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The world would have been better off if the allies fought against the commies rather than the fascists.
1st Place: Communism with ~100 million
Distant 2nd: Fascism with 6 million
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yea bro
Lol. Trump diehard spotted. This has loaded support for the Confederacy flag on the wall all over it. Sure, it's free speech, but you are still a POS for the ideas you're spouting. Do you not remember the Cold War?
sorry, I just hate seeing western countries commit suicide by cultural marxists
I hate seeing western countries commit suicide by thinking cultural Marxists are a bigger threat than China.
To be fair, they were pretty much the same thing lol, just modern-day socialists.
Gun Control, No free speech, heavily regulating education, More power to government, taxes etc
Oh look - the QAnon believer is pro-Fascism and pro-Nazism
Color me surprised
1st Place: Communism with ~100 million
Distant 2nd: Fascism with 6 million
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You gotta include the opportunity cost and number of civilians the Japanese killed:
1st Place: Communism with 100 Mil
2nd Place: 6 million Jews + 20 million Chinese + 2.5 Million Indians + 5.6 million Poles + 2 million or so Filipinos, Koreans, South East Asians, and Pacific Islanders = 36.1 million. Deaths of their own: 8.8 million Germans + 3.1 million Japanese + 0.5 million Italians = 12.4 million. Total of 48.5 Million direct deaths not including American, French, and British casualties. Also add tens of millions more who would've died if Facism went unchecked.
All in all, they both would've killed the same amount of people if given the opportunity.
if this is the xander I know from Btown this is hilarious
A-At least we don't speak German...
I get your point, fascism is closer to capitalism but is still fundamentally socialism, and the structure will usually necessitate a totalitarian regime. They are both terrible systems- but gun to my head I suppose fascism is better than communism? Is that the question essentially? lol what a weird thing to think about
glad I can keep you on your toes
The bar has been lowered too far.
Here are the cliff's notes for WWII:
FDR was a socialist
Churchill was a blowhard who would rather see poor people die in the blitz than let them shelter in the underground
Hitler was, well....what can I say that hasn't already been said? Maybe the easiest word is genocidal?
Stalin? All about maintaining his power, everything else be damned. Pure banana republic dictator.
Mussolini could barely get out of his own way.
Japan was essentially a military dictatorship. They had to keep conquering to maintain power.
The short of it is that the winners write the histories. Arguably, an alternate history where the US allied with the Central Powers in WWI would be more likely, as there were a large number of German immigrants in the US, and it might have shifted the balance of naval power, cutting off France.
The Lusitania was a plant, and it is very unlikely that she would have sunk anywhere near that quickly if she hadn't been smuggling munitions to the UK in her hold under the theory that no U-boat would torpedo a US passenger liner.
Pearl Harbor was a blatant act of war, and there was no way not to engage. There is some speculation that it was choreographed by FDR and the Navy, given that 'Code Purple' (Japanese diplomatic messages) had been cracked, and the carriers were out on exercises. Japan declared war on the US, but I think that there is a story that the diplomat was held up in traffic, and the codebrakers had already informed FDR and bombing had begun before he got there. (not sure how true it is) Military codes supposedly had not though, and it's not even clear the Navy thought of the carrier as superior to the battleship for at least another year, so this is much more of a crackpot theory.
Tbh, both sides on WW1 had no morally superior cause like in WW2. The US could've gone with either
Did you know that the US military devised a plan to invade Canada, then the UK during the 1920s and 1930s? Look up War Red Plan
Mr. Friedchickenman, what was the moral cause surrounding WW2? It's unfortunate most people don't understand that the death/work camps were discovered after the war, and that's not why we entered the war at all.
I know of the plan anecdotally, but I've never really looked into it. Thanks. Now I have something to read on this exciting quarantine Friday night.
I do think that allied moral superiority in WWII is overstated. A large driver of Hitler's rise were the punitive terms applied to Germany in the Treaty of Versailles, which ended up kneecapping the Weimar Republic. By many accounts Stalin even killed more civilians than Hitler. Look at the Japanese internment camps on the west coast as well. Heck, early in the war, Stalin signed a secret agreement with Hitler to split Poland between the two of them.
I'm not going to argue against using the A-bomb, from what I've read it likely saved lives, but it was the only time a nuclear bomb was ever used in anger.
Instead of trying to rate which is worse, why can't we acknowledge that both are terrible, and have caused the deaths of millions of innocent people?
Because that wouldn’t mesh with OP’s QAnon, Fascistic worldview
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