Goal: Lateral to REIB from Valuations

If I missed a related post already please drop a link.. I'm trying to break into REIB as a lateral (analyst or associate) coming from real estate valuations within a financial advisory institution (think IB or Big 4). We value debt, equity and properties usually at a portfolio level for some top-tier clients. From time to time we get fairly complex assigns like participating construction loans with portfolio roll-ups and as a result, I think my technicals are solid. The problem is our work just isn't driving deals (there is no sourcing, investment thesis, negotiation, or deal structuring). I have a lead for a junior position on a strong capital markets team at one of the big global brokerages which could get me closer to the transaction. Three questions here: (1) Is the capital markets position an unnecessary additional step on my track to REIB? (2) Is REIB realistic? I'm talking specifically about the REIB that does pure entity level M&A and/or restructuring (3) Any suggestions for appealing to REIB given my background? Consider that I have a real estate masters degree from an ivy.

 

REIB or IB in general is realistic - I’ve seen it done from this exact role. The thing is you’re not going to be at a top tier IB. Truist, Mizuho, Keybank, Piper Sandler, etc are the types of banks you should be targeting. When these banks get laterals it’s usually from no-name boutiques or non-IB analysts in solid roles (you).

Keep in mind there aren’t that many seats in REIB, so it may never happen just because the timing isn’t right. You also may have to move to some random city you don’t want to go to. REIB teams are located all over rather than exclusively in NYC (Trust - Atlanta, Keybank - Boston, Piper Sandler - NYC, Stifel - St. Louis, Jefferies - Charlotte / NYC, etc).

 
Most Helpful

So, I'll give my opinion to your questions. Just note, I am now over a decade from any personal direct attempts at trying to get hired by anything like REIB, so as to current trends and hiring practices that may have shifted, take notes from those more recent!

To your questions..

1. I am not sure a broker position will make you many more appealing to REIB (I severely doubt it for anything like the BB firms), since REIB is just the fancier "sellside", not sure they will look any more favorably to those out of a CBRE/JLL type place, honestly many be a downgrade from what you are doing (that is my honest suspicion) since it is likely "lower tier" analytical work. I also can't think of anyone I know personally doing this jump (unless it was via grad school as impetus), but it may occur, but generally it flows opposite REIB --> brokerage (top tier firms will recruit from BB IB for sure). 

2. To be honest, not sure if "realistic" or not... but I really doubt "impossible". Valuation skills are key to large scale transactions (like M&A), and getting direct hired to a real estate desk seems possible if you can convince the MD that your skills are unique/additive. This is one of those situations where going in higher (like as associate or sr. analyst) may be easier than trying to get entry level analyst, but need to network have some direct connections to make your pitch. The issue is that IB in general (and thus the real estate desks as a result), tend to hire direct from college then promote up, to my knowledge they don't do tons of "experienced" hiring (besides laterals from competitors as needed). It can happen, but the MD/desk really needs to drive it. You could apply to the general entry level pool, but that is really difficult for everyone regardless, but no harm in trying if you would take such a role (I assume they mostly hire from SA programs, but maybe still have open applications, especially if a real estate desk wants someone with legit re knowledge/background, in that case you would fit). As above poster said, probably easier at lower-tier and boutique banks than BB.

3. REIB transactions are heavily reliant on valuation models and valuation exercises, so the more you can assert/prove you "know" how to do the job the better. I really think you are better off "aiming high" for more experienced role where they need/want your background than fighting for open entry level where they frankly don't care (just want the smartest hardest working people willing to work 120 hrs a week and not complain..... experienced hires are not the best fit for this lol). 

Final note.... are you really fixated on REIB for a long-term career? Or are you seeing this as part of some "path" to something else. I only ask because you reference the brokerage role as a "step", that may be just as fulfilling (and even well paid) career than working for a bank. Plus, all the big brokerages have somewhat legit REIB platforms internally that you could attempt to join (not sure they should be at all classed with the big BB type platforms, but they do compete/are legit in many respects). Personally, I'd think a better career in those shops (if on legit, top tier desk) than in general I-banking (which seems shitty IMHO). You may feel different, its totally personal I'd say!

 

Consequatur et unde quo voluptatum accusantium. Eaque ratione deleniti expedita perspiciatis et. Doloribus sint rerum voluptatem. Quas qui accusamus vero velit.

Voluptatem accusantium assumenda et et omnis eum. Corrupti quibusdam doloribus molestiae et. Dolorem non tenetur quasi commodi consequatur. Vitae sint eius placeat architecto eum in.

Magnam quo magni quas exercitationem deserunt. Vel fugit aperiam quis velit incidunt eligendi ullam officiis. Fuga autem adipisci et et ea fugit qui. Voluptatem nihil ut consequuntur sed. Nesciunt quas similique quaerat totam vitae repellendus. Ullam ut omnis vel qui explicabo occaecati minima. Maxime ab fugit et ipsa rem. Expedita ut adipisci et in.

Accusamus aut quisquam beatae accusamus ipsum at maiores. Expedita eveniet delectus est est eius impedit ea.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (88) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (67) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
4
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
5
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
9
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
10
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”