http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44282514/ns/world_new…
Why is it okay that we can send aircraft carriers and jets halfway around the world but we can't bomb the fuck out of some guys in trucks in the country next door to us and get rid of this fucking festering problem ? People say there will be a power vacuum and someone else will rise inevitably but why not hedge it with saying you will get fucking blown up by a laser guided hellfire missle from a predator drone you won't ever fucking see or hear. Has anyone actually gone to Mexico anytime in the past?
Legalize dope.
Problem solved.
exactly...but why wont the politicians? because the american govt and banks support these fucking cartels with arms and money laundering ops.....the us govt is despicable.
Actually, it's more because the population is just plain retarded and doesn't understand basic economics. You can already see evidence of that on this forum.
I hate drugs, don't smoke, and only drink occasionally, and even I'm for the legalization of absolutely fucking everything. Why? Because that's what makes the most sense from a cost/benefit analysis.
Let the economy grow and innovate, and crack down hard on the criminals.
Problem solved.
(No offense, Eddie.)
B/c they are a luxury to have. When you're the big bully on the block you need a weak ass, all bark, no bite mutt to "stand up" to you. Ask most policy people and they'll tell you that letting the USSR disintegrate was a bad move. Having a weak enemy around let's you go about your otherwise objectionable business in peace.
Very insightful perspective. Just goes to show how silly those fear mongers on FOX News are.
Legalization is probably the best way to handle the problem as it would kill their money supply.
Flesh, for them to grow to the point that they can actually crack down on the criminals, successfully, it would take decades. I honestly do not see a realistic option that doesn't involve a lot of collateral damage, short of legalizing marijuana as it's something like 60% or more of their business. I think I read 60% somewhere, although it could have been 80%, I can't remember exactly but know it was high.
Midas, I agree that it is good to have an enemy like that around, I just wish it wasn't right next door. It kills an otherwise decent place to visit for a cheap vacation. If vacations were actually cheap anymore with our POS $ these days. My buddy went on a cruise along the Pacific and they didn't even stop in Cabo as planned since it was too dangerous. This was like a couple months ago. When tourist places are "unsafe", you know you really got a problem.
I know what you mean but ever considered why it's so cheap?
I believe drugs should be legalised, but criminalised in location, so you can take them in your own home nowhere else. Incentivise drug companies to find less damaging versions and voila.
This is ridiculous
Midas: How could we have not "let" the USSR disintegrate? They could never upkeep their system - the special forces over time became less and less willing to put down protestors towards the end of the regime, where as they had killed tens of millions in the early days. Their business practices sucked so hard that they would probably require a significant portion of our gdp to fix them legitimately. We could probably have attacked them directly, or indirectly through another country, which may cause a surge in nationalism and frugality/production like WW2, but it doesn't seem to me there were many options on the table for keeping the soviet's system from coming apart under its own weight. Not to mention the 1984 like comparisons.
Also, legalizing drugs won't get rid of the cartels. Thats a major revenue stream, but they work in kidnapping, extortion, prostitution and contract killings as well. The real problem isn't even that there are prohibitions on drugs, because if that were true, then we would see cartels in Canada too. The problem is the inherently immoral nature of Mexicans.
EDIT: I had a long, thoughtful answer but deleted it. Here's the skinny:
Problem solved.
As for the USSR: perfect analogy. We sent them food and supplies before, during, and after the cold war. The Afghan proxy war was our only real offensive effort, and before that we had been merely 'managing' the problem....much like we do with our Bullshit war on drugs
WTF man, what makes you think that that is acceptable to say, even on an anonymous internet message board?
I hope you don't fall from that ivory tower you're sitting in and break your damn neck, you prick.
Get over yourself man. Some cultures are corrupt and immoral. Deal with it. You look at a country where their presidents, Jose Lopez Portillo and Miguel de la Madrid, were ALLOWED by their peers and people to loot something between 3-5 billion dollars each, and tell me something isn't seriously fucked up. Carlos Salinas de Gortari made off with something like twice that. You say that I'm the one sitting in the damn ivory tower, but then you say that you can't make moral presumptions about societies, or people individually? What a joke. I know good people who have come from Mexico to start a new life here, and you're spitting on them by suggesting that they had the courage to pull themselves away from a system in which the mordida is the only way ahead?
To survive the predatory behavior of those at the top, those below adopt certain habits. Business skills in Mexico consist primarily of knowing people who make the rules and doing what is necessary to get along with them.
If you don't think that policies of governments can corrupt a society, I suggest you talk to some of the older people from the USSR, or just look at modern day China. And I never said we couldn't be like the Mexicans or the Soviets if things didn't take a shitty turn for the worse. Were all animals, and a lot of us are only being held in check by laws that keep us from doing terrible things. If you negate that peoples behaviors and views change under different regimes that foster different policies though, you're just being completely ignorant of basic human psychology.
Its called an opportunity cost. The opportunity cost of crime is much higher for people in Canada than it is for people in Mexico. Canadians have more legitimate careers available to them then Mexicans, thus they are less likely to do them.
And yeah, legalize pot for Chist's sake. I don't even smoke it but we're putting people away for life for a fucking dime bag. This is a waste of everyone's time and resources.
legalization isnt going to help shit -- if you give them a larger market to make money and theyre already extorting normal businesses why do you think they would back off from their current tactics if they could corner the market by killing more?
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Isn't this exactly what has happened to the Netherlands? Not cartels, but mobsters getting a hold of these coffee shops and extorting them? Cartels would probably be more vicious if I had to put money on it.
Because if drugs were legal, the price of drugs would disintegrate almost overnight. The only reason there is any profit in drug dealing is the risk premium.
If everyone can manufacture coke in their garage, no one has to risk their life going to the wrong side of town, or worse.
When is this Puritan country ever going to learn that YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE MORALITY! If something feels good (and drugs definitely feel good) people are going to do it and they don't give a shit what you or anyone else thinks about it. And if you make that behavior illegal then the providers of it will become rich.
This. The price would fall to ridiculous levels as many people would be able to have access to, and wouldn't have to worry about the legal consequences of, trying to procure illegal substances. Much of the premium on drugs is due to the legal ramifications and risk associated with both selling and buying. If you remove that from the equation the price plummets. No cartel is going to go through the trouble when there is almost no profit margin.
Cut off the money supply, which legalization would do, and they are screwed. Would they probably find something else to do? Probably. However, I can't think of what would be able to provide the same type of profit.
I also agree that we are way too conservative here when it comes to drugs, sex, etc.
So they wouldn't have the same type of profit. So what? How does that make them any less dangerous? All it took for them to kill these people was a couple of gallons of gas and some small arms. These aren't huge operations. Anyone could do what these guys did with expenses being maybe ten gallons of gas and maybe a couple of bullets. So less than $50.
The problem isn't the drugs. Its that there doesn't exist the will in Mexico to not be involved in the cartels, plus the corrupt nature of Mexico and Mexicans in general, and the lack of political will to kill all the bad guys.
How are they going to be able to pay the lackeys though? They keep them in check and make it acceptable to do what they do because they pay. If they aren't generating any revenue they can't pay minions. I honestly believe that if you take away the money stream, and they continue to do the shizz they are, the locals will actually eat em alive. They are powerful because of money. Think of your typical cartel leader. They are powerful and have minions protecting them and doing their bidding because they pay them and the gunman has no other opportunity paying as highly as the cartel. Once he isn't getting paid he wont have any incentive to be a lackey.
Think of it from a banking context. We all put up with a lot because we are paid well enough to endure it. If all banking jobs paid a teacher's salary, I bet a majority would rather be teachers for the environment. Or if McDonalds paid like banking, more people would want to work at McDonalds.
Wow, again. Grow up, man.
Analogy: the powerful politician who neglects their kid and he grows up to be a shithead. That's us. Mexico is currently the shithead.....love the culture, hate the shitheads fucking it up.
Dude, could you read a little bit about prohibition? Violence surrounding the alcohol trade literally stopped overnight because the incentive evaporated. The problem isn't inherent in Mexico. Calderon started his own internal drug war and the deaths have spike since.
At the end of the day, history and basic economics is on my side with this.
Agree with Eddie/Something C
Legalization would not only shut down alot of this bullshit in Mexico, but it would also help curb the drug violence in our US cities.
If Monsanto develops the plants, Cali farmers grow it, and CVS distributes it. The drug dealers lose a huge chunk of money that they would have used to buy guns and influence. On top of this a bunch of previously non-taxed money will now generate tax revenue.
Completely agree with what you're saying, but will all respect, fuck Monsanto. And yes, tax the hell out of it and pay down some of our overwhelming debt.
Yup fuck that evil corporation feeding the world. Those fucking evil bastards how dare they!
I think that with the violence at the levels theyre at, the problem for unwillingness to police them comes from more than just the money aspect. I remember seeing this some times ago:
http://insightcrime.org/insight-latest-news/item/432-third-mexican-mayo…
More recently, this - a towns police force resigns because of the danger from the cartels.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-08-05/world/mexico.police.resign_1_police-…
People are scared of these groups, and there isn't the will to oppose them. I would be willing to guess that the margins would be less, but there would still be enough revenue from other streams to keep a number of employees full time. Take kidnapping for example:
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2009/feb/mexican-cartels-make-phoenix…
1000 Phoenix residents ransomed off in two years. What would the ransom be for these people? 20, 50k? So theyre probably getting a couple M/year from Phoenix residents alone. They could have easily robbed everyone in that casino, stolen all the casinos reserves etc. The possibilities are quite large - and they haven't even exploited the tourist areas that much, though those are on the rise. They could figure out how to survive; the mafias in the US were biggest during the prohibition, but they have managed to survive.
Legalize pot and it will stop 50% of their business for a short period of time, then the same people will adapt to the new situations and find a way to exploit something else. They may make more amounts of other illegal drugs and push those on our streets and society harder, converting pot heads to harder drugs. Legalize those harder drugs and you are asking for a world of hurt (as we discussed thoroughly in the other thread regarding legalization). Legalizing anything harder then weed is going to open doors that we don't want to be open.
Very little will be done to curb shit. Politicians want to cater to the hispanics and dropping bombs, putting up real walls, and deportation are all things that will get hispanics panties in a bunch. Arizona is racist for enforcing the laws? What a joke. Do you know what you get if you walk into Mexico without permission? 2 years locked up in a Mexican jail, fined, and deported for the FIRST offense.
There will be no real reform until Mexicans stop protesting in our streets for their 'rights' that we 'owe' them while waving the Mexican flag and start protesting in their streets for their country back. I am sick of everyone expecting America to solve the worlds problems and when we try we are fascist, racist, imperialists, etc. I am ready for America to make like a small business in California and flee for greener pastors .. .aka closing the boarders and saying "fuck you".
who will buy our guns if we eradicate them? the cruel irony is that we sell them most of their weapons anyway
Or just hand them over so we can "track" them. haha.
legalization
^ ^ ^ ^ He was talking about Monsanto not weed. :)
^ Yeah, sorry. Had to modify my post. Messed up the formatting
If you legalized pot, the drug problem would stop. They would make up for the lost profit the old fashioned way, stealing/mugging/burglary, kidnapping for ransom, etc. On the whole though, crime levels would go down, but don't expect utopia either.
It would be great for the US if drugs were legalized, but for Mexico it wouldn't be that monumental a change.
CIA agents are currently working as advisors in Mexico. Interpret that however youd like.
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i highly doubt everything would work as simply as everyone believes it would.
and i think the high worth drugs they are shipping back and forth and making the most money out of is not marijuana
Come on seriously. We tried this with alcohol. Prohibition does not work if the drug is still widely used despite being illegal. If the demand is there the criminal element will come up with the supply.
The violence comes in because you cannot have a judge enforce contracts on illegal drugs so you just shoot the guy who ripped you off.
When we legalized booze again the Chicago Mob lost tons of revenue and was never the same. Legalizing pot will not solve the problem but it is without question the best first step to take.
Issue #2 can not be negotiated past a certain point and violence then becomes the only solution. It IS a war. I have family and friends that worked at a very high level in South America for decades, in military/industrial and NGOs, and I know someone who was kidnapped by fighters and raised to be a terrorist [they were rescued after a few years]. The all say the same thing: you're dealing with people with no education or desire to do anything but what they're doing, and they're NOT going to get a job and become good citizens.
Also, these aren't a bunch of local wiseguy assholes wearing gold chains trying to be the next Gotti or whatever the fuck: they're hardened militants with almost no semblence of civilization, family, decency, or redeeming qualities. Kill them all, because if not they will continue to kill and attempt to subjugate everyone around them, and there is nothing that you can do to change this. They are even bringing the fight here, and it's a far more ingrained problem than even terrorism....and will become a bigger threat over the coming decade.
It is far and away two drugs that make up the overwhelming majority of business: marijuana, and cocaine, with marijuana the more important of the two. I don't think anyone that knows this problem well would say that legalizing it will end the violence, but it would definitely be a big step in the right direction and would reduce the violence substantially.
I put trying to legislate morality roughly on par with Michelle Bachmann's assertion that she can legislate gas prices. You just can't do it, and only idiots think you can. Economics clearly predicts what happens when you make drugs illegal, and has a clear prescription for alleviating the resulting ails (i.e. legalize everything). People refuse to listen, because they are idiots who don't do their homework. We deserve the government and society we have. Every country that has legalized drugs is better off because of that, look it up.
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Dude, we could end the drug problem by legalizing cocaine and marijuana. The revenues of the drug gangs would dry up overnight, thus there ability to distablize their country would decrease.
Anyone who thinks we can "solve" Mexico's problems with warfare is an idiot.
i wonder why youre monkey shat on for a third of your posts.
and yeah lets totally legalize opiates and take out the talibans cash crops and everything else, the world will be PERFECT then
Are you a troll? Every single economist or sociologist has advocated for legalization as a way to end the power of the gangs.
When you cut the supply of something you increase the price and THE INCENTIVE TO DO IT. If you were to legalize it, the price would go down and the people involved would have to pursue legitimate business ventures. Notice, American gangs stopped fighting over the ability to sell alcohol promptly after we ended prohibition. Why? Because the incentive to kill another person for the right to sell alcohol declined rapidly as the legitimate supply increased.
In the case of Marijuana and cocaine, American agricultural companies, the best in the world mind you, would be able to produce drugs far more efficiently than any gang of Mexicans ever could.
Illicit drugs killed 4500 people last year. Compare that to the 435 thousand who were killed by tobacco and 80 thousand killed by alcohol every year. Our drug war makes our legal establishment look like a farce because illicit drugs aren't even remotely as toxic, fatal and deadly as stuff you can legally buy.
At the end of the day, this is a war on liberty. One man doesn't have the right to tell another man what he can or can not consume. If you disagree, and feel that people like Obama and Bush can tell us what to consume, you are an idiot.
Once again, if you legalize every type of drug you are opening a whole shit ton of different doors that you do not want open.
Just a couple things off the top of my head ... what do you do when you have 20xs more addicts who cant do absolute jack shit because the drugs make them worthless human beings, whats the taxpayers responsibility to these addicts, what do you do if your employee is coming in to work blasted out of his mind (but not technically on drugs at the moment) because he is coming down from using over the weekend, what is the limit to drive on each drug, you are using substances that WILL kill you eventually... whats the responsibility of the businesses and can they be liable? Corporations cant even sell burgers without being ridiculed for contributing to the obesity epidemic, do we legalize all prescription drugs too? etc etc
Its not just as easy as "Legalize drugs and the cartels are gone over night" that is completely foolish and stupid. There is no evidence that points to a 25 year old from the middle of Mexico who has a 3rd grade education level and has been running in the cartels since he was 12 will just drop his extremely violent and illegal ways because the price of weed has dropped. They will not get a legitimate job. As human nature, they will adapt to the new surroundings and find a way to extort and do what they got to do to survive.
You are going to the extreme by using heroin, which has devastating effects, as the example of the drug being legalized. Weed and Coke would be the two drugs that should be legalized. The companies would have the same legal liability that AB-Inbev, Merck and Phillip Morris have. Taxpayer money is blown on sending users to prison were they become hardened criminals and come out worse then they came in.
Apply the same standards that are used to regulate alcohol to Weed and Coke and the History Channel would have to find a new show to fill Gangland's time slot. I would also recommend legalizing and requiring STD testing for prostitution.
The above stuff is mainly related to the US. For Mexico i agree it is much more difficult because the cartels are armed to the teeth and have illiterate terrorist as soldiers. Remember though that the reason these cartels exist is to make money primarily by selling drugs to US consumers. Cut out the revenue and they have to lose power since they cannot pay their members. It will not happen overnight, but in the long term it will devastate them.
Thanks for showing most prohibitionist are mental light-weights.
Greater access to drugs doesn't mean more drug use. Portugal has decriminalized all drug use and their rates of drug use have declined.
If your employee is coming to work high on drugs you would do the same thing to him as you would do to an employee high on alcohol... fire him! Most drugs won't kill you and if we legalized them and had scientists work on them they wouldn't be lethal. Are you an idiot? Do you know big companies sell cigarettes, which kill 440 thousand Americans every year.
If you legalize drugs the people who would be producing them would be American firms, not drug cartels. Thus their revenues would decline and their ability to hire thugs and buy guns would decrease. Thus, if 100% of their revenues decrease, 100% of their guns and thugs would decrease also.
We will not have 20x more addicts if we legalize it. That's unfounded scare propaganda. Even among the user population of these substances, it's only a very small percentage that would classify as true addicts, and at real risk of causing danger to themselves or others.
You do realize that alcohol is legal right? Do people go to work with hangovers occasionally? Yes. Do people sometimes drink themselves to death and become unproductive? Yes. Do people sometimes drink and drive? Yes. Society hums along just fine. Under your logic, we should prohibit alcohol sales. Then I can be the next Al Capone and open a speak easy and shoot anyone that double crosses me. Unless you're a fucking Puritan, you're a total hypocrite.
Yes, the Mexican drug lord will figure out something else to do. Illegal casinos, kidnapping for ransom, loansharking, you name it. But they ALREADY have those options available to them. That they are choosing to run the drug trade (because our laws make it so insanely profitable) should tell you something.
Like this is logic/common sense/economics whatever you want to call it. Anyone who disagrees is an ignorant fuck.
Great post. Prohibitionist are the ultimate mental lightweights.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124061336043754551.html
yeah and the violence associated with the mafia DISAPPEARED overnight because of the fact that prohibition, there were no longer anymore organized crime violence.
1 rule of policy is that it ALWAYS has unintended consequences attached to it that the government doesnt 'foresee'
I don't have enough time to read all of this atm, but I've read some comments along the lines of "so you make drugs legal and the cartels have less profit. How does that make them less dangerous?"
You kidding me? Money buys guns and pays the guys who use them. They get less money, they get less guns and less soldiers. It really isn't that hard to understand. It may not completely wipe them out, but it would be a huuuuge step.
like with anything, if you ask "who is making $$ off this" things that are retarded start to make sense.
the "drug war" is big money for "law" enforcement and the security/prison industry.
just like the war on terror has created thousands of war profiteer millionaires.
the easy and cheap way to deal with drugs is as a medical problem. we can have armies of cops chasing down winos and rumrunners in prohibition part deux but how many people can say with a straight face that that's a good idea?
same with this phony war on terror. the right solution is the israeli one: hunt every motherfucker who had anything to do with 911 down and slit their throats like pigs. but no, we are not small and lean, we are fat and stupid, and decided to flush $3TT down the hole to pay defense contractors who have had a BANNER decade. trust me on this one, times are fat in DC.
but i don't blame the government any more than i blame fleas for biting my dog. it's in their nature. i blame the retarded fucking electorate for having such low intelligence and a paucity of sense to determine elections on bullshit issues like gay marriage and debates on whose interpretation of the same bronze age superstition is better.
Btw, if pot were legalized, it would be a ridiculous investment opportunity....too bad they're doing it in this phased "who do you know" crony capitalist way...fucking politicians
Who's the socially conservative, ignorant fucknut throwing monkey shit at the rationale, accurate comments?
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There is no reason that drugs are illegal other than the fact that Big Pharma wants to sell us "their drugs". Let's be honest, when a bottle of Marinol costs the same as 2oz of marijuana the theory proves itself. Prohibition is predicated on the notion that people are too stupid to determine whether or not to do drugs. If someone wants to smoke meth, I honestly don't care. Hell, we sell tons of things that can potentially kill people. Alcohol, tobacco, prescription medication. It angers me that these politicians think that they can somehow legislate public health when it is inherently obvious what it does to us.
Who cares if it solves a crime problem IN ANOTHER COUNTRY? On the other hand it will help it, but in America thousands of people will not be in jail for selling, manufacturing, or using. Billions of dollars will be saved by ending the War on Drugs and letting these (mainly minority) people out of jail. Just have a campaign that shows the ill effects of the drugs like they do with tobacco/alcohol.
Jesus Alexpasch, this is why libertarians are the 3% party. Looks like you've got anger issues with the "fucking puritans" but I won't get into that.
I would legalize pot, but with the hard stuff, we have guys like you who , all due respect, have no idea how the people on the margins suffer. This is a complex topic and it's annoying to have people gargle Milton Friedman's jizz and call everyone stupid for disagreeing, when you don't really know what legalization would do. Portugal could not be more irrelevant. Maybe if you offered something that isn't reduced to "our policy creates a perfect utopia, QED you rubes," you could get 4% to go libertarian and not have to associate with backwards people in the GOP.
Libertarians represent ~20% of the US population. That the Libertarian party gets 3% of the vote and/or registrations, has more to do with the political party system/structure. I recommend you read Robert Dahl's "On Democracy", specifically Chapter 11, to get a deeper understanding of why. I don't have anger issues with anyone, it's just funny how some people are hypocrites. I bet everyone arguing against legalization drinks, and you don't see them getting themselves into a drunken stupor. I have friends that do coke, pot, and abuse prescription drugs, and I don't see them failing at their jobs, relationships, or really, anything. If anything, libertarians are the most educated, most genial party; it just frustrates us to have to put up with all this stupidity on certain issues that are very clear cut. It's like as if you had discovered penicillin, and people insisted on using leeches. Wouldn't that frustrate anyone? People's lives are at stake here, that's why people get riled up about it. And the libertarian party will always be small because there will always be a large portion of the population that thinks they know something when in fact they don't, and plenty of power-hungry politicians ready to pander to their ignorant views. The most honest politicians can be found in the fringe parties, because there's no money there, only beliefs.
I am aware of how people on the margin suffer, my mom's first husband died of a cocaine overdose, so I've heard the stories. I think it's funny that somehow you magically know what legalization would do, and I do not, when in reality, it hasn't happened and both of our statements are guesses. Only until everything is legalized will we know for certain who is right. That being said, I would argue that my guess is educated because I have economics as well as comparative historical cases on my side. What evidence is on your side? Is your sole evidence that you know someone that did harm to themselves via hard drugs and you're extrapolating that anecdote to the overall population? I think you have no idea what suffering you're leaving out in your cost/benefit analysis. I'm sure that the only people getting killed in drive-bys and other drug-related crime are the drug dealers, never does an innocent bystander get hit (or kidnapped, or whatever). Also, I'm sure it's great that you and I spend $40K a year housing and feeding so many criminals whose sole crime was buying and selling some innocuous plant material, weed.
This is a complex topic in that people are complex beings. What you're saying is like saying whether to legalize alcohol is a complex topic. In principle, and in theory, this is not a complex topic from a purely policy perspective. Drugs are a complex topic only at the personal level. Never make overarching policy based on personal anecdotes, it should be based on facts and the best economic theory we have at our disposal, and in such a case, legalization is clearly the best answer to anyone that has done their due diligence.
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