who setup shop in Miami feels like they might be someone who coasts and/or runs off with the bag
 
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I wish reporters actually interviewed live human beings and not 16 years olds on a message board who are cosplaying as financiers. 

...but is it REPE?
 

I think West Palm Beach has much greater long term potential as a "Wall Street South" than Miami does, which as people have previously stated is much more LatAm/international money, crypto BS and satellite offices. There is a reason Stephen Ross has moved his operations down to West Palm Beach from NYC and is investing billions into redeveloping the city - just look at the City Place development project Related Ross recently finished to get an idea of the growth trajectory. 

Know a decent amount of shops, albeit mostly institutionally-sized family offices and hedge funds, that have moved operations down there. Originally this was usually just the principal/seniors wanting to hit 6 months + 1 day to satisfy Florida residency for the tax break, but seeing a growing trend where these guys are staying longer or have moved their families down there full time. Lot of capital floating around due to proximity to Palm Beach and the concentration of private wealth management & private client bank branches for most of the big players. 

 

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