Georgetown MSF Accepts Everyone
Let me first say this is in no way directed at the current and previous cohorts of the MSF program. Rather the program itself. Everyone I met was extremely nice, motivated to better themselves, seem like great future colleagues/friends, and have unique backgrounds.
I can confirm this program is 100% a cash cow for the university and does not have a selective admissions process. At minimum I do believe the school chooses people who can at least maintain their post-grad numbers ( Salary average, % increase in pay , employment rate after X amount of time, etc.). But are they picking the absolute best people? I don't think so. If they did this would I make the cut ? Maybe.. maybe not. But that doesn't matter. Since the program is hybrid/ mostly online there is no good reason to not limit the size of each cohort. This platform allows them to make more money.
Things I have noticed so far:
1.The class size keeps getting bigger and bigger each year.
2. Everyone I spoke too seemed to have the same experience with admissions: They all felt it was way too easy to get into and they felt recruited/heavily advised to apply. Everyone practically walked in from their perspective.
3. At orientation the founding MSF Director broadly said " some schools use their undergraduate prestige and create programs to make a bunch of money... not us" that's when I knew this program was just that.
4. Many people said they did not have to submit a GRE score until after being accepted. Usually, you would want to see the score to see ones capabilities but this doesn't seem to be the case here.
5. I can't find one person online/ in-person saying they have personally been rejected or that someone else they know was rejected.
6. There is no total applicant number to acceptance information anywhere to be found.
Too tired to think of anything else but if theres any questions let me know.....
Bro all MA, MPH, MSF or whatever programs are cash cows for universities lol. Harvard, Columbia, the ivies, rest of top 20s or whatever all use their undergrad/MD/MBA/JD prestige to create cash cow masters programs
Agreed. I thought I would just write on it because there is not much information on the GTOWN MSF program in the forums.
Few points to mention:
1. If you have decent stats, they want you there for a) their profile (like all schools) and b) your money (like all schools).
2. The program is set up so that if you come from a top 30 program -- you have a good shot of getting into a top firm (EB/MM shop/even BB and PE/VC). MBB consulting firms also recruit from there. But if you're outside of that scope, although you likely won't be in range for a top firm, you can still land a gig at a no name IB shop/PE shop, which isn't bad at all. And if your undergrad is complete non-target and you just aren't super impressive, you'll likely only land a random gig at like Fidelity. But a pay bump is a pay bump.
And pretty much everyone who wants to get into IB or consulting gets in.
3. Very mixed cohort. You have some people who are late 20's and doing a career pivot from law or medicine to IB/some people in PE already who want to further credential themselves without leaving the workforce/some Ivy undergrads/some complete non-target undergrads. Like anything else in life, depends on your profile and how you do in the program/networking with people. Overall, it's a solid program.
Hope this helps add some context. Graduated a few years ago, went into PE, and am now in a top 3 MBA program (H/S/W).
Curious about point 2, where would UMD + no name IB internship land on that scale? EB/MM, no name IB/PE or Fidelity?
All comes down to how good (GPA/technicals/personality/networking) your are within your "tier". Have met a few non targets with no name IB internships land roles at "lower ranked" BBs/EBs -- but is more uncommon. If your stats are non-target + no name IB internship, I would just shoot for MM/no name in IB/PE. Looking at the big picture, you should be content that you have a solid paying job that will provide a good skillset + learning opportunities
Did you really do all this research and take the effort to post this about this school, specifically, without coming to the realization that Columbia and NYU, for a fact, are doing the exact same thing? Why do you think they, specifically, refuse to release admission statistics? Because they usually admit literally everyone who applies...
Haha easy there lil guy...not an admissions officer, sharing my nuanced perspective from being in the program. Key takeaways: mixed cohort (yes, with some people who I thought were unimpressive) -- but overall think its solid since the good candidates get solid opps and the less impressive ones end up with something better than before. This is what I saw among my classmates. Also -- strange how you're so worked up about this lmao. Take your little dick energy somewhere else
I had the exact same thought while I was in there. I am trying to pivot into IB (not anything crazy even regional banks will make me happy) and definitely felt a little off while I was at orientation. I have a pretty unimpressive undergrad school, I figured I got in because I had a really high GRE score (took it before I knew which program I wanted to go to), but I am thinking I may not have needed that high score to get in.
I do think it is ultimately gonna come down to what we make of it and maintaining reasonable expectations for the outcome. I am already considering going straight into an MBA after, if need be.
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