5% for 30 Periods = 10% for 15 Periods?

So I'm trying to work my way through a finance textbook through self study, and I can't figure out why a 5% interest rate for 30 periods is different than a 10% interest rates for 15 periods? I'm not talking about annuities here, but rather how much I would value $1 in the future (i.e. the present value of a future dollar). I'm calculating the price of a bond, and I'm trying to calculate the "present value of the principal payment." The bond matures in 15 years with a required rate of return of 10% annually. The book uses a discount factor based on 30 periods and 5%. Intuitively it seems to me, one should be able to use a discount factor based on 15 periods and 10% and arrive at the same value. However, when I try calculating it this way, I get a different price. Why is my intuition incorrect?

 

Would you rather get $5 on June 30 and $5 on December 31 of every year or would you rather get $10 on December 31? If you are a savvy investor, the answer is that you would rather get $5 semi-annually than $10 annually because you get re-invest the $5 you get every year on June 30 and earn a return such that it is worth more than $5 come December 31 (such that $5 June 30 and $5 December 31 is worth more than $10 December 31). Therefore, if the bond pays a 5% coupon semi-annually (15 periods) you will get a different (re: higher) value for the bond than if it pays a 10% coupons annually (30 periods).

 
MonkeyToBe88:
Therefore, if the bond pays a 5% coupon semi-annually (15 periods) you will get a different (re: higher) value for the bond than if it pays a 10% coupons annually (30 periods).

I'm not talking about the annuity portion of the bond, I'm only talking about the principal payment at maturity.

MonkeyToBe88:
Would you rather get $5 on June 30 and $5 on December 31 of every year or would you rather get $10 on December 31?

Aren't we talking about getting the face value of a bond at maturity, so in both cases wouldn't we be talking about getting $X 15 years from now? In which case, we ask, if I require a rate of return of 10% annually, how much am I willing to pay for the $X now? Why does it matter how we split up the periods between now and 15 years? We could think of it as one period, 15 period, 30 period, a period per day, etc (obviously we would have to adjust the required rate of return to account for the units, i.e., days, months, a half a year, a year, etc).

 
MonkeyToBe88:
Would you rather get $5 on June 30 and $5 on December 31 of every year or would you rather get $10 on December 31? If you are a savvy investor, the answer is that you would rather get $5 semi-annually than $10 annually because you get re-invest the $5 you get every year on June 30 and earn a return such that it is worth more than $5 come December 31 (such that $5 June 30 and $5 December 31 is worth more than $10 December 31). Therefore, if the bond pays a 5% coupon semi-annually (15 periods) you will get a different (re: higher) value for the bond than if it pays a 10% coupons annually (30 periods).

Also, 5% per semester means less price volatility (A former PM at a BB told me why, but i forgot)

 

if you break something into smaller periods and apply the same interest rate adjusted for the time split you still have to take into account compounding. x1.1 does not equal x1.05*1.05

 
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Paper:
if you break something into smaller periods and apply the same interest rate adjusted for the time split you still have to take into account compounding. x1.1 does not equal x1.05*1.05

That makes sense. My next question is, how do we know using 30 periods at 5% is the correct discount factor for the lump sum payment of the bond in question? Is it just because the bond pays an annuity for 30 periods, and there is a convention to keep the periods constant in both calculations (by both calculations, I mean the annuity part and the lump sum part)?

Paper:
x1.1 does not equal x1.05*1.05

Does the book make a mistake then (or maybe just use an estimation without explicitly mentioning it)? Because the book says 10% required rate of return for 15 years, and then they just say that is the same as 5% required rate of return for 30 6-month periods.

 

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