Hey guys, so I’m a non target who recently got an offer at a (Blair,Lokey,Jefferies) for 2019. I wrestled in high school and have always loved lifting and staying in shape. I’m a little worried about what my banking schedule is gonna be like next year and where I’ll be able to fit lifting in. Are there any bankers here who are diced like onions, peeled like a potatoe and shredded like paper who can tell me about how they find time to lift? Thanks friends.
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I go every morning if possible. Only way to guarantee you can get a workout in (almost) every day.
How early we talking? and what time do you generally leave the office? Thanks for your response btw.
~7:20-8:30 at the gym (wake up a bit before 7), into the office at 9. Now that I'm in my 3rd year I'm not in the office super late that frequently, but my general rule is if I finish working before midnight I'm for sure working out the next morning, after 2am definitely a no-go, in-between varies depending on if I've had a string of really bad nights or not.
go to equinox in the morning - only way to get diced.
What time we talkin breh?
7 on the dot. mix in some classes. hit juice press on the way out every time.
Good Stuff. Gotta keep that Joocy pump. Much Respect.
do you even lift BRO?
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I work out 1 - 2 weekdays per week from 8pm - 9pm, and every Saturday and Sunday. Working 65 - 95 hours per week, ~75 average.
Very useful information. Thank you! Much respect.
I’m in an M&A group, so my hours are never less then 90.
Almost exact same philosophy as the first guy. I always go Monday and Saturday mornings. I like to hit free weights and then cardio so I try to get in at 6:30 and then leave by 8:30. Every other day during the week is dependent on how much I worked the night before. If I can wrap up before midnight then I’ll go the next morning if not it’s honestly not worth it. The body needs sleep and if you try to consistently work out on 4 hours sleep every night you’ll, look, feel, and perform at work light complete dogshit.
You have the right idea though in my mind everyone should be trying to at least get some form of cardio in 4 times a week. My fellow bankers sometimes roll there eyes when they hear about me waking up early to work out. But we’ll have the last laugh when they all die of diabetes and heart attacks by 65.
Also some people go at the gym in the evening (around 7-8pm) and then come back to the office.
If I were you, I'd hop on a clean bulk during your analyst stint and try incorporating dianabol into your daily rituals to cut down your workout time.
Stay shredded brah
Nah just eat Clen, Tren hard, Anavar give up!
Built a gym at home so I workout around 5 or 6 am and then again around 7 pm 4 to 5x a week. I don't have to go to a physical office though and each workout is 20 to 40 min of heavy lifting. If I end up with an early morning call then I just move my lifting session up or down depending on my schedule. Obviously when I get super busy I can't work out 2x a day and just do it the normal way once a day. Can usually just eat a can of tuna or whatever while on the phone too thanks to the magic of Plantronics.
Two-a-days? Sick. Squats / deads / accessory work in the morning, snatch / C&J in the evening? Although 7pm is late for preworkout.
Early morning is my lift time, but I gotta say, heavy deadlifts right after I wake up makes me feel like I'm going to shit out my spine.
I have a severe back problem, well problems, so I focus on bench a lot. Can't do squats/deads without aggravating it. No way I could do squats in the AM. Would make me explode lol
Gym at 6:00am every weekday; 7:30am sharp on the weekends. Wake up at 5am everyday.
Sounds brutal but I guess now you're used to do it. Just out of curiosity, at what time do you usually go to bed?
10:00pm
Nice schedule. What do you do? Cardio, weights, mix?
1 hr 30 mins work out: 45 mins cardio 45 mins weight lifting. monday - chest tuesday - back wednesday - leg thursday - tricep shoulder biceps friday - leg saturday - upper body split sunday - rest day or light cardio/ cycling/ swimming + 2 hrs of golf at the golf range
After all of the senior guys have left, everyone in my office usually goes around 8-9 PM, pretty regularly. It helps that we have a gym in our building.
Dude it's 85% diet and you're working out wrong if it takes you long.
Also, I have almost everything I need at home or in my yard. I even have a long stretch of astroturf with a push sled. Shit rocks.
A giant deal sled?
Dude are you actually for real with that gym-bro lingo? Smh. There were lots of former D1/varsity college athletes in my analyst class; one dude was an Olympic swimmer. I wouldn't bank on being able to maintain a consistent hour plus gym schedule every week, you'll have to prioritize your fitness (which I encourage you to do) during the little free time you'll have as a 1st year. One of the associates over me when I started told me I'll have time for going out/partying or hitting the gym most weeks, not both
There will be some weeks where you can get regular workouts in, others you wont be able to get a single one in. Try to avoid late night, overly carb heavy processed foods, and opt for grass fed beef/meats and lots of veggies and leafy greens. Maintaining a steady diet of nutrient rich foods will really help your health and mental acuity.
I'm just horsing around with the lingo. Thank you for your response! super helpful.
It's very easy to say you're going to hit the gym at 6 or 7 AM every morning. Easier said than done when you're at the office past midnight the night before. I highly suggest you get a membership to 24 hour fitness. I did this my first year and would frequently hit the gym at midnight or 1 AM. 15 minutes of cardio and 15-30 minutes of free weights will do the trick that late.
Also, refrain from partying too hard on the weekends as you want to ensure your work out are at least 1.5 hours on Saturday and Sunday. Seriously, don't let yourself get fat bro.
Even with 80-90 hour weeks you should be able to get a workout in... unless you start a relationship... which is not advisable.
Why are y'all working out so hard? I thought we work in this industry so we can afford to look like Steve Cohen and still get women?
So you don't die before you get to take that retirement we are supposed to be saving for but never seeming to actually save for...
less years of life = less money required for retirement, doe?
Even in my office where hours are very reasonable most people here are out of shape. Me and one other guy in the office are really the only people that follow any type of diet/workout routine that isn't a fad.
Since you're already in good shape you'll have a good start. The biggest thing is diet (as you probably already know). Even if you only have time to workout 3-4 days/week, keeping your diet in check and alcohol consumption at a reasonable level should help you stay armed and dangerous.
I will add, a few of my friends from HS/college were in great shape up until they graduated and started working. Your body is not the same at 28 as it was at 18 (well, for most people). You'll have to work a lil harder to make it a priority, but if you really want it, staying minced shouldn't be a problem.
I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion.
Underrated
Great routine but when do you find time to return your videotapes?
6:00 AM strength and conditioning 4 days a week: typically mix of some sort of press, clean/jerk/snatch, then pulls or F/B squat. All of this is followed by a conditioning circuit. Altogether takes about 50 minutes. 6 months into this routine and its a night/day difference from standard bro-cycles I used to do.
Sounds decent. Been considering changing to this sort of thing lately. Please could you expand on your routine? Day / night difference in terms of?... muscle mass, strength, general health?
I went at it with the intention to improve myself in areas of core stability, flexibility and functional strength. I will disclose I have a coach who sets these routines daily. I just show up, bitch and complain, then get going.
MWF routines: - General warmup: aerodyne, row, bands for shoulders/hips/glutes activation - Press: either strict, push, or a snatch grip. Focus on upper body stability/strength - Technical lift: cleans, jerks, or snatches with variations between power, hang and full movements (ie. power clean is a clean from the floor w/ no finishing squat vs. a hang clean which is from the knee with a full squat). Total body strength and stability is the focus here. - Heavy stuffs: front squat, back squat, pulls (deadlift). Typically reps in the 2-3 range to build strength in latter parts of technical lifts. Sometimes stretch to 5 reps when coaches are feeling malevolent.
TTh Routine: vary a lot week to week but some common ones are
Every day is concluded with a conditioning circuit as mentioned. Most of the time its some sort of timed aerodyne interval sprint with wall balls (throwing a medball up, squatting down, repeat), kettle bell swings, renegade rows (dumbbell rows from a pushup position). Anywhere from 5-12 minutes of that then we wrap up with a stretch.
Results have included gaining a noticeable amount of muscle mass proportionally on the body as the program has been very balanced to-date. When I began I had just come off a significant running stretch and I was not terribly muscular - now my pants are pretty tight around the legs and once relaxed fitting dress shirts feel more snug (note a simultaneous decrease in body fat). Balance and stability has improved markedly. I was a pretty weak golfer prior to starting this program and now I'm noticing faster swing speeds and engaging big muscle groups like I had not before. Another benefit has been the mind-clearing effect of moving heavy weights again. Something about setting PRs, having goals and benchmarks satisfies an internal drive to be competitive/aggressive in an appropriate setting. Lastly, getting up at the ass-crack of dawn, drinking way more water, and prioritizing workouts during the week vs. drinking/eating has lead to an overall improvement in terms of how I feel throughout the day and about myself. I have nothing but good things to say about this kind of lifting. Plus the coaches and other participants are a joy which makes waking up so damn early that much more tolerable.
One thing that helps for cardio at least (if it works with your hours) is biking to work as part of your commute. Obviously this is more doable with some jobs than others, but the upside is that you combine your commute and workout time. This is better if you have a shower at work, though.
For the bankers here, what types of gym discounts do you get from your company? Just curious Thanks
Know a guy that works out at the end of the day if its not too late (let's say before 1:00). We have a 24/7 gym were he goes for about 40-50 min, calls the cab when he comes back from the shower and takes the cab in sweatpants and a hoodie (nobody cares at 2:00+ AM).
He says it allows him to sleep really well as he is mentally and physically exhausted. He comes into the office 9:30, so I expect he wakes up around 8:30.
I used to do evening workouts. Both BBs I worked at had in-office gyms that were decent. I'd wait for the senior people to clear out around dinner time and get a workout in for an hour or so before ordering my Seamless on weeknights. I'd try to do 2 weeknights and 1 weekend workout.
When I was able to climb, I’d lift twice a week in the “dead equity hours”, ie from 10 to 11. Now because of the finger injury, once a week I do a session with a coach (it’s all rock-climbing specific lifting) and do another 3 sessions on my own. Gym is practically empty at those hours.
Jesus Christ I'm so glad I'm not in banking anymore.
Pours self a whiskey because it's 7:30pm and I got home at 6:00pm, already got my lift in and can still finish an entire movie before my luxurious 11pm bedtime
Diet is everything. You're an athlete so you already know this. If you want to stay shredded like cheddar cheese, you have to do it in the kitchen.
Seamless is going to be your enemy. Our natural human impulse is to max out every single cent of the dollar allowance. Even with healthy options like Muscle Maker Grill or something similar, I realized I'd always order a second entree and wolf it down just because "Hey, I don't want to waste the money." It doesn't matter if it's the healthiest thing, too many calories means you're going to bloat up like a puffer fish when you're trying to stay lean like Mr. Clean.
I didn't have Sweetgreen as an option when I was in the trenches. If it had existed, I'd have been on it like white on rice. The app is clutch. Punch in your order in advance for a specific time, pick it up without waiting in line, and get back to the desk easily.
Life is easier if you're at a bank that has a gym in the building. As long as your group isn't a complete bonerkill zone, you ought to be able to step away for an hour at 8pm during dead time.
Get a 24-hour gym membership. Equinox is great, but they usually close at 11 on weekdays and 9 on weekends. You want the option to go at either 7:30am or 11:30pm once you've figured out whether you're routinely getting caught in the bullpen on late-nighters or not.
If you can lift heavy at least two out of five weekdays and on both weekend days, you're hitting a 4x weekly schedule. Your weekends ought to be the real power days (legs and/or back, depending on whether you split or stack squats and dead on the same day) because you get to sleep in and are thus best rested.
I was at different banks as a summer and an analyst, so I had different schedules at each place. I lifted 4-5x weekly all the way through. As a summer I did it at nights and on weekends (had to grind chasing the offer). As an analyst I stepped out in the early evening twice a week, usually did Friday mornings (knowing I wouldn't want to be in the gym that night), and hit both weekend days.
I got made fun of as a summer, but then at the group outing when I got into the pool and played volleyball at the MD's Hamptons house, everyone was mirin'. Same thing as an analyst when we played shirts vs. skins football on the country club lawn in front of the whole group.
In short, make sure you pay for a 24-hour gym even if you have one in your office building. Be religious about getting it in at least twice during the week. Use the weekends for your two-hour power sessions on the dominant muscle groups.
In the name of our lord Brodin, wheymen.
epic ahahaah thanks!
I would NOT have thought APAE was such a gym bro reading all of his super eloquent and informative posts. Boss. Banana heading your way (but don't eat it because keto diet is the way to go).
Didn't read the whole thread, but if you don't have the time and want a great workout....Try P90X3 (it's a 30 minute version) About 15 different workouts so you get bored. Incredible total body, strength and cardio. It or any Hiit type workout )high intensity interval training) will do.
Great for your core too.
Hit the 'Nox usually every morning before work, if not in the AM then i'll go around 3-4 when it's pretty empty. Generally need 5-6 hrs of sleep in order to be functional in the gym, which has worked nicely with my 2nd year schedule.
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