Non-Target to Dream Restructuring Shop
I wanted to give a mountain of thanks to everyone on this forum. I'm currently a rising junior at a non-target school with a little bit of representation at some specific BBs, but not a single alumni in restructuring.
The people on this forum helped me prepare for my interviews, understand the industry, and get a 2021 SA offer for my absolute number one choice restructuring firm. There aren't any alumni that I could reach out to to understand the industry, but everyone's insight made up a ton of ground that I would have been lacking otherwise.
I've been putting most of my spare time since the end of freshman year towards preparing myself for the process. It was disheartening at times, getting close to a 5% response rate for my emails, going without proper sleep for months trying to make myself the best candidate that I could, and not knowing if all of my work would be for nothing.
Thanks to one amazing person who responded to my email and ended up seeing how much effort I put in and their faith in me, I was able to get a first round. I was beside myself and realized that even if I didn't get the offer, it was the most encouraging feeling to even have been considered.
I went through the process fully and ended up getting the offer for a top-tier restructuring group (PJT/LAZ/HL/EVR), and it's been the most inspiring and worthwhile experience of my life. I'm going to be the first person in my immediate family to have graduated from college, and I'm overjoyed that I overcame both that and being from a non-target school to have the opportunity to not only do something that I enjoy, but will make sure that I can support myself and give back to my family.
Thanks again guys, stay awesome.
EDIT: Thank you to everyone who commented for the kind words!
As requested, here's a bit of insight into what I did that helped me prepare:
1 ) Understanding Credit:
Getting a solid foundation in vanilla credit analysis is an absolute must. How yields are determined, what price reflects, and understanding how to pinpoint and understand risks rather than drivers. Understand the implications and importance of leverage, coverage, loan-to-value/the equity cushion, liquidity, and the ability to generate liquidity.
2 ) Learning about the Restructuring/Bankruptcy Process:
Most people say Moyer's "Distressed Debt Investing" is a must-read, but I think that the only time that it's useful is if you don't have a lot of time before recruiting starts. It's a great book that does a great job putting everything in plain English, but it's pretty surface-level.
Reading "The Art of Distressed M&A" is a much, much better choice in my opinion. It's incredibly thorough and the chapters are very well organized. In its own words, "[The book] is organized in a question-and-answer format, moving from general to specific questions in each topic area. What is your burning question of the moment? It may be as basic as “What is Chapter 11 bankruptcy?” or “Why do companies fail?” or as arcane as “What is a bankruptcy remote entity?” Whatever you want to know about distressed mergers and acquisitions, you are likely to find the answers here—or at least a useful reference.. A drawback is that it's more of a practitioner's guide, so it's REMARKABLY dry and there's a lot of information that is FAR beyond any interviewer's wildest expectations.
Houlihan's "Buying and Selling the Distressed Company" is a great read, and reading it is sort of comparable to following a bankruptcy.
3 ) Showing Interest
3a) Following Bankruptcies
Whereas #1,2 help a ton, following bankruptcies is the number one way that you can differentiate yourself and your understanding. I've heard people say that reading articles about old high-profile bankruptcies (Sears, Enron, and pretty much anything from '08) is the best way to show interest, but I completely disagree with the idea that it's the best way or even a good use of time.
Following ongoing bankruptcies where one of the parties is advised by the place you're interviewing is a great way to show interest (the chance the person you're talking about it with will know about it too is greatly increased if the bank advises the debtor or the fulcrum security). For high-profile bankruptcies like the huge retail and oil companies going bankrupt now, there'll usually be a few articles on what's going on in the process online - they all say the same thing and are absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, useless.
3b) Following Bankruptcies
To really show that you're interested enough to follow a bankruptcy and have the capacity to understand it is to READ THE DOCKET. The docket is the list of all court filings in the bankruptcy and has 100% of the public information. The documents in the docket are 90% administrative/content-less stuff that's just required by the court, but the other 10% (motions, objections, statements in support of . . ., etc.) is all useful information that shows what's going on and its reasoning. (I didn't explain that perfectly, but hopefully you get the gist)
What can make you really stand out is following a large but front-page-worthy bankruptcy. There'll be little news written on it, so knowing the ins and outs of what's happened is worth more.
A bankruptcy's docket can be found by googling the company's name and then the word docket. The largest cases will have their dockets on sites like Prime Clerk, Epiq11, KCCLLC, or Stretto. The only sites that have a non-frustrating layout are Prime Clerk and KCCLLC,
congrats. hard work pays off! now go celebrate a little
It may be helpful for aspiring RX analysts and associates if you share some of the technical materials and questions studied/encountered during your prep and interview processes. Congratulations!
Giving back is absolutely on the agenda! It's the least I could do after all of the help I got from everyone here.
This would definitely be appreciated as a freshman who's in a really similar situation / coming from a similar background -- what kind of interview prep did you find most helpful for rx recruiting in particular?
So happy for you! Cream always rises to the top, if you don't mind could you post what resources you used for RX and any advice that you would recommend for a non target student involving recruiting and any other tips.
Wow, amazing. Congrats!
Def if you feel comfortable please let others know what you did to prep for Rx, and what kind of technical questions you got - there's not as much info on that and will be helpful to other students.
Good stuff man! Those roles are really legit and, in your case, timing is fucking impeccable. You're gonna have a wild summer, learn more than you have in all of college combined and, if you keep up the hard work/get a little luck, earn a return offer for FT; then the world is your goddamn oyster, super flexible exit opps etc/etc...
Make sure to take some time to celebrate your accomplishment with friends and family; life is way too short not to reflect on what you've done at those "seminal" moments along the way. Good luck this summer, given the literal mountain of shit that one has to climb to get into that echelon of high-finance from where you'd started, I'm confident you'll crush it; takes big stones to do what you did.
Echoing what the others have said, if you have the time and/or folks ask, make a point of paying it forward; sounds like you were already pretty well set on prioritizing some good career karma before anyone said anything anyways and, in my experience, the guys who had to scratch, claw and fight their way in tend to have their heads on straight by virtue of their life experiences. Again, really awesome shit, now go celebrate and then go get that bread!
No kidding about timing! What a way to make the RX skillset so much more valuable.
Success stories like yours are part of what makes life worth living. congrats on your success!
just don't turn into a psycho like the rest of us
congrats!
PM if you need any help - always happy to help someone in industry (who may also be working in my old group!)
I got the book The Art of Distressed M&A on your recommendation - it is excellent. Even if someone is not in Rx, sometimes bankruptcy/restructuring/workout crosses your desk. Very useful & informative.
Thanks much for the recommend
Congrats on your offer! Could you please share which resources you used to understand credit?
Thanks so much for this! I have gone through one CH 11 docket but now how do I talk about it in an interview? I would assume list off the major creditors, their types of debt, and what the resolution was (ie: debt converted to equity), but what else should I be talking about?
Putting a bookmark here for restructuring
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