Breaking into REPE/development from appraisal

Wondering what exit opps would be available with 1-2 years in appraisal with an MSF w/ RE focus from a decent university would land me? Assume that the appraisal gig would have good flow with good properties (MF, office, retail). Would REPE and development be in the question or would I need to do a stint in DSF or IS before going the REPE/dev route? I'm highly considering going the appraisal route to learn the industry while I complete a masters program. Thanks for the input!

edit - Still curious about appraisal, but what about an analyst position on a good tenant/landlord rep team with a top brokerage firm? Would that be better experience?

 

I'm looking at similar options out of undergrad. From what I've gathered it seems to me the plan is to get your foot in the door doing appraisal, tenant/landlord, investment sales, cap mkts, whatever for 2-5 years then look at graduate schools. Seem's you're ahead and currently enrolled in a MSF program? I'd suggest at this point to try and make as many connections as as you can from the program. From there you can look in development by reaching out to said contacts, using the alumni from the program, etc. I think it's more about tailoring your experience at wherever you start, along with your graduate education to land a place at a shop. What MSF program is it?

 

If possible would you consider taking a few years after undergrad to work and take the GMAT, apply to top 20, top 10 programs for MBA. Have you considered that? Because for me, I want to be in development and I was told to try and get a top MSRED program. I also wanted to be in NYC, but if you want to be in a big city competing for jobs think about what these kids are applying with. You have all the ivy's MBA/MSRED programs with the same if not more work experience. Just a thought, I don't know about the University of Houston program and I'm not saying it's bad, but in terms of competition unless you have a family member that works somewhere or another close connection I think it's going to be hard. I was originally going to forgo grad school, but after talking to multiple developers and two people working in the industry 3/4 have a grad degree and the 1/4 is working at a company his family started.

 

I don't know anything about the Texas market so if that seem's like it isn't necessary than it might not be. Ok then do that, NYC I would assume is a lot different than Texas. Good luck with that. Where are you looking right now in terms of places for those jobs (appraisal, investment sales, etc).

 
Most Helpful
CodyParkey:
Nah personally I wouldn't. My opinion could change but from my research that does not seem necessary for the Texas market. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, but I think but what matters most is a combination of good work experience and networking, plus the MSF from UH would help. I don't think a top 20 MSRED/MBA is completely necessary (in my case I'd only consider getting in from UT/A&M). But you're looking to work in NYC and it's probably a lot different than Texas. Most of the bios I've read from people in development/repe firms out here are from UT/A&M and a lot of them only have their bachelors.

A top MBA wouldn't hurt you (Hines would certainly appreciate it) but I agree that it isn't necessary

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

If you would, I'd suggest considering A&M's MRE program. It's 1.5 years long, with an internship during the summer. You would learn about the whole enchilada of real estate and gain exposure to everything from Development, banking, appraisal, etc. Plus the key benefit is the real estate network you gain access to, it is very strong, especially in Texas. We have a yearly conference in Texas and thats popular. We even have an retired professor who gets emails from former grads all around the various RE industries and passes them to everyone. All the job insights I found have been from that network.

 

Cody, if you want to do real estate in Houston, go do A&Ms MSRE. One of the best real estate programs in Texas. They place in top firms across the state, the program is relatively easy to get into, and you’re close to Houston. The program is 18 months with an internship so you’ll have an opportunity to get some better [than appraisal] experience prior to graduation and would most likely be able to get a Development or PE job out of the gate if you get a decent internship, and network while in school. The A&M re alumni network is very strong in Texas.

 

Very similar background. MSF from private university in the Dallas area (take a wild guess) and currently working for a top 5 RE firm in Dallas (think JLL, CB, Cushman and their little brothers) in their valuations group. I spent 2 years interning and working for a different valuations shop in a different industry before I knew I wanted to do real estate. I took this job understanding that I wouldn't necessarily be doing it for life (like yourself), but because I knew that I could touch and understand every single piece of real estate out there. I did not know what product type I wanted to do, and still don't, this will change for everyone over time. My subjective opinion is that this is a fine route, as long as you can be versatile and ready to pivot at a moment's notice. It is likely that you will have to start networking for job #2 on day 1 of job #1 to grant yourself this type of flexibility.

Other posts are 100% correct in their assertion that Texas real estate operates much differently than say RE in New York or even LA/San Fran. A lot of folks would value a very intense analyst program, or even a last name, over an MBA. My short advice would be to network with as many people as humanly possible. In the "job hunt" phase I would have coffee/lunch/beer with at least 2 people per day regardless of hierarchy and something will pop. I would say that most folks in Dallas/Houston have to meet with at least 35 people to get their foot in the door, 50 to have a serious interview, and 75-100 to get a job. I know guys from 2009 where these numbers are closer to double or triple.

Also, go ahead and buy yourself a bulk package of stationary and block off 30 minutes per day to write thank you notes for every interview/meeting you have - this goes further than any GPA or accreditation.

**I speak in hyperbole a reason, in Texas it doesn't matter how "smart" you are on paper but if you're gritty and unashamed enough to get your foot in the door you will get a job. **

 

Doloribus voluptate laudantium dolorem repellendus numquam totam. Et adipisci saepe perspiciatis officia excepturi eligendi.

Minus quibusdam mollitia tempore atque impedit sed alias. Consequatur error sunt a maiores et ea. Eum ex voluptas atque veritatis quibusdam facilis nulla.

Tempore rem velit harum molestias. Quae voluptatibus illo optio nam omnis. Quo at voluptatem quis iure.

Ipsum molestiae blanditiis est voluptatem laudantium voluptatem reprehenderit. Cupiditate architecto vel asperiores soluta molestiae suscipit sed. Nihil et dolorem quis autem id sed ducimus a.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Lazard Freres No 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 18 98.3%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (20) $385
  • Associates (90) $259
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (67) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
8
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
10
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”