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Jun 29, 2010

Both of these have been covered a lot on this board. Just do a quick search you'll probably find something helpful.

Jun 29, 2010

Tough decision. Obviously LSE is the better program but I've always heard if you want to work in the US go to school here. It might be difficult to go to school in Europe and work there for a year while networking on your own for jobs in the US.

On a side note, did you consider WUSTL MSF since you went there for undergrad? I thought they had good placement in prop shops in Chicago.

Oct 24, 2010

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Jun 29, 2010

That makes sense. I just wanted to see your reasoning behind the choice. Having access to multiple alumni networks is great. Good luck.

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Oct 24, 2010

If you're a US citizen go for Vanderbilt because it has national recognition and is a top msf in the country. LSE if you're not a US citizen since it is more known internationally so it gives you the opportunity to almost work anywhere you want.

Oct 24, 2010

Congrats on getting into both! I was just accepted to Vanderbilt MSF as well. The career resources are supposed to be terrific and I have already, within 12 hours of accepting the offer, received an email from the career management center with resources to use.

I think both are terrific schools. Going to LSE may help you get into a BB role after graduation but that role will likely be located in London. If you are fine working in London for a few years LSE may be your best option. Vanderbilt definitely has a great program though and if you accept I look forward to meeting you. Like NameOfProfit mentioned above Vanderbilt is one of the top MSF programs in the country and definitely a good choice if you are trying to break into investment banking. (42% last year pursued investment banking I believe)

Oct 24, 2010

Didn't get into MIT?

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Oct 24, 2010

Vandy because you're an American. London is great, but it's going to be hard to land a gig unless you're a EU citizen.

Oct 24, 2010

Hi TNA. Thanks for all of your advice so far in the process.

Do you have any information on how Vanderbilt places into consulting? I want to keep that an open option as well if it doesn't hinder my other options too much. And how feasible do you think it would be (if I decided to go to LSE) to get an internship here in the States the summer before and then pursue full time recruiting in London. Do you have any stories of anyone who has done something similar?

Also, any info on how internships there work? Would I be eligible or would that be something to talk to LSE about? I would really like the international experience, but don't want to shoot myself in the foot in the process.

Oct 24, 2010

Just be aware that recruiting in London is very structured and long, very hard to network. You'll have the LSE name but you'll have to go through the same several recruitment rounds that others do. My advice is stay in the US and go to Vanderbilt, unless you're a brit or an Asian and used to this type of thing.

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Oct 24, 2010

Interlude, thanks for the advice. You mentioned in another thread that going to Vanderbilt would devalue my brand (it was in the MSF 2017 thread). I'm hyped for Vandy but kind of scared at what you mentioned. Since LSE is a top name, would that devalue my brand at all? Or do you think I should just hold off for an MBA instead of considering these choices?

Oct 24, 2010

Info on Vanderbilt placements can be found here: http://issuu.com/vanderbiltowen/docs/msf_2014_empl...
They do place some students into consulting firms, I am sure LSE does as well.

Oct 24, 2010

I would suggest Vandy .

Oct 24, 2010

One option would be accepting Vandy (it starts in September, right?) and then using the HYP network to try and land a job right now. If you land it then you don't have to waste time on an MSF, and if you fail you have a very good back up plan to fall on.

It wouldn't even be morally wrong cause if you back out they would then be able to fill your spot in the 3rd round (I know nothing about MSF admissions but assume they're similar to the MBA ones).

Oct 24, 2010

I 100% agree with Interlude12. The MSF is unnecessary given this guys background. Self-study is likely the best and least costly option. If you went to HYP and cannot get a entry level finance job I am not sure a MSF would help much anyways. It ultimately comes down to how well this guy can network and self-study.

After reading through your posts, it seems like waiting a few years and going to a MBA program sounds like a better option.

Oct 24, 2010

How many have gotten investment banking jobs at reputable companies with good exit opportunities without going through formal recruiting?

I agree that it's ridiculously easy to get a finance job if you go through formal recruiting from HYP, but once that window closes it becomes significantly harder to get break in. You're given the benefit of the doubt if you're going through formal recruiting, but to break in without experience once you're out of that formal recruiting network (again to go to a good bank with good exit opportunities) is more difficult.

That MBA plan seems like a good idea: how often do people with technology consulting backgrounds break into good banks without prior experience? I'm ok with waiting 2+ years, but if I go to b-school and lose out on recruiting because of too many years without experience that would be a tough pill to swallow.

Oct 24, 2010

I would say it shouldn't be too difficult, given your background, if you go to a M7 or maybe even top 15 business school. It also depends on what consulting company you work for and how quickly you are promoted. Would be interesting to hear other people's perspectives seeing as I don't have much of a background on the matter.

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Jun 30, 2010

That's a difficult decision in your case. I think it depends on whether you want to work in Europe or US. LSE Acc&Fin is the better program due to it's employability brand. However in your case, you've got a decent profile with some previous wrk ex in BB albeit BO, so I'm sure you'll get a good shot at IBD from Vandy as well.

Jun 30, 2010

LSE. You are taking a year off and not earning anything. Placement should be your #1 priority. Having said that, LSE will provide you a much better shot at the kind of opportunities you are looking for. You should go there and get a job at a global bank. Once you have the job, try for an internal transfer after 1 year.

Oct 24, 2010

Some concerns about LSE A&F:

1) Will the "accounting" portion of this degree hinder me from obtaining certain types of jobs, such as trading? If I do end up choosing this program, I am planning on taking all finance courses and just one accounting course - corporate financial reporting.

2) With the current decline in Europe, is the LSE brand / studying in London truly worth the added cost in regards to future career prospects? Does anyone know how placement is for the current class?

Any additional input is welcome...

Oct 24, 2010

....anyone?

Jul 12, 2010

vanderbilt? is that a state school? not really a target

LSE hands down nice job of the admit

Oct 24, 2010

Someone has said before that the MS program within LSE is not an issue, LSE is a target and will be recruited as such.

Vanderbilt is a private school, well regarded in the US. Their MBA program is what, T30 or so. MSF program has been around for a while, places pretty well. I would go with LSE simply because of it's reputation.

Jun 29, 2010

I hope you were joking metal.