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Apr 29, 2008 - 5:44pm

Damn, that middle initial could be a serious filter at JPM.

i.e. you meet someone casually, get their first and last name, but you can't email them unless you know their middle name? Or will first.last work even if they do have a middle initial?

Apr 29, 2008 - 6:57pm
AltESV:
Damn, that middle initial could be a serious filter at JPM.

i.e. you meet someone casually, get their first and last name, but you can't email them unless you know their middle name? Or will first.last work even if they do have a middle initial?

Nope, the idea is that if you're internal you can look them up on Lotus Notes. The big pain for the JPM crew is that the no middle initial crew (NMI in military parlance) goes by first.x.last on lotus notes, so people are forever sending to [email protected]JPMorgan.com from outside emails, not realizing that the internal name structure is different from the external name structure.

There are always exceptions. For people with same first/last names, the other firms sometimes do the middle initial, or even more screwed up variations, like [email protected]ML.com for example.

Apr 29, 2008 - 7:29pm
GenghisKhan:
AltESV:
Damn, that middle initial could be a serious filter at JPM.

i.e. you meet someone casually, get their first and last name, but you can't email them unless you know their middle name? Or will first.last work even if they do have a middle initial?

Nope, the idea is that if you're internal you can look them up on Lotus Notes. The big pain for the JPM crew is that the no middle initial crew (NMI in military parlance) goes by first.x.last on lotus notes, so people are forever sending to [email protected]JPMorgan.com from outside emails, not realizing that the internal name structure is different from the external name structure.

There are always exceptions. For people with same first/last names, the other firms sometimes do the middle initial, or even more screwed up variations, like [email protected]ML.com for example.

Yikes, having different internal and external email addresses sounds like a complete nightmare. And think about the exception to the exception: guys with Xavier as a middle name.

Apr 30, 2008 - 5:15pm

So, as for now, we have the following list:

Goldman Sachs> [email protected]
Morgan Stanley> [email protected]
Credit Suisse> [email protected]
UBS> [email protected]
Merrill Lynch> [email protected]
Lehman Brothers> [email protected]
Deutsche Bank> [email protected]
JPMorgan> [email protected] where i stands for initial of the middle name
> [email protected] if there is no middle name
Citigroup> [email protected]
Evercore> [email protected]
Macquarie Group> [email protected]
Moelis> [email protected]Moelis.com

I will pester you now for the remaining.

So, what about:
-HSBC
-Lazard
-Greenhill
-Dresden Kleinwort
-BNP Paribus
-Barclays
-Royal Bank of Scotland
-Fortis
-Wachovia
-Rotschild
-Societe Generale
-Perella Weinberg
-Cowell
-Blackstone M&A
-Houlihan Lokey

And so on...?

Apr 30, 2008 - 7:49pm

Current:

Goldman Sachs> [email protected]
Morgan Stanley> [email protected]
Credit Suisse> [email protected]
UBS> [email protected]
Merrill Lynch> [email protected]
Lehman Brothers> [email protected]
Deutsche Bank> [email protected]
JPMorgan> [email protected] where i stands for initial of the middle name
> [email protected] if there is no middle name
Citigroup> [email protected]
Evercore> [email protected]
Macquarie Group> [email protected]
Moelis> [email protected]
Dresdner Kleinwort> [email protected]
Lazard> [email protected]
Perella Weinberg> [email protected]
Houlihan Lokey> [email protected]HLHZ.com

Remaining

-HSBC
-Greenhill
-BNP Paribus
-Barclays
-Royal Bank of Scotland
-Fortis
-Wachovia
-Rotschild
-Societe Generale
-Cowell
-Blackstone M&A

...others? Keep it coming, even with the boutiques.

May 9, 2008 - 11:54am

Cheers for brisbane!

So, the new list is:

Goldman Sachs> [email protected]
Morgan Stanley> [email protected]
Credit Suisse> [email protected]
UBS> [email protected]
Merrill Lynch> [email protected]
Lehman Brothers> [email protected]
Deutsche Bank> [email protected]
JPMorgan> [email protected] where i stands for initial of the middle name
> [email protected] if there is no middle name
Citigroup> [email protected]
Evercore> [email protected]
Macquarie Group> [email protected]
Moelis> [email protected]
Dresdner Kleinwort> [email protected]
Lazard> [email protected]
Perella Weinberg> [email protected]
Houlihan Lokey> [email protected]
Greenhill> [email protected]Greenhill.com
BNP Paribus(North America): [email protected] (perhaps it goes on with asia, europe (or emea?)
SocGen(Canada): [email protected]
Blackstone: [email protected]Blackstone.com

Still unknown:
-HSBC
-Barclays
-Royal Bank of Scotland
-Fortis
-Wachovia
-Rotschild
-Cowell

Jun 17, 2008 - 10:39pm

Clarification on the JPMorgan e-mail addresses. Prior to the JPM/Chase merger, heritage JPMorgan staff had the structure [email protected]. Chase had the middle initial. New employees by default get the [email protected] structure, even if they don't specify a middle name. Of course, some hertiage Chase staff found out and fought to get the first.last structure as well, so there are a few exceptions.

Even with the middle intial, there are duplicates. I know a couple off the top of my head, sometimes the duplicate gets the X initial or if there is a second letter, they place both initials in ([email protected]). Of course, once two initials were allowed to be placed, someone in the London office got the bright idea to make their middle intials "UK" for their e-mail.

One reason for the high number of duplicates is because the internal server doesn't differentiate between different domain names. So jpmorgan>[email protected] goes the the same address as @chase.com, @jpmchase, @bankone.com, and soon bear.com). Just think of how many "bankers" (aka tellers) work for Chase and you can see why there are so many duplicates.

Jul 22, 2008 - 11:17pm

Does anyone have Oppenheimer's email structure? Trying to reach out to a buddy of mine, but I don't have his email on hand. Many thanks.

Jan 7, 2009 - 2:18pm

I used to work for JPM, the x in [email protected]JPMorgan.com designates that the employee doesn't use or doesn't have a middle name on their employee records. So for instance, if John Andrew Doe used his middle name in his employee record, his email structure would be [email protected]. If he didn't use his middle name on his employee record the structure would be [email protected]. I hope this clarifies.

Sep 17, 2010 - 4:18pm
mdk0102:
Hey guys. I'm still having problems reaching several people at PWP and BAML. I tried using several different formats including the suggested ones in this thread. Does anyone know what the correct formats are?

BAML is a bitch to get right.

I believe that [email protected]baml.com works, also try [email protected] if they were at ML first.

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Nov 1, 2010 - 3:34pm

I know that this isn't a structure, but it is a very useful tool:

Say you want to check the validity of an e-mail address before you sent out a random e-mail--sending a Bcc to the entire alphabet will hit everyone in the list with the same first and last name (see [email protected] structure).

Use this website: http://mailtester.com/testmail.php

Input "[email protected]", "[email protected]", etc. until you have a list of the valid email addresses for everyone named John Doe at JPMorgan. Typically you'll find that you have maybe 2 or 3 people with similar email addresses. Then you can use your Google skills to see who is who, or send out a Bcc to the valid addresses and hope that the employees don't work next to each other, or that they're kind enough to accept a cold email from someone they've never met without expecting the person to know their middle initial.

Feb 17, 2011 - 12:23am
serial monkey:
yes
reached the Senior Monkey status with this post!

Amateur ;)

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Feb 23, 2011 - 9:51am
happypantsmcgee:
serial monkey:
yes
reached the Senior Monkey status with this post!

Amateur ;)


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