MBA gpa discrepancy and background check

During the summer application for associate position in hk ib back in oct/nov 2010, I didn't have my grades yet and I entered 3.5 for the online application based on my strong undergrad result (3.7) In the end I got an offer from bb and they request I sign info disclosure agreement for background check. My result come out with a lot of b+ and gpa of 3.2 for the first semester.

Should I proactively tell the recruiter? Or just wait until they find out then explain that I was overconfident and our MBA has a small class and very hard to get As

Any suggestion is highly appreciated.

 

I think you should be proactive and honest. If you don't, and they see it first, it will come across as dishonest. It wont matter how you try to explain yourself.

I actually don't know if they'll check your GPA on a background check (I have been out of school for awhile and nobody cares about GPA in my world) so maybe someone else can clarify that, but just in case I would be honest and upfront.

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You shouldn't have entered 3.5 on the application - that was a lie, nothing more nothing less. I would try to find out what they verify on the background check, and also come up with a story that you can substantiate - for example, if it comes up, think of a better reason to expect your GPA to be a 3.5 in your first semester - for example, grades received by the time you applied. So find out if they will check, and then start being pro-active if they do check, but keep in mind that you WILL raise some eye-brows. Was it also on your resume?

 

Why did you list your high school GPA at all? 3.4 --> 3.9 is unacceptable. 3.4 --> 3.6 would even cause you problems. My prediction is that you'll have your offer rescinded. It will be a painful, yet valuable lesson for you.

-MBP
 
manbearpig:
Why did you list your high school GPA at all? 3.4 --> 3.9 is unacceptable. 3.4 --> 3.6 would even cause you problems. My prediction is that you'll have your offer rescinded. It will be a painful, yet valuable lesson for you.

I'm a freshman so i thought it was important to list it? do you think the bg company will contact my high school to check? I guess i knew that 3.4 would look awful and everyone agrees (both my school and college im now at) that i would have got a 3.9 had i not been hospitalized. I know it's wrong, but in a way i feel like it's also wrong that illness is preventing me from getting an internship. i don't know, but you're totally right - it's a lesson learnt. You don't think i'll get blacklisted from BB's do you?

 
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Jourdan:
manbearpig:
Why did you list your high school GPA at all? 3.4 --> 3.9 is unacceptable. 3.4 --> 3.6 would even cause you problems. My prediction is that you'll have your offer rescinded. It will be a painful, yet valuable lesson for you.

I'm a freshman so i thought it was important to list it? do you think the bg company will contact my high school to check? I guess i knew that 3.4 would look awful and everyone agrees (both my school and college im now at) that i would have got a 3.9 had i not been hospitalized. I know it's wrong, but in a way i feel like it's also wrong that illness is preventing me from getting an internship. i don't know, but you're totally right - it's a lesson learnt. You don't think i'll get blacklisted from BB's do you?

I doubt you'll be blacklisted. Just pretend it was a typo if you get caught. I still think your offer will be rescinded though if they catch you.
-MBP
 
Jourdan:
manbearpig:
Why did you list your high school GPA at all? 3.4 --> 3.9 is unacceptable. 3.4 --> 3.6 would even cause you problems. My prediction is that you'll have your offer rescinded. It will be a painful, yet valuable lesson for you.

I'm a freshman so i thought it was important to list it? do you think the bg company will contact my high school to check? I guess i knew that 3.4 would look awful and everyone agrees (both my school and college im now at) that i would have got a 3.9 had i not been hospitalized. I know it's wrong, but in a way i feel like it's also wrong that illness is preventing me from getting an internship. i don't know, but you're totally right - it's a lesson learnt. You don't think i'll get blacklisted from BB's do you?

Are you serious

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Hold your horses and relax.

As people have mentioned - it's unlikely they would check this given the circumstances.

If they do check this - then you're probably out. But the word is not going to spread. Put the correct GPA or nothing at all and never speak about this place or the application again. It'll be like nothing has ever happened. Find something else to do over the summer. It's very unlikely that it would haunt you in any way.

If they don't check this - then do your very best to make a good impression there. If for some reason you ever in the future have to provide a CV at the same company (let's say they want you back next year or whatever) then redesign your CV to the unrecognizable and leave your high school GPA off. Anywhere else, just feel really proud that you did a good job over the summer, accept mankind's flawed nature and decide to do it straight from now on.

 
manbearpig:
Why did you list your high school GPA at all? 3.4 --> 3.9 is unacceptable. 3.4 --> 3.6 would even cause you problems. My prediction is that you'll have your offer rescinded. It will be a painful, yet valuable lesson for you.

wrong. a 3.4 rounds to 3.5 and that rounds to 4.0. problem solved.

(j/k)

 

I totally see.your point. If I had listened to my parents and actually given a damn about school when I was younger, most people agree that I would have gone to harvard.

If I was not so burnt out after running track all year and summer I would have kept running and my coaches told me I was on track for the olympics.

regards,

Cartwrighy Harvard 05

US Track and Field, 800 meters 2000 Summer Olympics, Sydney

 

If this is a handwritten app and your handwriting isn't the best, you can always play it off as they misread the 4 as a 9

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I'd be surprised if they cared about high school transcripts...but then again I've heard of SAT scores being looked at seriously so who knows.

People tend to think life is a race with other people. They don't realize that every moment they spend sprinting towards the finish line is a moment they lose permanently, and a moment closer to their death.
 
rickyross:
I'd be surprised if they cared about high school transcripts...but then again I've heard of SAT scores being looked at seriously so who knows.
I've been asked my SAT on interviews.....
D M:
If this is a handwritten app and your handwriting isn't the best, you can always play it off as they misread the 4 as a 9
shady.....I like it
Get busy living
 

Which BB is this? PM me and I can let you know if that's what they did for the one I was at. Not sure how much they look into GPA since my BB never asked for a transcript and the background company they used didn't either.

If you don't want to take the risk, email HR and ask them if you can send them an updated resume and put the lower GPA on there. Make sure you have a story if they ask why.

 

Trust me, this is not a unique situation. People's GPAs almost always drop a bit after completing a season of recruiting. As long as you didn't lie about your GPA when you put it on your resume and accepted the job, you didn't do anything wrong. You'll be fine.

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I am generally in favor of honesty, but this is GPA for a post-MBA position. Nobody gives a shit about bschool GPAs.

I doubt it will come up, but, if it does, say it was an estimate based on your grades at that point in the semester. Like life said, it's not like you got a 2.0 or something horrible.

Email HR an updated resume. I am guessing they won't even notice your updated GPA.

 

Thanks for all the inputs, I'm.afraid being proactive now will cause more trouble because I know my results in Jan and now is march. Looks like im hiding. Im trying to weigh the pros/cons of tell early or wait until they come up. They r using first advantage for backgroundcheck. So the results will definitely come up i think. As MBA, we r not allowed to put gpa on the resume, it was asked during online application.

Thanks

 

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