Is target MSc Finance still possible in my situation? (Bocconi, HEC, LSE, HSG....)

Hello everyone :)

My profile:
- 22 years old student from a small, poor European country (but non EU!)
- I will graduate with a 2:1 degree from a top 5 university in the German speaking area (German GPA 2.2/5 - but I am still in the top 10% of my cohort, US equivalent I guess 3.2/3.3 out of 4)
- GMAT mock exams 690-710, I will take the test at the beginning of March

Work experience:
- 6 months Corporate Investment Management (one of the largest banks in the country),
- 4 Months Big 4 Deal Advisory

Extracurriculars: member of a finance-related student society, charity work, NGO etc...
Languages: English, German, Russian (all three C1 certificate) + mother tongue

The reason for my low GPA is very simple: One year before the start of my bachelor, in the last year of high school, I did not know a single word of German (In my last year of high school I began to learn German) After the high school graduation in my home country I immediately started to study in a new language and country. In addition, I worked during my whole studies (20h/week in order to finance my studies + 2 full time finance related internships stated above)

I will apply to:
Bocconi MSc Finance
HEC MIF
LSE Finance (?) + Acc&Fin
HSG MBF + MaccFin
FSFM MSc Finance

Considering my profile, what are realistic options? Could you recommend any other school? I'm wondering if the admission team will take into account my specific situation? Or they simply look at the numbers on the paper to see if I fit into their requirements?

My goal > IB (London, Frankfurt, Zurich). Basically, I'm doing all this to get IB interview.

I have noticed that people that get hired out of school like Bocconi to London are usually Italian for their respective country desks. That fact + my rather average bachelor + non EU.... do I stand a chance even with a target master and all the information stated above (+ CFA degree at the end of my master)?

My cousin who works for BB bank in Frankfurt is very skeptic about London (Brexit) and she told me that I should not risk and go to a country where I don't speak the local language (Bocconi), where I have only one chance for SA role (UK, FRA).... and that the best option for me is FSFM in Frankfurt (to take advantage of the fact that I know the language and local culture and that the process of obtaining a work permit in Germany is much easier than in other EU countries + FSFM is very generous with scholarships).

As an alternative HSG, it is very difficult to get a work permit in CH afterwards, but not impossible with HSG brand. Lower tuition fees, very attractive Swiss banking jobs with a good work-life balance + if I do not succeed in Switzerland I will have a big chance in Germany considering very strong brand of HSG University.

Thanks in advance!

 
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Your profile isn't bad but may be tough for some of the London uni. A big thing I don't think you may have considered is if you're pushing for work in Zurich or Frankfurt (German speaking places) you should aim for more schools in the DACH region which will be well known for firms in those countries. Example schools include Mannheim, WU in Vienna, HEC Lausanne, and Cologne. These may not be the strongest for cities outside the DACH region but after 2-4 years of work, if you want to move cities your experience will count way more than the MFin you did years ago. Even if they did look at your MFin as a big component after 2-4 years, all of the above schools (except maybe HEC Lausanne) are still considered pretty good in Europe.

 

Really solid profile, much better than 70% of profiles that get into the Mscs you mentioned. 100% youll get into all of the programs except for lse, which might be harder.

Go to HEC, which will def will guarantee interviews in London and in Paris. Im of the opinion that brexit wont happen or that it will be really soft. If you think it will have severe consequences, though, Paris will be def absorbing the most finance jobs from London. Def more than Frankfurt (which is shitty to live in), Milano or Madrid. So HEC is the best bet.

 

I would say go for the UK ( imperial finance, lse finanace related courses or you can even try lbs as I think in your case GMAT is what can sell you, especially for LBS!).

Not sure how to end up in IB if you are not an eu national but I think it is possible, if you want to stay here, but I would then try to get into LBS with your GMAT. Im sure they will take you. Email them and ask how you can apply. They do great finance masters courses, and after that you should be able to get a job ( networking is extreme there and it is a target of the target!) ... even in the UK despite your nationality.

I would not stay in Germany ( i have a German passport myself but I am from Eastern Europe too ) especially, if your GMAT is that high and let's say if you get into lbs ( or the other two for example) .

 
Abraham1997:
Hello everyone :)

My profile: - 22 years old student from a small, poor European country (but non EU!) - I will graduate with a 2:1 degree from a top 5 university in the German speaking area (German GPA 2.2/5 - but I am still in the top 10% of my cohort, US equivalent I guess 3.2/3.3 out of 4) - GMAT mock exams 690-710, I will take the test at the beginning of March

Work experience: - 6 months Corporate Investment Management (one of the largest banks in the country),
- 4 Months Big 4 Deal Advisory

Extracurriculars: member of a finance-related student society, charity work, NGO etc... Languages: English, German, Russian (all three C1 certificate) + mother tongue

The reason for my low GPA is very simple: One year before the start of my bachelor, in the last year of high school, I did not know a single word of German (In my last year of high school I began to learn German) After the high school graduation in my home country I immediately started to study in a new language and country. In addition, I worked during my whole studies (20h/week in order to finance my studies + 2 full time finance related internships stated above)

I will apply to: Bocconi MSc Finance HEC MIF LSE Finance (?) + Acc&Fin HSG MBF + MaccFin FSFM MSc Finance

Considering my profile, what are realistic options? Could you recommend any other school? I'm wondering if the admission team will take into account my specific situation? Or they simply look at the numbers on the paper to see if I fit into their requirements?

My goal > IB (London, Frankfurt, Zurich). Basically, I'm doing all this to get IB interview.

I have noticed that people that get hired out of school like Bocconi to London are usually Italian for their respective country desks. That fact + my rather average bachelor + non EU.... do I stand a chance even with a target master and all the information stated above (+ CFA degree at the end of my master)?

My cousin who works for BB bank in Frankfurt is very skeptic about London (Brexit) and she told me that I should not risk and go to a country where I don't speak the local language (Bocconi), where I have only one chance for SA role (UK, FRA).... and that the best option for me is FSFM in Frankfurt (to take advantage of the fact that I know the language and local culture and that the process of obtaining a work permit in Germany is much easier than in other EU countries + FSFM is very generous with scholarships).

As an alternative HSG, it is very difficult to get a work permit in CH afterwards, but not impossible with HSG brand. Lower tuition fees, very attractive Swiss banking jobs with a good work-life balance + if I do not succeed in Switzerland I will have a big chance in Germany considering very strong brand of HSG University.

Thanks in advance!

I would say to take the actual test before any kind of plan/speculation.

 

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