33% out to taxes. HELP.

So I jsut got my first FT paycheck. Basically I had my budget all set up and was expecting around a 23-24% tax rate (salary is 60k). I currently have to work in NJ but live in manhattan so I get double taxed on the state income taxes.

Assuming I'm not going to go to hoboken or jersey, whats the best way to get some money back on taxes so I can afford say a 2000/month apartment. My firm doesn't offer a 401k or anything like that. I'm trying to save a bit, and I have a good idea that my bonus will be at least 25-30k (conservative). I figured lots of you guys have been through this, so just looking for some advice.

 
WalMartShopper:
I don't think you can get double taxed at the state level, won't one count the other's as a credit against theirs??
You don't get double taxed at the state level. Your job will take state and local taxes out of your paycheck depending on where it is located and then you shouldn't have to pay on NY state taxes.
 
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SDeep24:
I've read that it is well known to pay double taxes in my situation but that on the return you get some sort of credit, however on my paycheck I don't. I am going to change my w4 to 1 instead of 0, how much extra do you think that will give me? Should I do more? I literally know nothing about taxes. Appreciate the help from everyone.

You are not being "double taxed". If you live in NYC and work in NJ this is the way it works:

1) NJ takes their income tax 2) NY takes the difference of the NY vs. NJ state tax 3) You still pay city tax

Basically you end up paying the higher tax. Since NJ has a lower state tax you still owe NY taxes after you finish off paying the entire NJ amount. If you look at your pay stub you will notice that the NY state tax is pretty low, basically the difference between the NY and NJ state tax.

 
RagnarDanneskjold:
Most people I know don't list NYC as their permanent residence. 6% city tax is BS. Take what you want from that.

I pay 4% to live in shit-adelphia. 6% to live in NYC is a rip off, but at least the city is worth while.

But yeah, don't list NYC as your residence.

 
SDeep24:
Yeah, but I dont know where else i would list, as my only other permanent residence is in new england.
List your parents house as your permanent address for tax purposes. It will save you a ton of money and will be fine for now.
 

Read over your W4 and take the exact deductions that you are allowed. The form asks a series of questions to determine how many deductions you get. I think you get at least 1 deduction by having a pulse. 1 vs 0 will make a noticeable impact on your take home pay. Some people take 0 deductions because it helps them save money. When they file their tax returns for the year they usually get back a large chunk of change. Others will claim as many deductions as they can write down to improve their monthly/weekly cash flow. While I'm not a tax expert I believe both are, strictly speaking, not completely legal.

So in sum, just read over your W4 and take the deductions you are allowed.

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Dude, you're going to have to change something. What is 60k per month after taxes? ~3k - maybe slightly higher (before you put anything away for your future) you're going to drop $2k on an apartment?

I know you expect a good bonus, but seriously - wait until you get one or two.

For now - either learn to deal with the roomates gf or find another cheap place to split with someone you can stand. It's going to suck to use most of your bonus (which will be taxed to hell) to pay off credit cards because you can't afford your apartment.

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I wouldn't call having at least 1200/month to spend as being BROKE. It's not ideal, but its not like poverty. I've lived in manhattan for 2 years now and I know how to budget, but yes, it does suck to spend more on an apt due to location. I work 50-60 hours a week though, so its important for me to enjoy my home, since I'll be there a lot more than IBD guys.

 

I am confused. You come into the thread asking for advice, the advice was counter to what you want and now you are trying to get people to agree with your already predetermined decision?

just go get an apt for 2K. You have no debt and a bonus that should be nice. You just won't have much if any of a safety net.

Why ask for advice when you have no interest in taking it?

 
ANT:
I am confused. You come into the thread asking for advice, the advice was counter to what you want and now you are trying to get people to agree with your already predetermined decision?

just go get an apt for 2K. You have no debt and a bonus that should be nice. You just won't have much if any of a safety net.

Why ask for advice when you have no interest in taking it?

This is probably my biggest pet peeve. Asking a question when they already have been convinced of an answer.

 

Im guessing that this is the first time the kid has lived on his own. 3500 take home, 2000 on rent and still have 1200 left over . . . right. Dude, there's like a ton of other expenses that come into play that you haven't even considered.

60K is nowhere near enough money to afford a 2000 nut for housing. If I was at 60K, I would want my housing to be well below 1K, 800-ish would be ideal. Yeah, that might mean roommates and/or a not-so-nice place but that's what you can afford right now. Your housing should never be more than 25% of your budget. Period.

 

It's okay, you didn't read my post GJ, I found a place for well under 2000, have been living in NYC for 2.5 years now, and have been budgeting fine. 800ish on rent living in NYC would be great, but its not realistic unless I want to live far from my office, or in the ghetto somewhere in JC, have you ever lived there? Vontropnats, that is awesome. More power to you dude.

 

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