Subpar GPA and GMAT usually mean subpar MBA program that is usually not worth attending.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I get what you're saying but I'm talking about for top programs? Is every person getting accepted have a stellar GPA and GMAT?

pretty much ... you have to be in the general range or have glowing work experience and recommendations. 

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what do you mean deferred? 

poets & quants has a section that rank peoples chances of getting in to their desired courses, i.e. people submit their profile and gmat and these guys write a public review of their chances. I cant find it but im sure its still around if you have a snoop -

https://poetsandquants.com/2020/11/06/2020s-biggest-rumors-about-applyi…


edit: i think its this - looks different to what I remember - they used to do 4-5 people at a time:

https://poetsandquants.com/2020/02/10/introducing-mba-watch-discover-yo…

 

There are outliers certainly, yes. I know of one guy who got into HBS with a ~3.2 and a 690 GMAT score......but he was also Cherokee and his pre-MBA employment experience was I think 2 years between the practice squad and 53-man roster for an NFL team (among other stuff, can't remember since I read this when I was applying to business school).

 

I think the question was about deferred programs - so kids who get in out of Undergrad then go in 2 years. 

To my knowledge, you need to be an absolute blue chip candidate to get into HBS or GSB deferred (like 2+2 programs). The reason is you have nothing else on your resume and nothing separating you from the fact that you just were in school for 4 years and did mediocre. That does not mean you are out of luck for MBA - many people get great work experience for 3 - 5 years, get a great GMAT score and then apply and get in the normal way despite a mediocre undergrad GPA. This is how I went from 3.0 to M7: high GMAT and good work experience I could speak to 

 

Engineer + big 4 Consulting, 770 GMAT I was laser focused on what I wanted to do post school and my story made sense. Got into Wharton, CBS, Sloan and Darden. Ended up going to one of the M7 with 80% scholarship. Not an under-represented minority either, just had great essays (spent months) top GMAT, great extracurriculars/volunteering that I'd done for much longer than the standard 6-months-soup-kitchen-for-my-application that a lot of people do, and really good recommendations. All told, outside of HBS/GSB, you basically get one "blink" - which for me was a 2.9X GPA, everything else had to be perfect. 

 

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