High School "friends" are ruining my College Experience

So, I am currently a sophomore at a Big 10 non target. Since i live like 20 minutes from the college, almost 3 quarters of my high school graduating class entered said college. During senior year of high school, I told my "friends" about wall street careers, and ever since then, they have been completely hooked. However, starting freshman year, the friends who I told wall street about started talking crap about me. To make matters worse, they talked shit about me to the E-Board of our Investment Banking Club, which made it ridiculously tough for me to befriend the executive board members. It got to the point where one of my "friends" thoroughly convinced the president to have me removed from the emailing list. However, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I have no chance whatsoever to become an eboard member, and by not becoming an eboard member I have no chance to land into a IB position whatsoever as I will lack the credibility nor "leadership" to stand out in this college. It just completely frustrates that college students still care about high school drama. It even frustrates me more on how a college senior can take high school bullshit from a freshman . This is clearly the bane of going to a shitty nontarget where people care not about your personality, but how many followers you have on Instagram, how much "Supreme" clothing you own, and how "street smart" you are. The friend circle who I invested so much time in explaining IB, Consulting, and VC, the same people who I had entrusted so much have all completely abandoned me, and are ruining my reputation in college by spreading lies. In conclusion, should I transfer to a better college?

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Sep 8, 2018

I'm trying to think of a Big 10 non-target where rich dbags are into Supreme. I immediately think of Indiana, but I thought Kelley was a decent target? That many high school friends sounds awful tbh, if your gpa is strong, why not transfer to a target and leave that BS in the rearview?

Sep 15, 2018

The club at IU does amazing with Wall St placement and in general their pretty good, some may even get Wall ST jobs without the club there in general, IU is actually top 20 on the list if you look at this

https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/wso-ranking...
You dont need to be an "e-board" member but just a member of the network so I'm almost thinking it is probably not IU

No big cities are 20 Minutes away from Bloomington, IN

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Sep 8, 2018

Grow some balls and tell your friends to fuck off. Your finance club isn't the only way to show leadership, either. Take initiative and stop blaming your problems on other people. I had this same issue with friends I couldn't shake. The solution is to quit bitching, keep your head down, be serious, stop chilling with them, move on, prosper without them.

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Sep 9, 2018

Rutgers?

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Sep 9, 2018

Nope, Penn State. The home of Beer Pong, Barstool Sports, insane football fans, drunk super seniors, and pedophiles. (Our football team has an effed up history regarding coaches and kids under the age of 14)
Btw, I most definitely considering to transfer to UPenn.

Sep 9, 2018
  1. Fuck your supposed high school friends.
  2. Grind and network even harder using their shit talking as motivation.

I hardly stay in touch with any of my high school friends. They simply don't add value to my life. Life is too short to be spending significant amounts of time with losers.

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Sep 9, 2018
  1. These people are not your friends.
  2. Consider transferring, seeing how you're only a freshman?
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Sep 9, 2018

Here's the issue though. I no longer talk to these people, but they are spreading lies about me in info/networking sessions and are giving me a bad name amongst other club members. Because of them, certain eboard members have already "talked shit" about me, and had me removed from the emailing list.
What I am most afraid about is how no alumni will vouch for me due to the lies being spread.
Btw, Im a sophomore, and I am most definitely considering to transfer to a top 5 school.

Sep 9, 2018

This is probably a stupid question, but what on earth are your friends telling alumni about you?

I really find it hard to believe that people would go to a professional setting to network with successful alumni, and rather than ask about that person's path and career opportunities, they start spreading rumors and talking crap about another student.

Alumni: "Very nice to meet you. Are you interested in our company?"

Your Friends: "Yeah, but this guy on campus is a complete toolshed..."

Could you elaborate on what they are saying about you? This story seems far-fetched

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Sep 9, 2018

Dude, Penn State is fucking huge. It's not hard to never run into them. Everyone also understands in college that some people have random beef from high school, but I highly doubt the entire finance club is going to blackball you because you fucked some members girlfriend back in high school or whatever the issue may be. You sound like a total beta, that's probably the real underlying problem here.

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Sep 9, 2018

Sorry to hear about that, but in the "real world" BS like that follows you way into adulthood. Don't think for a second people won't stab you in the back 10-20 years from now, if it directly benefits them.

My tips are:

1) Never, ever tell anyone about positions or opportunities which will give you an edge, by nothing more than arbitrage. The arbitrage in your case was knowledge: Had you not told your friends about said WS careers, they would not have started seeking career-building opportunities. What you should have done, was to keep your mouth shut, secure a positions, and maybe THEN spread the good word.

The only thing you did, was to create unnecessary competition.

2) Do not share important information if it does not benefit yourself, under the assumption that a favor will be returned.

This builds on 1), but the simple fact here is that you did not benefit anything from sharing information, and your friends were not obliged to return favors. So try to adapt a strategic mindset about things in the future. Hell, take a class n Game Theory while you're in college.

I'm not saying that you should become a cynic, and assume everyone's out to f**k you over at all times, but know that a lot of things in life boils down to opportunity, and that some people will throw you under the bus for said opportunities, no mater what history you had before.

So, to sum it all up

  • Keep your cards close
  • Analyze the strategic positions (who benefits what)
  • Think twice about the information you're given, there's usually no free lunch.

The higher the stakes, the more bullshit you'll have to endure.

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  •  Sep 9, 2018
nontargetbeerpong:

This is clearly the bane of going to a shitty nontarget where people care not about your personality, but how many followers you have on Instagram, how much "Supreme" clothing you own, and how "street smart" you are.

Exactly the type of low-level trash I expected from non-targets. Ditch and forget about them, these types of unmotivated, retarded trash will still be in your college town in 10 years, getting in drunk bar fights, making 30k a year, and getting arrested.

Focus on your studies, and my recommendation would be to transfer out.

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  • ij29824DE
  •  Sep 15, 2018

Would also like to add that Penn state is not a bad school for CS; if these people are truly prohibiting any ventures into finance, tech is your contingency. Apply for a a couple internships at tech companies.

Sep 28, 2018

I'm going to add that business needs these dull minded people to exploit and have them do crappy repetitive work for low pay for years on end that smart people would never touch. we actually need them to remain dumb otherwise we would have to pay them more because they've realized how much of a dead end career they're in. let them get off on trivial things such as social media and clothes, and limit their intellectual firepower-- things that will never guarantee 9 digits on their accounts

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  • ij29824DE
  •  Sep 30, 2018

spot-on.

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Sep 10, 2018
  1. Transferring junior year is pointless for junior year internships, if you dont get a return offer/internship it will help for full time recruiting.
  2. You already gave up, why are you trying to go to investment banking if not getting an e-board leadership position already broke you down? Take it with a grain of salt, but you gotta do some self reflection and determine if you really want to be an investment banker. As it is, it doesnt really seem like you do if you are already raising your white flag before the war started.
  3. Being a non-target wont be the reason that prevented you from breaking in, not having a leadership position in an e-board will also not be the reason. The only reason will be is that you didnt work hard enough for it. With that being said OP you are just a sophomore, you got so much time left to hustle, so take action instead of sitting on your ass crying.
  4. With that being said college can be rough when you find yourself in a hostile environment like this, but you aren't powerless to change your situation. I hope that you realize in the near future how silly this post was. Good luck OP, out hustle the ones that tried holding you down, out hustle the ones that doubt you, let your success be the best form of revenge.
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Sep 10, 2018
nontargetbeerpong:

college students still care about high school drama. It even frustrates me more on how a college senior can take high school bullshit from a freshman .

Ha. ha. ha..... wait until you enter the workforce my friend. Politics (grown up version of drama) are a real thing.

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Sep 10, 2018

I know for a fact there are other Clubs aside from PSIA that you can join / have an exec board membership in to diversify your resume. The Wall Street Boot Camp isn't run by the PSIA Eboard and will be merit based (if you have good gpa / drive you have a good shot at getting into that). There are also other investment clubs (albeit not as big as PSIA / NLF) you can join. Get new friends, network, and if you really want, call out those so-called "friends" in front of the Eboard and get everything out into the open, if they don't have the balls to confront you about your issues they probably won't have the stones to say anything back...

Sep 10, 2018

I know people are saying fuck them, but in reality, this is where you keep your friends close. If you had, they wouldn't want to seem two-faced and say bad things, plus look stupid picking a fight down campus row. You could've won by playing nice and pretending to be 100% on their side. Just a couple pennies.

EDIT: also, you never know if these people are the rejects you say they are or if they're the next Donald Trump lol. You should burn as few bridges as you can. The only bridges you should let burn are the ones that come to you asking for a handout, who then get upset if and when you say no. If you don't want a close relationship with someone, then stop calling. But you don't have to be enemies and not friends with everyone.

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Sep 10, 2018

If you have a 3.8-4.0 GPA and are not in this club versus someone who is and has a mediocre 3.2, which do you think IBs are going to favor?

You make your own path. In the grand scheme of things, a club is pretty minor. Its not like getting on Law Review at Law school.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

Sep 10, 2018

The politics in my schools investment club were comical because the only people who took it seriously where the losers who couldn't get internships.

"Work ethic, work ethic" - Vince Vaughn
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Sep 10, 2018

This thread sucks as much as the "Serious Legal Trouble" thread.

Your friends are losers. You probably are too from your story about how you "told them all about wall street careers" like you opened their eyes to God or some shit and your idea that you'll never get a IB position without a leadership position in this specific club. The E-Board of your club are losers if they are taking you off email lists and blackballing you from future E-Board membership because of what your friends are telling them behind your back. This Investment Banking Club seems to be made up of losers from head to toe, which I suppose shouldn't be a surprise from it being a college Investment Banking Club.

If you want a IB position, study interview prep and network your ass off. If you worry about a lack of leadership positions, join one of a hundred different organizations that are more impressive anyhow, like Student Government or a fraternity. Or just sack the fuck up and run against your loser friends and the outgoing board and rally the rest of the club to your cause.

Your high school friends suck. Your club sucks. It doesn't mean you have to, even if you go to Penn State.

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Sep 10, 2018

It is a sad truth but there is a bit of a "popularity contest" for the club he's talking about... Manages probably over 8MM now and they have like a 98% placement into FO gigs... they kind of hold all of the power and the professor that oversees it is the epitome of "peaked in High School"

That being said I totally agree you can't let that be the status quo and you should join a different club, seek other opportunities, or stand up to them and call them out.

Your best bet is to first stand up to your "Friends" in front of some of the people in the club (preferably E-board members as well) then apply pressure and send the E-board an email and CC the Prof. as well asking to be put onto the distribution list.

Sucks but office politics happens in the real world. Gotta learn how to play the game sadly.

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Sep 10, 2018

What kind of lies are they spreading about you? There is a difference between them talking about you being into weird anime shows versus you prostituting yourself to the accounting professor to get that 89 rounded up to a 90.

Also this is pretty obvious but if your so-called friends are spreading that shit around is because 1. they were never your friends in the first place and 2. they never respected you. And the fact that your peers did not respect you tells me you probably are not much of a leader or confident.

I might be wrong though, some people are smart and great and it makes their friends jealous, so if that's the case then truly, truly fuck those people. I hope you have confronted them about it, and not to say violence is okay, but I would try to get in a situation where they swing first so you can knock their teeth out and not get in trouble.

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Sep 11, 2018

Lies claiming I'm a "snake" and I am the son of some multi millionaire HF managers bullshit, and that I am here to steal their jobs lmao. They also bring up some bullshit on how I was the "perfect candidate" in High School: Since I so happened to take a total of 15 AP courses, got 4s and 5s on all of them, earned a 35 on the ACT, pres of Sci Olympiad, etc....... **Basically they want to present to the eboard that I am "the same as the target kids" because I was ivy league caliber, and are trying to use the inferiority complex within the eboard to put me down. **

Sep 11, 2018
nontargetbeerpong:

Lies claiming I'm a "snake" and I am the son of some multi millionaire HF managers bullshit, and that I am here to steal their jobs lmao. They also bring up some bullshit on how I was the "perfect candidate" in High School: Since I so happened to take a total of 15 AP courses, got 4s and 5s on all of them, earned a 35 on the ACT, pres of Sci Olympiad, etc....... **Basically they want to present to the eboard that I am "the same as the target kids" because I was ivy league caliber, and are trying to use the inferiority complex within the eboard to put me down. **

You're clearly just an entitled douchebag

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Sep 11, 2018
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