Best way to move to NYC, LDN from Tokyo
Hi, started a few months ago as an agency/execution sales trader at a big BB in Tokyo (think GS, MS, JPM type).
My main goal is moving to a global financial center (ideally NYC) from Tokyo, and I want to know the best path to get there.
I am strongly considering an internal lateral transfer, but I am also open to going to a top MBA and re-recruiting for NYC associate roles. For context, I am not a US citizen, so visa sponsorship is a factor.
I’d love insight specifically on:
- Internal transfer feasibility: How realistic is an internal lateral from Tokyo to NYC in agency execution / electronic sales trading? How common are permanent transfers vs. short-term rotational stints, and what does the timeline usually look like?
- The MBA route: Given that structured post-MBA associate recruiting is largely focused on the primary side (IB/Cap Markets) and far rarer for S&T, does an MBA make sense if my goal is staying in markets/sales trading in the US, especially as an international candidate needing visa sponsorship?
- Alternative paths: Are there other angles (e.g., cross-border desk coverage, lateraling externally to another shop in NYC, or targeting London first) that work better?
Thanks
To move from Tokyo to NYC or London in your role as an agency/execution sales trader, here’s what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:
1. Internal Transfer Feasibility
2. The MBA Route
3. Alternative Paths
4. Key Recommendations
By focusing on internal transfers while keeping the MBA and alternative paths as backup options, you can maximize your chances of landing in NYC or London.
Sources: Transitioning from Tech Sales to IB, Consulting Exit Opps for Introverts, Why You Should Leave NYC After Your Analyst Stint, Non-target average student declined BB trading ops offer, now having some second thoughts, What is life like in an IB satellite office?
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How come you want to leave Tokyo?
There's more going on in nyc/ldn and english is my first language so would rather be in an english-first market
I see HK/Tokyo to London a reasonable amount in London
Normally internal transfer yeah
Internal transfer with L1 visa is the only viable way in this regime. MBA is totally useless for S&T, and getting a job as international student is hard as fxxk.
Funnily marrying US citizen would be the most plausible way to move to NYC lol. I heard LDN is more lenient on internal transfer though. I heard L1 is also getting harder and harder.
All three of the BBs you mentioned tend to have pretty solid rotation pathways between offices, especially if you speak the local language.
You have a leg up in the UK if you speak a second European language, but plenty of folks did very well without ever speaking one.
Can't speak to the US pathway from personal experience, but, from what I hear, the current administration is certainly making it more challenging than it was in the past from a paperwork standpoint.
Have you asked HR whether the bank offers permanent transfers to NYC? An L-1 might be worth looking into, depending on your role and how long you've been with the company. I spoke with Davis & Associates during my own immigration process, and it helped me get a clearer picture of the requirements. Might be worth getting the visa side figured out before deciding whether an MBA is necessary.
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