Is D.C. A Cool/Fun Place to Be? All Input Welcome

Lookin at moving to D.C., specifically around the Navy Yard/Eastern Market/Capitol Hill area. I'm wondering if there are a lot of young financiers/consultants in D.C. and if it's a fun place to live (specifically Southeast). I know that Adams Morgan and Dupont Circle are both pretty fun places but due to D.C.'s shitty metro those areas take about 50 minutes to get to from Southeast.

I'm just tryina live in an area where I can stumble from my apartment to a dive bar or rooftop beergarden and back again without getting shot. My hobbies include sports, drinking outside with my boys and crushing box. If anyone's got any information about popular bars/things to do around S.E. DC I'd love to hear it.

Preesh,

MJ The Yeet God

Comments (67)

Jan 14, 2018

plenty of shit to do in DC. it's a very transient, young professionals driven demographic - many people are in grad school or just starting their careers off in law or policy or nonprofit as you'd expect in DC. so not too hard to meet people and hook up assuming you have any game. that said, everyone talks politics and many areas are a bit pretentious since everybody is so educated and qualified - or so they think - and/or have well-connected families.

Jan 15, 2018

Damn I like the sound of that. It gives me an edge because all the hot chicks working on Capitol Hill who come from rich families will wanna go out with a rich dude and not those other broke jokers working in policy. YEET!

Jan 14, 2018

cool...leading with (the perception of) your money. you'll fit right in!

Jan 16, 2018

Money is largely meaningless in D.C. dating scene since the girls are mostly college educated with their own jobs and money, and many of them are from upper-middle class or higher families. They don't need our money. :(

Jan 14, 2018

DC isn't that cool, but I heard AC is...

I believe NASA will be calling us soon.!

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Jan 15, 2018

My first job placed me in DC. Didn't like it at all. I lived on the metro in Northern Virginia. I asked to be placed in NYC, but had to wait a year.

Some people love DC. There is something about it that glitters to others.

I'm not a huge fan at all getting ambushed by political discussion that I have no care at all about, like sitting at a house party and things get heated about 'this week in politics'.

But, some people just are situated there and happy. My brother was there for over a decade in Foxhall and I guess he liked it.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jan 15, 2018

I really appreciate you trying to add some input man, but after seeing this

Isaiah_53_5:

I'm pretty much just gonna have to stop you there and call your input invalid

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Jan 15, 2018
MJ The Yeet God:

I really appreciate you trying to add some input man, but after seeing this

Isaiah_53_5:

I'm pretty much just gonna have to stop you there and call your input invalid

haha

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee

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Jan 15, 2018

I have worked in the DC area for over 3 years. Ironically I don't run into any political chat, but that must be my crowed. The area is great, good stuff to do. It's not "a big city" in the NY sense, but that can be nice at times.

Jan 15, 2018

I did a summer internship there in IB. DC is very much a "company town" and I always felt that there were very few people who were really outside of that. Most consultants seem to be in the federal practice and a lot of private sector employers are heavily government related e.g. defense contractors and law firms. I imagine it's gotten better in the half decade plus, but I always felt the city was set up for tourists and federal employees. Case in point the metro closed at midnight during the week and 2 on weekends. Some people love it, but with the high COL, crime and low quality of life I'd rank it poorly as either a Mid-Atlantic or Southeastern City.

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Jan 15, 2018

People are still just as heavily involved in federal consulting/federally related jobs. The cost of living has up, but the crime in DC has gone down. I lived there from 2012-2016 and interned there last summer. It's changed a lot since then.

Mar 4, 2018

What companies have internships/IB jobs in DC?

Jan 15, 2018

Was there for bit over the summer.
Nightlife was awful compared to NY -
Was at one decent place called Heist Night Club, there was some pretty hot chicks there.
Some girl had a table beside us, they had some life size bottle of Henessey, which i started chugging. Got with her and then passed out in a uber lol.

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Jan 15, 2018

YEET!

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Jan 16, 2018

Born and raised in metro DC and rarely run into political discussions. In fact, I'm close friends with two inter-partisan couples. Not really sure I understand the fear of everything being political conversation here.

From what I can tell, DC is a quite distant to NYC in nightlife but I've lived throughout the US and I'd put the dc metro area up against almost any other city in America. There are endless things to do and endless opportunities to succeed in life.

Jan 17, 2018
Dances with Dachshunds:

Born and raised in metro DC and rarely run into political discussions. In fact, I'm close friends with two inter-partisan couples. Not really sure I understand the fear of everything being political conversation here.

From what I can tell, DC is a quite distant to NYC in nightlife but I've lived throughout the US and I'd put the dc metro area up against almost any other city in America. There are endless things to do and endless opportunities to succeed in life.

You rarely run into political discussions!?!?!?

head explodes

Jan 16, 2018
Ricky Sargulesh:
Dances with Dachshunds:

Born and raised in metro DC and rarely run into political discussions. In fact, I'm close friends with two inter-partisan couples. Not really sure I understand the fear of everything being political conversation here.

From what I can tell, DC is a quite distant to NYC in nightlife but I've lived throughout the US and I'd put the dc metro area up against almost any other city in America. There are endless things to do and endless opportunities to succeed in life.

You rarely run into political discussions!?!?!?

head explodes

It's counter-intuitive, but the idea that you can't get through the day in D.C. without talking politics is essentially wrong. The vast majority of people have nothing to do with Washington politics.

Jan 15, 2018

I would advise living closer to Dupont/Logan Circle/14th Street and U Street in NW. SE area is flooded with government workers while NW feels a lot different. I miss living there

Jan 15, 2018

Did a SA stint in NY and now living in D.C., where I'm from originally anyway. D.C. is a great city but imo everything pales in comparison to NY nightlife. In NY I would head to a divebar after work with a few friends expecting to take it easy and next thing I knew it'd be 4 A.M. and I'd be on someones rooftop doing blow with a group of Citi traders I'd never met before.

D.C. is more of meeting up with friends I went to High School with and getting drunk on someone's rooftop pool all day then watching a Caps/Nats game at one of the stadiums. A bit mellower. As someone from D.C. I also feel like we all clump together with people we've known all our lives when we go out, as opposed to NY where everyone is always down to hang out with a new group.

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Jan 16, 2018

As someone who has spent significant time in NYC and lives in DC (specifically the areas OP mentioned), this is basically spot on. DC is a hard place to expand your social circles, especially if you don't work in politics. The people in their 20s that end up enjoying it the most went to high school or college in the DMV and had ready-made social circles.

Some of my friends that are more social and have had a positive experience in DC live in areas like Shaw, AdMo, and Columbia Heights, but DC is small enough that you can get to these areas pretty easily. The Metro is ass but it has good connectivity to downtown. Loads of pretty good bars in the Capitol Hill/Eastern Market area. Navy Yard is newer, so the bars are not amazing and are only worth going to during Nats games. I've heard Top of the Yard is dope despite being in a Hampton Inn.

Needless to say, pretty relieved that my time in DC is almost over.

Gimme the loot

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Apr 24, 2018

This is true. As someone who went to a school somewhat close to here, most of the people I hang out with are from my college, but I've noticed that people that move here for work post-grad usually socialize with alumni from their schools.

Beyond group meetups, a lot of people (mostly younger professionals that don't make a lot of money, i.e. federal employees, nonprofits, grad students, etc.) end up living in group houses of 4+ people and meet people that way, but that's only fun for 1-2 years after graduating and not a lot of neighborhoods in DC are particularly conducive to that.

The U St/14th corridors have solid bars, but increasingly Shaw, Bloomingdale, and around Union Market are getting some interesting bars and restaurants. The food scene is alright in DC, with some ok ethnic places like Ethiopian, but for others you'll need to venture out into Rockville (Maryland) or into Virginia.

If you're a fan of outdoors activities, there are a bunch of parks and trails, and about 2-3 hours away you got Shenandoah National Park and Massanutten which are great. If you want to get really experimental, you can head into Baltimore. Annapolis is pretty tame and nice for a walk and crab cakes.

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Jan 16, 2018

Moved over to DC last year from Australia. Would agree with the general consensus here that unless your in politics it's not really that exciting. It's mainly a town where a lot of small-town folk come to as it's the "most-intense city" they can handle. I've met a lot of people from various southern/mid-west towns I've never heard off.

Most of the consultants I've met our Federal. E.g. our firm only hired 4 commercial/private-sector consultants in my intake and I think it was like double digits federal.

Also DC nightlife is shit, Good thing is it's close to NY so I occasionally go up there on weekends. Also a very liberal/left-wing city so take from that what you may with some people generally being quite stuck up.

Great place to have a family/relax, as a young man GET OUT lol. It does have a lot of quality free museums, and several arts/cultural events each month which are actually pretty good if your into that.

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Jan 14, 2018

I'm not a big fan of DC but I am a big fan of AC.....

Jan 16, 2018

i lived in dc my first year out of college like 7 years ago.

I am thinking about going back. Most of the industry I have seen is catered towards the federal government.

I did feel like an outsider as one who is not involved in Federal Government/Cap Hill activities but YMMV. I like that it feels like a big city and I live NoVA

Jan 16, 2018

DC is like a fake NYC.

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Jan 16, 2018

Currently live in DC and born & raised in Northern Virginia. DC can be a fun city and specifically the Navy Yard area has a ton of new developments, but tbh there isn't AS much to do around there when it's not nice out since Nats Park and the waterfront brings out a lot of people to that area. In the winter it can be kinda dead. If I were you I'd look into Adams Morgan, Dupont, or 14th/U street areas. Never felt unsafe in these areas. Shaw is also a good spot to look but there are some areas there where you might feel unsafe at night but nothing too bad in my opinion. Some areas of Arlington (Courthouse, Clarendon, Rosslyn) are almost like neighborhoods of DC with the proximity to everything and you can get a little more bang for your buck there and those areas are extremely safe with some good bars/restaurants and outdoor space.
Yeah a lot of the jobs are based around the govt and that can get kind of annoying but there's plenty of people who either don't have work related to the govt or do but don't want to talk about that crap outside of work.

If you have any specifics let me know.

Jan 16, 2018

I think people really miss out by living in D.C. proper because a lot of people will ultimately choose to not have a car when living there. If you care about anything other than getting drunk and being able to walk home, having a car and getting out into the D.C. metro area at large where there are countless things to do and see is key. Out in the suburbs (and even in D.C. proper off the main drags) are things as disparate as indoor parkour, rock climbing gyms, go-karting, vineyards, really good hiking, affordable comedy clubs, escape rooms, and even indoor skydiving.

I think people are comparing NYC nightclubs to D.C. nightclubs. Yeah, it's no contest--NYC has better nightclubs. But I think people need to get outside their "getting too drunk to breathe" mindset and enjoy what the D.C. region has to offer. If you can imagine it, the D.C. area probably has it.

Jan 16, 2018

Very true. The outdoor activities within an hour or 2 of DC are amazing. Tons of vineyards just 45 minutes out, Shenandoah National Park is great, the Potomac river further out of the city where it's not as gross, Lake Anna, Great Falls, tons of breweries, some skiing within an hour or so. Would definitely recommend having a car even if you live in DC proper (if your budget allows) because DC can feel pretty small at times and it's nice to get out.

Jan 15, 2018
Dances with Dachshunds:

I think people need to get outside their "getting too drunk to breathe" mindset

Fuck that.

(I still really appreciate your input)

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Jan 17, 2018

hey man, you forgot to mention there's a topgolf right by the indoor skydiving.

"It is not our circumstance that controls us, but our thoughts that control our circumstance." -James Allen

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Jan 16, 2018
champagnepaki:

hey man, you forgot to mention there's a topgolf right by the indoor skydiving.

I was going to mention Topgolf but blanked out on the name and didn't feel like looking it up.

Jan 15, 2018

How about the H-Street Corridor neighborhood? @Dances with Dachshunds" @crosbysucks @Gratisfaction @LReed @TrackBack @PrestigeCaller

Jan 16, 2018

A few friends of mine live in a townhouse south of H Street. Really nice living situation and they pay a very reasonable price. H Street, as well as NOMA, is rapidly gentrifying, with a lot of apartments that look the same (same thing can be said about Navy Yard). Only spent time there at night and at parties/bars, but it is more lowkey than AdMo and U Street nightlife. If I had to bet, it's going to become a more popular nightlife spot in coming years FWIW.

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Jan 16, 2018

Agreed with the above. Not NoMa isn't considered as fun as the other areas mentioned but is generally cheaper and has a good amount of things to do. Getting much better as development shifts to the eastern part of the city I think since areas like Adams Morgan and Dupont and U street are pretty well built up and pricey.

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Jan 15, 2018

That area is dope, a lot of sweet bars, it's just that some of the bars and streets nearby get really dark really quick.

As for the whole debate about politics being overbearing, I guess if you're using Tinder to try and meet other single people with no friends then you'd probably run into a lot of overbearing liberal chicks, but no one I hang out with really gives a shit about any of that.

The politicos and the gays are definitely really loud about their agenda but I don't see why you would be running with those circles if your objective is to hook up with hot girls and bro out.

Jan 16, 2018

There is a strong "work hard, play hard" attitude in DC, plenty of fun. The night club is like crazy, and pubs are all awesome.

I had the most fun living in DC a few years back.

Jan 14, 2018

DC ppl definitely stay current with the news and politics but I wouldn't say its overbearing.

Jan 14, 2018

Get it ...DC..current..

I'm clever

Jan 15, 2018

I refuse to acknowledge your puns

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Jan 21, 2018

best thing about DC is hot Hill interns who are from SEC top tier sororities.

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Jan 15, 2018

^^^^^^^^^^^ Facts

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Jan 22, 2018

Georgetown is always fun. Not in Georgetown but around the DC area, check out Bangkok gardens, killer Thai restaurant

Carl Van Loon
Van Loon & Associates

Jan 23, 2018

Since you said all input was welcome, I was only in downtown DC for a week (not for vacation but for an academic program), but the city seemed to be a great mix between the fast-paced culture of New York City and the relaxed culture of places in the South like Dallas.

Though I only spent one week in DC, I wouldn't mind going back again and possibly working there in the future.

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Apr 24, 2018

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Apr 24, 2018

within 1 hour? don't move to fredericksburg, please. this depends on when you want kids. if I were not going to have kids and just looking for a place for 2-3 years, I'd suck it up and live in a tiny place in georgetown, great restaurants, decent public transit, and super fun. if you want a family, arlington, hoodbridge, stafford, alexandria, chantilly, they're all good, when I was growing up NoVA was the best school system in the state, so you definitely want to pick based on that if you want kids.

edit: you won't be able to get a 3br/2ba in georgetown for that. probably a studio but that's why I said suck it up for a smaller place

Apr 24, 2018

hmm... @"DCDepository" thoughts?

Apr 24, 2018

$2600 an hour outside of McLean? Yes, you can have a palace. You'll regret it everyday as you move through DC traffic, where your commute will be considerably longer than 1 hour.

McLean is for people with families, congressmen and retirees; it's not the best place for a young guy/gal. A place in Arlington for that price range is possible and can be made easier with roommates, but not likely for a 3BR (maybe a 1BR). There's the new Silver Line in McLean which is a pain, given the increased traffic flow and the fact that it can be tough to get to a number of the office buildings from the Metro without being mauled by cars. It's still easier to get in/out by car (I'm not necessarily saying that it's less annoying, though).

For fun and a cheaper price for a place (and for areas where young people live), check out Columbia Heights, U Street, Arlington (not Ballston/Clarendon/Courthouse, that's expensive, but some of the up-and-coming areas), maybe Falls Church City. There are lots of options, but avoid Tysons at all costs (traffic makes it not worth it). Good luck!

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Apr 24, 2018

PM me and we can discuss, but I literally just stepped out of a pricing meeting for my company's building. We are going to be renovating one of our buildings in Alexandria--we just discussed our 3BR/2BA rent. Fully renovated with granite countertops, a new balcony with ceiling to floor glass, in-unit W/D, and, depending on the place in the building, a view of Washington, D.C.--$2,500 to $2,600. Probably a 25 minute drive to McLean. But it won't be renovated for another 6 months or so.

I would look at Reston/Reston Town Center. I'd bet you could find a nicely renovated condo for well under $3,000/month in Reston--15-20 minutes from McLean. Ashburn or Sterling would probably have what you're looking for.

It depends on what you're looking for--are you looking at a 3BR because you have a wife and are looking to have a baby or because you want roommates? If the latter then look to Alexandria or Silver Spring or S Arlington; if the former then I would look to Reston, Fairfax, Ashburn. You're going to want to move your price point higher if looking for a nice 3BR in N Arlington, NW DC, McLean/Tysons, Old Town Alexandria, or Bethesda.

EDIT: you did say young married couple. Not sure why you need the third bedroom unless you are looking at having a kid sometime soon, but if that's a necessity there are a ton of older houses--rough houses--you could rent for about that in McLean/Vienna. For $2,600/month or less you could get a really nice 2BR at Reston Town Center. Again, if you keep it to 2BR, you could definitely rent a really nice unit in McLean or in Ballston, Clarendon, Court House, Rossyln, Bethesda, Fairfax City, Falls Church City, Del Ray, Old Town Alexandria, Shirlington. For a 2BR unit, $2,600 is a real sweet spot where you can live in a very nice unit in the very best neighborhoods.

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Apr 24, 2018

Thanks for the replies, I really appreciate the advice.

I could make a 2 BR work, since I don't *plan* on having kids, so it looks like the $2,600 price point could work. This is a good reference point as I start negotiating comp.

Thanks again!