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Imo, fraternities aren't really prestigious anymore. Overall public perception of greek life is in the gutter because of kids dying or becoming disabled from hazing, only strengthening the dumb, drunk frat stereotype. Most universities in the US despise fraternities and are actively trying to destroy them. As a result, most of the largest fraternities have removed their pledge process altogether or have softened it to where the entire pledge process is monitored by the frat's national HQ and the university's interfraternity council (IFC). While I don't condone extreme hazing that leads to injury or death, removing the pledge process and the core concept of exclusivity has destroyed all incentive to join greek life. 

In my college days we had to register our tailgates with a pre-approved guest list, rope off our (dry) tailgate area with a clear entry and exit, register off campus parties with the university and local police department, and attend any "workshop" the university decided to hold. If you were just a bunch of non-greek life buddies living in a house somewhere, you weren't subjected to any of that shit. Get caught underage drinking at your frat house or event, you'll be treated like an alcoholic who needs serious help by the university and you'll have to attend programs.

Back in the day, there were serious benefits of joining a fraternity. Before uber and lyft existed, most fraternities had a sober drive program where all of the pledges were required to standby on weekends to sober drive around brothers to and from the bars, free of charge. You had access to the biggest parties on campus, sororities, free uber, and test banks from every major. In the present day, none of that exists. It's just not worth it to join a frat these days if you want to have fun and not add more work to your plate. 

 
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Imo, fraternities aren't really prestigious anymore. Overall public perception of greek life is in the gutter because of kids dying or becoming disabled from hazing, only strengthening the dumb, drunk frat stereotype. Most universities in the US despise fraternities and are actively trying to destroy them. As a result, most of the largest fraternities have removed their pledge process altogether or have softened it to where the entire pledge process is monitored by the frat's national HQ and the university's interfraternity council (IFC). While I don't condone extreme hazing that leads to injury or death, removing the pledge process and the core concept of exclusivity has destroyed all incentive to join greek life. 

In my college days we had to register our tailgates with a pre-approved guest list, rope off our (dry) tailgate area with a clear entry and exit, register off campus parties with the university and local police department, and attend any "workshop" the university decided to hold. If you were just a bunch of non-greek life buddies living in a house somewhere, you weren't subjected to any of that shit. Get caught underage drinking at your frat house or event, you'll be treated like an alcoholic who needs serious help by the university and you'll have to attend programs.

Back in the day, there were serious benefits of joining a fraternity. Before uber and lyft existed, most fraternities had a sober drive program where all of the pledges were required to standby on weekends to sober drive around brothers to and from the bars, free of charge. You had access to the biggest parties on campus, sororities, free uber, and test banks from every major. In the present day, none of that exists. It's just not worth it to join a frat these days if you want to have fun and not add more work to your plate. 

For the current round of things, I'd agree. But for those of us from "back in the day", the networking thing is real and so is the sober driver designee. Never had to do the pre-approved guest list thing though. Sure we had issues pop up here and there, but they used to be dealt with in-house (no pun intended) and the university would trust you to handle it. And before anyone says the old thing of "you're just buying friends"? Piss off. Maybe now, but back when I was in there we actually did have brotherhood. Even among other greek organizations. Still have lasting friendships literally half a lifetime later. Walking around the office you could tell who was in greek life because of the old school quiet rules where you don't have a first name just a last name. "Hey Dan!"? Nope, "Hey Walkinshaw!"? Yes. And a lot of us got that opportunity to get the job and walk around the office because of said network.

Sure, if someone pulls some stunt and does something illegal, arrest their ass, expel them and at least put an asterisk on their name if not remove it completely. Those of us with integrity don't want to be associated with them and let them give us a bad name instead of keeping that bad name to themselves.

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Generally agree. Networking opportunities are still there if you join a strong chapter.

Sure, if someone pulls some stunt and does something illegal, arrest their ass, expel them and at least put an asterisk on their name if not remove it completely. Those of us with integrity don't want to be associated with them and let them give us a bad name instead of keeping that bad name to themselves.

That's how it should be but it's not really how it works anymore. The issue is that universities have defined hazing as "potential new members doing an activity that an equal number of members are not doing themselves". One person screws up and it's a big investigation with the university and national HQ that puts a target on your back regardless if you were involved or not. They'll literally kick the chapter off campus based on the actions of one person. Left out a load of other stuff in my original post and I could talk endlessly about this topic. It's just not worth it these days with the amount of bs you have to put up with.

 

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