UFC Turning into WWE
What the heck even happened after the Khabib-McGregor fight?
Ever since his fight with Mayweather, McGregor has been embracing that WWE lifestyle. Look, he's got banter and it's funny to hear him take a laugh at his opponents but he's been taking it too far as of late. I mean Connor got arrested earlier this year for attacking his opponent's bus.
Forget McGregor for now because the other lunatic thought it would be a good idea to jump over the octagon and start brawling with one of Connor's crew members. Are you serious?? People saying that Dillon Danis (the guy that was attacked) insulted Khabib. You won the fight, you are undefeated, why do you care what anyone has to say to you?? Instead, for the first time in UFC history, a winner was announced without being present in the octagon because security had to escort Khabib from the arena. Shameful.
Also, three of Khabib's hooligans got arrested for attacking McGregor after the fight. God damn it, I swear this is what happens after almost every WWE fight, not the damn UFC.
I'm not really a fan of either but this whole exaggerated drama is ruining the UFC in my opinion. I'm pretty sure there are loads of people that like it and maybe that helps get the ratings (McGregor will be making around $50 million from this fight) but it is ruining the company's brand.
Unless it was scripted, I doubt the comparison fits.
The thing is, characters sells. McGregor was one of the first to learn that. Rousey was another, Lesnar is another and he is from WWE. It's the name that sells tickets. You'll be tuning in to watch the second bout, won't you? That's all that matters: it's real and gives you a reason to watch.
Isn't it kind of pointless to be throwing water bottles at one another in the context of, "We're already scheduled for gladiatorial battle"?
Badass fight. Khabib lays out McGregor despite multiple violations from McGregor (short grabbing, cage grabbing, glove grabbing, kneeing on the ground) then goes straight for his groupie Dillon Dannis outside the Octagon right after. Mad props to Khabib. Everyone is ignoring the fact McGregor called Khabib a terrorist (he's Muslim), insulted his Father, and his crew attacking his bus. Can't hate on a man that doesn't take shit from anyone.
Loved waking up to the Facebook, and Instagram feed hammered with "kill your local Muslims." Let the saltiness sink in.
Also Dillon Dannis instigated a lot of this, he was hanging over the Octagon talking shit to Khabib before the fight. Quit treating him like a victim.
Agreed 100%
I’m glad McGregor got his ass kicked. But up until now Khabib has kept his cool even with all that Conor dolly shenanigans and insulting his religion / family or calling him a terrorist. Maybe it was just adrenaline pumping or last straw thing, but I wished he didn’t go after Danis (even if he did bring it upon himself), cause now there’s all this noise taking away from his decisive win over McGregor. Hopefully they don’t do something stupid like take his title. They’re (UFC / Dana) are already so pro-Conor that it doesn’t take much for them to do something like this.
Had Khabib not lost his mind - accepted the tap, put the fur hat on Joe Rogan & thanked the UFC - today everyone would be talking about how he mauled Conor and is legit one of the greatest EVER.
Other thoughts: Conor has always been respectful post defeat. Now he has everyone right where he wants them, he's still the king of the UFC. He's so good at taking any situation and spinning it to his advantage.
In the end Khabib should have memorized, "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me".
I don't know if I really want to see Conor v Khabib 2. I would love to see if Tony Ferguson can do anything to Khabib/Conor.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the "terrorist" remark aimed at Khabib's manager? I think that guy had well-documented connections to some extremist group before getting into the fight promotion game.
UFC has sucked after the first couple of years. Used to be great seeing no holds barred, true mixed martial arts fighting. Now everyone is a grappler and it’s just fluff and drama.
Whatever happened to good old Pride Fighting, eh... like Mirko Cro Cop.
Interestingly, this kick did not knock Mark Hunt out, as he in fact won a split decision. Usually true what they say about Cro Cop, "Right kick, hospital. Left kick, cemetery." Arguably two of the absolute best strikers ever in MMA, what a fight that was.
Did you see the Derrick Lewis vs Alexander Volkov or the Tony Ferguson vs Anthony Pettis fights?
They were amazing
There is no need to complain when you pay for a fight, and a fight happens. It is like buying a 6-pack chicken nuggets meal but you open the box, and there's 7 pieces. As long as no one get hurt, these sort of brawls are great.
This is the ghettoest sport. I get that it takes skill and training to do the things they're doing. But it still just amounts to an organized street brawl, with guys who have turned their feet and arms into lethal weapons. I want to learn some of this stuff, but I hope I never have to engage in this type of activity.
The two Khabibs cronies who jumped in the cage, or ANYONE, who threw a sucker punch are the scum of the earth.
This. As I said below I'm very pro-Conor, but I actually don't have a problem with Khabib jumping the cage. The two dudes that jumped in to sucker punch Conor are a different story.
Conor threw the first sucker punch on one of Khabibs cornermen while the guy was sitting on the cage. Re-watch the footage...
so much rematch $$$$$
If there is a rematch I will never give another $ to the ufc
People are shocked largely because they don’t know who Khabib/his team is. They are from dagestan and chechnya, where honor comes above all else, quite literally (you can be killed for saying the kind of shit mcgregor said in the buildup)... they dont fuck around. So, unlike western fighters where money is the end goal, these guys are there to show they are the best, gain respect and make their people proud. Thats why Khabib refuses to engage in trash talk.
I don’t want to see a rematch not only because the fight wasn’t even close (just domination), but also because I’m tired of seeing this bum mcgregor hold up one of the weight divisions with the most potential in the sport.
I might be in the minority on this, and in fairness I'm very pro-Conor, but I didn't see it as domination at all. Khabib was clearly better on the ground and Conor was clearly better standing up. Conor won round 3 and I was actually surprised he was tapped after that.
With all due respect, if you can't see how Khabib dominated the entire fight with the exception of maybe 2 strikes from mcgregor, you don't know shit about the fight gam. Not only did Khabib dominate, but he dominated while mcgregor broke rules on several occasions and got away with it (glove grabbing, fence grabbing, some suspicious elbows and back-of-the head strikes).
Khabib used one of the most chicken-shit techniques to win the fight. Honestly, if you watched all of the other fights leading up to it, that was the most boring to watch of the night as far as the fight itself. It's a legal move, and he's allowed to do it, but that was basically a wrestling match. I won't be watching again when he fights because of it.
As far as the shit-show afterward - I don't care where you're from or what the 'culture' of your people is, you don't sucker punch people. If he's so concerned with 'honor' then he and his team should get that. Shit talking is shit talking, if you aren't smart enough to come up with a retort then suck it up. He won the fight anyway so WTF does he care about? The dude basically wore a fucking chinchilla on his head in the walk-in, so it's not like he's not a cocky MF himself. That behavior isn't unique to McGregor.
I don't watch UFC but this is whiny as fuck bro. He is a professional fighter, his objective is to win within the rules not to entertain you. Contrary to the title of this thread, UFC is not WWE. Who gives a shit what technique he uses to win as long as it is legal? Just come out and say you're a salty Conor fan and move on, my goodness.
Here we fucking go..... I'm not a salty McGregor fan. He's a douche-bag also, but in different ways. Just because I don't like what Khabib did or how he fights doesn't mean I'm a McGregor fan. Your false equivalency potential is truly praiseworthy.
The objective isn't to entertain me? Really? So, your argument is that his bullshit Chechnyan code of honor is more valuable to Dana White than the potential loss of viewership/patronage/sponsorship from what could possibly be a good % of the fan base?
See the NFL. Have you noticed that the rules are constantly changing on play stoppage/penalty rulings, etc.? Why do you think that is? Maybe because the NFL was going in a direction that was making it un-fucking watchable with all the stoppage time? Do you think there's any correlation with why the MLB has had a decline in viewership relative to other, more interesting sports to watch? If I wanted to watch two dudes cuddle on the floor for 5 minutes I'll watch brokeback mountain. "The job of a professional athlete isn't to entertain." ROFL.
I feel very embarrassed for you....so incredibly ignorant. How is wearing a hat from your culture a cocky thing to do hahaha.
By that same logic, an American wearing a snapback on his way to a football game is a cocky thing to do?
What the fuck? Wrestling is literally half of the sport. Go watch boxing if you dont like watching people get choked.
Khabib dropped Conor with a vicious overhand right and landed ground and pound from top position in the 2nd round. It’s a technical battle between two specialists: one being a grappler and the other being a striker. If you can’t appreciate that, it’s simple, don’t watch fights haha. Wrestling match? Gtfo lol.
Spot on.
You can't have it both ways - if you want to compete in an American sport on American territory where American rules apply, then you play by the rules. If McGregor wants to go fight in Chechnya or Dagestan where they'd rather kill themselves than let some stranger that doesn't matter say anything about their 3rd cousin twice removed, then they can play by those rules where they are from on their turf. A shit move is a shit move.
as someone from the ex-USSR, chechens and dagestanis are some of the most frightening motherfuckers you will ever meet....Ramzan kadyrov is a prime example
Hard time believing this wasn't at least partially scripted. Would argue the entire thing was. McGregor is the only real draw they have and this would drum up about as much interest in the rematch as they could.
I would say 0 chance it was partially or entirely scripted
Reasons I'd say it was...
Camera being zoomed in on/being all aroundKhabib the entire time when he jumped the cage, then switching at the perfect time to catprue Khabib's crony's jumps in the cage and subsequent brawl with McGreggor.
First thing Khabib does after winning the biggest fight of his life if throw is listen to McGreggor's cornerman's trash talk from the other side of the cage (place was rocking, not sure how he hear him initially), continue to trash talk him, throw his mouth guard at him, and then climb the cage to brawl with him
Khabib jumps the cage but doesn't do anything, which wasn't due to security, as they were late getting over there after initially standing around to get between the two of them
Khabib's crony jumps the cage and gets 3 punches to McGreggor, completely blindsiding him and yet none of land close to cleanly.
They let both speak after the fight in a press conference after all hell broke loose in a post match melee reminiscent of a gang street brawl
McGreggor doesn't press charges against the dudes who took complete blindside shots to his head after an exhausting fight where he was dominated
McGreggor tweets about a rematch a couple hours after the fight ends
UFC outside of McGreggor is hurting. Biggest draws are gone in GSP, Silva, and Brock (although he's coming back for one more fight)
This will be the biggest ppv buy rate of all time and a rematch would do even bigger numbers, especially with the added circumstances surrounding the ending
I sat ring-side and it was Connor who threw the first punch. Dillon, Connor’s BJJ coach had been insulting Khabib the entire fight. He shut-up at the end but Khabib's manager who was seated behind the Connor corner, made his way to the Octagon and pushed Dillon.
This pissed off Dillon, he reignited his shit talking and beckoned for Khabib to fight him. Khabib scaled the fence and at the same time Khabib’s cousin Abubakar and Connor chased after him. As they both sat on top of the fence yelling at Khabib, Connor threw the first punch which landed directly in his eye and Abubakar retaliated by smacking him several times with an empty water bottle. Security pulled Abubakar away but not before Connor landed another solid punch.
This enraged Khabib’s team as Abubakar is an older guy. Khabib’s first teammate rushed to stop security from pulling away Abubakar, but did a 180 and rushed towards Connor. Expecting retaliation for throwing the first punches, Connor threw a punch which landed and moved out of the way from the teammates punch.
Zubaira, who was in the red shirt and scheduled to fight Artem Lobov (Connor’s teammate) in October, scaled the fence during the melee with the first teammate and hit Connor with multiple shots to the backside.
Last thing: Connor apologized twice during the fight, but Khabib wasn’t having any of it. Too bad it’s not captured on camera.
Confirms my point above that Conor struck first. Pretty jealous of you, must've been awesome being there ring side huh
From what I've last heard, Khabib didn't get paid as Nevada Athletic State Commission withheld his earnings from the card. He was supposed to make at least 2M and now he may faced a possible 2M fine.
That said, a less extreme WWE-like incident was when Brock Lesnar pushed DC in the octagon after DC's match with Stipe for the heavyweight belt. WWE 101. It would be some funny shit if they gave Jon Jones the Lesnar fight.
Finally, how come nobody is talking about the Pettis and Ferguson fight? That one was entertaining!
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