Target School Prestige in Hong Kong
What schools from the US or UK are most prestigious in Hong Kong and Singapore for IB?
Ivies, MIT, UChicago, Duke > Cambridge Oxford LSE
UVA, UMich, NYU Stern = Imperial?
What about Emory, washu, Vanderbilt and the LACs?
Are bigger schools with better reputation in Asia better for recruiting like UC Berkeley and UCLA?
Ivies + MIT, Stanford > Oxbridge/LSE > UChicago/Duke/Berkeley/NYU Stern/UMich = Imperial/UCL > UCLA/Emory/WashU/Vanderbilt > Warwick
Warwick is better than ucla and Emory and on par with ucl. Ucl doesn’t even have a business school.
Maybe for finance recruiting, but OP asked about prestige in general
Duke and UChicago are not on the same tier as say Berkeley. They should be at least with the lower Ivies like Cornell, Brown and Dartmouth and >= Oxbridge LSE. UCL and Warwick should be compared to UNC KF and maybe BC Carroll.
obviously you get things wrong in terms of the situation in Asia. UK schools like oxbridge and LSE you mentioned may get higher reputation than lower ivies like Dartmouth and brown, though the later ones is more difficult to get into as a Chinese international applicant. It sounds shit, but true as it is. I believe that the prestige of US schools works well in us but not outside North America. It's sad that those lower ivies may even not be comparable with UCL or Warwick. Sad for a US college oriented applicant.
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How would you rank prestige within the ivies? Obviously H no. 1, but would be curious where Dartmouth, Brown land.
Just personal opinion
Harvard Yale Princeton Columbia Penn Dartmouth Brown Cornell
This (and the rest of the thread tbh) is heavily US focused. You should be looking through international rankings like the ARWU, QS, and Time Higher Education rankings. USNews is a poor base to use when looking at prestige in HK because they haven't heard of schools like Emory, WashU, Vanderbilt, and the LACs.
While this might not make sense to an American, an Ivy ranking with a focus on perception in HK would look something like:
Harvard / Princeton / Columbia / Yale / Cornell / Penn / Brown / Dartmouth (this is off the top of my head, parents are from HK)
Oxbrige are comparable to top ivies and on par with HYPSM
Taking Peking and HK top 3 unis out, HK has a very strong preference for US unis.
I interned at 1 BB and worked at another for 2 years. There are way more HK/China students studying Oxbridge + LSE than stern/ivies+S+MIT combined but probably way more stern kids getting into HK IB than oxbridge + LSE combined.
Each BB may take 2-3 oxbridge/lse kids combined on average each year but there are like several hundreds of such kids graduating from their undergrad a year.
Believe there are way more UK uni kids in SG but chances for non-Singapore high school educated kids are slim.
"way more stern kids getting into HK IB than oxbridge + LSE combined."
A simple quick LinkedIn search will tell you that this is far from the fact.
A simple linkdein search would tell you most from oxbridge / lse purchased their masters there and they are not undergrad students.
Other school I would add here is Georgetown. Not an ivy. Obviously less competitive than all ivies besides maybe Cornell. But def prestigious internationally
Those saying Ivies as a group are better or equal to Oxbridge are very, very wrong. Harvard, Princeton, and Wharton yes. None of the others. Yale isn't as well known in HK but is still relatively prestigious, as is Columbia (and Cornell to a lesser extent for engineering does have a decent rep). But have most people heard of Dartmouth or Brown? No, no chance. Oxbridge (and even LSE and Imperial) have far better name recognition in East Asia. Similarly, Berkeley has a much better reputation out of the US than in it. Broadly speaking, for undergrad:
Harvard/MIT
Oxford, Cambridge, Stanford, Princeton, Wharton
Yale, Columbia, Chicago, Imperial, LSE, Berkeley, possibly Stern and Cornell (+ Peking and Tsinghua if you're including Chinese unis)
UCL, non-Wharton UPenn, Georgetown, Duke, UCLA, Brown, Dartmouth
Most other schools (including say Michigan or Warwick) aren't really known. Outside of finance, CalTech - and to a lesser extent CMU and Hopkins - are quite prestigious due to the value East Asian families place on STEM.
Student quality or preference wise, imo Oxbridge is more similar, if not lower, to Yale/Columbia/Penn on your scale. Princeton is not as well known in Asia-Pacific as it is in the US. The international students from Asia (mostly from China and a few other places) I talked to don't see Oxbridge on the same level as most of the ivies because Oxford/Cambridge admit roughly the same or more number of students of the 7 ivies (minus Cornell) combined (in mainland China, for instance) so they aren't seen as selective by the very top students who still aspire to go to a top ivy or Stanford/MIT. Many of them turned down Oxbridge to come to the US and the ones who attend the Ivies are usually on the wealthier and more socially prominent end (even Cornell, yes), too. The Oxbridge brand is still appealing but is slowly being eroded by the Ivies.
Student quality wise I'd agree - but from a prestige perspective, only Harvard/MIT are really above Oxbridge in Asia.
You have NO CLUE what you are talking about bud. Princeton is better than Yale internationally? Give me a fkn break.
Congrats on NYU/Berkeley. NYU is a joke of a school for all the rich kids who got rejected from the ivies
Imperial and UCL have very recent business schools. In these subjects, they consequently hold less prestige (seen in all rankings). However, they are very strong in other subjects such as STEM.
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