California lifts stay at home order one week after inauguration
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So?
We all saw this coming... it was all discussed at The French Laundry obviously!
Didn't see you on here on January 12th, discussing how this was obviously a move geared towards helping Mr Trump get some positive headlines in the run up to his impeachment trial.
It looks like michaelthomas is a wider receiver and a news reporter.
Prediction: Covid-19 will end sometime under the Biden administration.
Correlation and Causation are not the same thing. I am sure there is probably some issue you could tie to the inauguration and decreased Covid regulation, but at the end of the day we should be hoping to move towards some solution and the world is going to keep changing regardless.
End? Just like the flu ended right...?
All of the quartine and restrictions will come to a close. hence End the fear of Covid-19
As if trump was going to win California otherwise? Come on. I agree that this has been politicized but this post is a reach.
What reach? It's sharing an article.....
Implying that California kept closed because of the election......
LOL don't be a kid.
This is a different topic but CNN, NBC, ABC, etc also didn't report on Biden freezing Trumps plan to lower the cost of insulin and epinephrine.
Or that he killed 70K jobs nationwide and has also damaged our energy independence by hurting the keystone pipeline. Oh wait, makes sense, they are all in bed together.
the keystone pipeline already exists
if you think keystone XL will create 70k jobs you're too stupid to survive on your own, probably
read a fucking book
I heard he created 700k jobs and helped our energy independence by taking our federal motor vehicle fleet off gasoline! So that puts him 630k jobs ahead. On hearsay, of course.
Biden put a freeze on all Trumps initiatives so they could all be reviewed before given the axe or green light to continue. Pretty standard course of action for any new president coming into office.
Not just California but many Democrat states are re-opening.
This pandemic has always been one big political plan to tank the economy and blame the Orange man bad.
I have said this multiple times but many people on this forum continued to support the Democrats and the lockdowns.
Now they have been exposed. The lockdowns have always been political and the Democrats have finessed you all.
Congrats on sacrificing your freedom for safety.
Your ancestors fought for your freedoms and won. You have been taught by the liberals to revile your ancestors while they take over the institutions and take away your freedoms. Their plan is complete. If you want your freedoms back, the liberals have to go.
He is an Aussie and unlike you, he is not white.
I don’t see the ancestor thing that way. The ancestors they vilify are those who fought against the United States, which includes the Confederacy. Germans don’t celebrate the Nazi party or Nazi generals. Chinese don’t celebrate the Japanese generals of WWII. Most Eastern European countries don’t celebrate Stalin. It’s not just an American idea to not celebrate those who have been enemies of the free world.
Edit: I’m sure you’ll easily be able to find super far left people who think anyone who has ever served for the US is evil etc. I don’t count those. I think the mainstream idea is to respect our veterans of wars, but not hold the Confederate veterans in high regard.
This doesn't apply to black people, at all. I mean, even taking into account the numerous fallacies here (how many people in this country can legitimately trace their ancestry back to someone here prior to 1776? And how can they prove they weren't Tories?), "our ancestors" fought for the "freedoms" of a small number of property owning wealthy folks. The fact that this tended to benefit others may have played a role, but we don't need to lionize people for things they didn't necessarily believe or do. Even at the time, the Founding Fathers of the United States understood the massive contradiction that they fought for a society that had the right to enslave human beings.
Spot on. Unfortunately people like @Ozymandia will continue to display impressive feats of mental gymnastics to deny this reality.
Lol. The "reality" is that California's "statewide" ban had been lifted well before Mr Biden took office, which destroys the entire "implication" of this thread topic.
You seem to live in a world in which whatever conspiracy you believe in the moment, is real, and all facts must twist around that. I'm not sure what mental gymnastics I'm doing - unless you think that liberals are advocating for a permanent closure of certain businesses until the sun burns out, there had to be an end to it some time. I'm not familiar with the reasoning of anyone except my own Governor (Cuomo), so I can't speak to what Gov Newsom is thinking, but the facts and the timeline make it pretty clear that the decisions being made have little to do with who is in office. Things shut down while Biden was President Elect (nominally, obviously Mr Trump's armed coup attempt and his attempt at fraud in Georgia threw that into minor doubt), things reopened while Biden was President Elect. Some things reopened when he took office. Some things re-opened when Mr Trump was President. The only pattern to be deduced here is that politicians made decisions in the moment, based on current conditions. Take NY - literally nothing has changed since mid-December. Mr Cuomo just announced things won't change in the near future.
Amazing that you can allege a conspiracy so advanced, so deep, so penetrating, playing such a game of five dimensional chess, that they haven't even gotten around to implementing it.
Don’t forget the other intended effects: record levels of wealth inequality and violent crime! My deep blue city alone had a 40% (not a typo) increase in homicides and, with approximately a month of data in, is up 10% over that. Now we get to see President Biden fix this own party’s self-created mess and be hailed as a hero for saving America from bad orange man. It’s 100% transparent and the masses will eat it up. I’d be impressed how effectively it was carried out if it weren’t so vile.
California has been open since before Trump left office. I'm not sure what point you're making. Northern California is a hot bed of Trump support and so refused to go along with the Govenor's plan, I take it? But Southern California isn't?
Of course! Those 425,000 dead people were actually already dead and us nasty liberals just counted them as COVID deaths, and then we went and registered them to vote! Beep boop, you caught us.
I didn't see those posts! If I had, of course that kind of "affidavit" would have been definitive in changing my mind, just like all those affidavits about the stolen election changed all those judges and jury's minds.
Yes, all my freedoms are gone. Which were those? I want to approach this like a conservative would approach a given issue. I am not a restauranteur, nor an employee of a food-service business, so... the government didn't do anything out of the ordinary when it comes to me. After all, I wasn't complaining about bars not being open at 5am a year ago, so clearly gov't has some right to dictate operating hours. And if it doesn't impact me, it's not a real issue! Just like institutional bigotry, police brutality, poverty, etc.
So what happens when cases and deaths keep increasing, especially as lockdowns are reversed?
Hopefully, what any intelligent person would do - change course based on changing data.
Can you still not even eat outdoors in Cali?
Nope
I guess it's science.
having seen the "outdoor" dining offered in NYC and my city (read: four walls with no ventilation, just set up on the sidewalk) i get it
You get why restaurants are closed?
Because California screwed up unemployment big time as EDD has been paying out BILLIONS to fraudulent claims...
It was nakedly political as soon as the CDC told us 99.9% of the working populace survives getting COVID...
check your numbers
The summary table literally from the CDC:
CDC COVID-19 Survival Rates
We had these numbers back in September, and similarly positive but not as concrete numbers as early as July/August.
The most telling part about all of this and the “trust the science” people is that California’s Covid ICU beds is double as when the they shutdown outdoor dining. This was back in late November / early December.
Source: https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-…
It is possible to look forward, or to use current data to predict future trends. For example:
Moreover, all of this ignores the fact that there is a difference between where we are now and where we were 8 weeks ago - we have a functioning vaccine. Which is getting to the most at-risk populations at a reasonable rate.
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