Help: LBO Model Terminal Value differences

Need help, practicing with an lbo model for a pharma company. All projections are in line, the bs balances. When it came to DCF, wanted to calculate TV by using both the perpetuity growth and multiple approach. The values are coming back very different. I noticed that if I play around with the WACC i can get them more in line, but the WACC will be out of wack.

Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong?

Help is appreciated

 
LeveragedFiend:
You don't need to practice modeling for interviews. And LBO models don't have DCFs.

The company i am applying for is a private equity shop and they give you a case and expect for you to build a model. The sample ones i have seen have IRR analysis and DCF...is this not correct?

 
LeveragedFiend:
Ok my bad I thought you were talking IB interview. It is my experience that a DCF analysis is not usually included in an LBO model (which has op model, sources and uses, irr, etc), but you may need to do a DCF as part of your case. I would reach out to someone like compbanker or captk who has PE experience.

Thanks will do

 
Best Response

I suppose I can comment, although I haven't even looked at a true DCF model since I was an investment banker. I'm not really sure why a PE firm is asking you to do this kind of analysis unless they are conducting a valuation exercise.

There is certainly a possibility that a perpetuity model comes out different from a multiple driven exit value. The multiple is arbitrarily chosen .. it could be 5x EBITDA, or it could be 10x EBITDA. Both will net you substantially different TEVs. The same as true for the perpetuity model -- what is your assumed growth rate into perpetuity? What is your discount rate (although this can be estimated, even for private companies)? A 1% or 2% change can drive significant value.

So you've got two different valuation approaches that are both drastically changed by slight variances in arbitrary assumptions. It is not unreasonable that two could produce very different results.

CompBanker’s Career Guidance Services: https://www.rossettiadvisors.com/
 

Great thanks CompBanker...I realized that my purchase price undervalued the company a little also so after changing that part the valuation was a little bit more in line, still quite different though. I guess as long as I can walk through both of the methods and provide an opinion about which valuation is more realistic I should be ok.

 

Suscipit qui autem quo eligendi. Accusamus minima voluptatem corrupti accusantium omnis similique tempore. Ratione id ut adipisci non natus corrupti. Perferendis delectus placeat dolorum voluptatem velit incidunt.

Ut tenetur velit quasi soluta rerum. Nobis quasi blanditiis perferendis aliquid laudantium architecto.

Porro et asperiores iste quaerat qui mollitia. Repellendus velit occaecati est incidunt.

Vel eos corrupti cum optio mollitia omnis et. Nihil nemo voluptatum minus voluptatibus eos nobis dicta. Voluptates voluptatum delectus fugiat eos suscipit eum.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Private Equity

  • The Riverside Company 99.5%
  • Blackstone Group 99.0%
  • Warburg Pincus 98.4%
  • KKR (Kohlberg Kravis Roberts) 97.9%
  • Bain Capital 97.4%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Private Equity

  • The Riverside Company 99.5%
  • Blackstone Group 98.9%
  • KKR (Kohlberg Kravis Roberts) 98.4%
  • Ardian 97.9%
  • Bain Capital 97.4%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Private Equity

  • The Riverside Company 99.5%
  • Bain Capital 99.0%
  • Blackstone Group 98.4%
  • Warburg Pincus 97.9%
  • Starwood Capital Group 97.4%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Private Equity

  • Principal (9) $653
  • Director/MD (22) $569
  • Vice President (92) $362
  • 3rd+ Year Associate (91) $281
  • 2nd Year Associate (206) $268
  • 1st Year Associate (388) $229
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (29) $154
  • 2nd Year Analyst (83) $134
  • 1st Year Analyst (246) $122
  • Intern/Summer Associate (32) $82
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (315) $59
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
8
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
10
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”