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I've ran one and won't disclose my time. Sounds like you should be giving us monkeys the advice.
I am really flattered by the comments, I am by no standards elite, just a regular guy who likes running. I have been on the Letsrun message board for years, and those times are "slow"...so it all depends...
If anyone needs advise sure, thing is in running there is no silver bullet...training and putting in the miles is the only way to improve.
So I am currently putting in the miles about 45+ per week right now, Last 3 weeks have been 54 miles - 14 miles (+ 3 ski days) - 51 miles (was feeling really sluggish and am now ramping up calories to allow me to feel better - to add I also fit in a 16 mile bike ride during this week too). I should be able to hit 57-60 miles this week.
Was there a point where you felt like you broke through and was just able to start running faster. I have been mixing in speed work, but I feel stuck around the 7:40 mark for my fast miles. (trying to qualify for Boston in the next 1.5 years)
Shit, that's pretty elite. I recall reading that only about 2% of NYC marathon finishers finish under 3 hours and that includes a fair number of pro athletes.
I think if you look at consistent runners, Sub 3 is considered the Peak of the Work Warrior / amateur runner and Elite really starts around the sub 2:25-2:30 mark.
I can barely run a mile, any running tips for someone with a heart problem and shinsplints?
First, get that checked by a doctor, heart problem is no joke, even professional runners/football (soccer) players have died while competing. TGo with someone who understands a bit of sports, not just some fat doctor who says "running is bad for your knees".
Shinsplits is mainly due to shoes and running form (gait). For the first thing you can check out at your local running store if your shoes are correct for your type of running. To improve running for try to shorten your stride, you probably overstride and land heavily on your heels, which causes a lot of impact to your shins...if you land softer it should go away...it will take time tho.
so to fix shinsplits, see if my shoes fit correctly but how do you check your stride/heel? see a physio?
Wow nice 26.2 time, thats legit.
How does one 'run' commute to work? Do you keep your entire wardrobe in the office?
Thanks.
I keep 2-3 suits at the office, couple black shoes and a ton of ties. Shirts are a bit harder tho, I come with them on uber once a week or my wife brings them to me at work.
Its actually pretty simple once you have everything at the office. I wake up at around 6:30, take a dump, drink some water and put my wallet and phone in a running backpack (an Ultimate Direction, really small and confortable for running) and off I go at around 7. I arrive at work at around 7:35 and take my things to the gym, which is 2 blocks away. At 8 I am back at the office and ready for the day. After work its the same thing, but I take my dirty clothes in the backpack, otherwise my whole office would stink.
I should do dis. I drive a wide body tahoe with a slow leak in the gas tank. I burn up like a quarter a tank each way to work.
Which ultimate direction pack are you using? I’m currently looking to get a new one for a similar purpose.
I do this too. Combining a commute with exercise is a really efficient use of time
Just ran one last week. Ran a 3:04, was training for a sub 3 time but was still satisfied with it. My PB is 2:47 in 2015.
Which marathon you running in October?
I work in Latam, so I am running a small one in Viña del Mar, Chile...flat, fast and at sea level. Last year I hit 3:00:20 there which was quite frustrating.
Damnnn so close
Do you guys enjoy running marathons? It's not particularly difficult nor is it healthy to do. Just seems like a waste of time.
I actually do enjoy running marathons. Difficult is relative, I ran 3:28 with a running stroller 4 weeks ago and it was a walk in the park. For me sub 3 is quite a challenge.
I agree that is not the most healthy or balanced type of exercise, but there are a lot of worse things in the world.
What do you enjoy about it? Do you listen to music or podcasts? Or do you zen out in your head?
Not difficult? It Seems super hard.
After a moderate fitness level, you can pretty much run indefinitely without a lot of stress. It's just boring. People do 100 and 200 mile races. Running 32 or whatever isn't physically impressive. If it took you a lot of training to work up to, then that's more mentally impressive than the running itself is physically impressive.
I enjoy trail / mountain running because it's an escape and I like nature. It feels like the polar opposite of my day job which is basically sitting at a desk and moving numbers around a computer screen.
Personally, I find road racing a little less enjoyable but there's a different kind of satisfaction in hitting the precise time splits I'm aiming for and executing everything perfectly to push myself to the limit.
Train running is so cool. I'd love to live in a place where I could run some hilly trails. In Vibrams, of course ;)
I just wouldn't aim to do it for marathon distances. Jogging isn't good for you done chronically, but it has great cognitive benefits in lower doses and shouldn't hurt you if you're fit otherwise. You see those people jogging though who are out of shape and wearing $300 of spandex, terrible form, just look pained, maybe 50lbs overweight. I just want to stop them and be like, "Dude stop. Your head is in the right place and that's admirable, but let's get your diet in check and maybe take some brisk walks for a month and we'll ease into this running shit because all you're doing now is hurting yourself and building negative associations with exercise in your head."
I am running the Chicago Marathon in October. Not sure what i was thinking when I paid $195 to do it...
I haven't ran a marathon at all but I just finished my first 10k (Sporting life 10k) this weekend in an hour 1:00:34~ and I might do a half marathon in October (Scotiabank).
I've ran a few, but nowhere near the times you are posting. I'll usually just sign up for a marathon, print out a Hal Higdon and follow it without too much conviction for three months.
One thing that I would like to be able to accomplish in my lifetime is qualifying for The Boston Marathon. Any tips on going from "Casual Marathoner" to cracking 3:05?
running, a lot, getting used to run 50miles per week, and your time will improve alone. Dont look at the time/pace look at your miles. Once you can run 15 miles day after day, think about your pace, try to run faster on smaller distances and than increase the distance whilst keeping your pace.
Is Hal Higdon the way to go? Running my first marathon in Nov and was planning on using it but haven't actually heard anyone that has.
Depends what you are aiming for. There is no set way to go for running.
You should get in good mileage and work on lactic acid. Boston Marathon has a huge hill at approx. mile 20 (Heartbreak Hill) and that really does start to kill. There is nothing quite like alternating between a nice distance run and some tempo-type activities to get your pace up. Also, practice hitting that pace for shorter runs first and slowly work up the distance.
I have run in marathons but I do not do it competitively
Would love to get inputs on good training programmes for marathons. I've run three half marathons, but never anything above that, but am planning to give it a try.
Hal Higdon is ok for recreational runners who want to finish ok and dont want to run high mileage or hard workouts. If you want to get faster Daniels or Pfitzinger is the way to go (which assumes doing a lot more miles and more specific workouts).
Im my case, volume (miles per week) is the biggest factor to getting fast, thankfully I have never been too injury prone and enjoy doing a lot of easy miles.
Great, thanks a lot. Will take a closer look at the ones you mentioned.
Great times! I'm trying to work towards sub-3. I don't think I'm that far off, but too distracted by ultras at the moment - hoping to run CCC or UTMB in the next couple of years so all my time is spent training for qualifying races, doing an 85km next month. Running 50-60 mpw at the moment.
Started doing run commutes recently and it's really helped trying to find the time to run mid-week. Only thing is my office doesn't have a shower, so I can only run commute in the evenings which is annoying.
What kind of workouts did you do to improve your speed to go sub-3, and how much weekly mileage were you doing to run your 2:54?
P.S. The Letsrun message boards can be a seriously toxic place.
I did a lot of volume, around 120-130 km/week (75ish/mpw). Did 1 long run, 1 medium long run and 1 tempo per week. Raced every few couple weeks (mostly 10ks). My half pr is 1:22:40, which is pretty much in line with my marathon pr.
I have a lot of workouts in Strava (not all, given garmin connects problems) but if you PM me I can give you my link.
Damn, that's serious volume. I assume you had to do quite a few twice-a-days? Did you do interval stuff, or just rely on the tempo workout for speed?
I plan on running the NYC marathon this year. Any suggestions for preparation with respect to injury prevention? I've done a couple half marathons, but this will be my first full. Fish oils, lots of stretching/yoga, good running shoes are what I know.
Any other tips?
Build a base of easy running, then start doing faster stuff. 26 miles is a long way, and endurance is the king.
If you have time, drills can help running form which can translate into less injuries.
Finally, if you do follow a plan, be open to adjusting it on how you are feeling. If you get sick or injured there is no benefit to running 15 miles the next day, it will take a lot out of you and it will take a lot of time to recover. This is especially important on the last 2 weeks, since you have already put it 99% of the work and can really screw up your marathon and have very little go gain by pushing too hard on the last few weeks.
For injury prevention, I don't think there is anything that beats warming up right, eating a good meal, and getting enough rest. Make sure to do dynamics and get in form drills to warm up muscles and tendons. Plenty of mileage leading up to the race and tapering before it should get your muscles, lungs, and heart ready for the race. Finally, if you feel anything start to hurt during the race, stop and give it a rest. Walk a little and do some stretching. It's not worth getting seriously injured over.
I am training for a marathon right now. Aiming for somewhere near 2:55. I do not think it is unattainable since I am only one year removed from running high school track/cross country at a fairly competitive level (9:55 or so 3200).
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