Please Help ! I can't decide which school to choose? UBC vs ESADE vs Bocconi vs Rollins College Msc Management

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I have offers of admission from:

1) University of British Columiba- Master of management ( 9 months- Canada, Vancouver) 38.000 CAD $

2) ESADE- Msc in International Management ( 1 year- Spain, Barcelona) 24.000 Euro

3) Bocconi-Msc Management (English Cohort) (2 years- Italy, Milan) 23.000 Euro in total

4) Rollins College- Early Advantage MBA ( 2 years- USA, Florida, Orlando) 69.000$ in total but I received a scholarship

5) Applied to LSE Master's Management, still waiting reply from the school.

7) Also I couldn't decide to whether apply to Ie Business School. Even though it is generally ranked higher than ESADE, most of the people I talked said that ESADE is still more prestigious among the employers.

Money is not a big consideration for me right now.

My post-graduation plan is getting some management consulting career in USA,Canada or Europe than returning to my home country to conduct our family business.By the way I'm non-Eu and non-American. I think the best way to get a job in a foreign country is graduating from a decent school in the country where you wanna work. So as a recent university graduate myself, getting a management master degree seems as the only way to land a management consulting job in America or Europe. Actually, pre-experience management masters are really common in Europe but they are very rare in USA. Rollins' Early advantage MBA is the only decent pre-experience Management Master programme I could find in the states but don't think people in other states such as New York or California would know anything about the Rollins since it is a small private college in Florida .

For Europe, Esade seems better than Bocconi and for America, UBC is much better known than Rollins College but Rollins' program content seems better equipped than UBC's. However, I can't come up with a final decision all choices seem nice to me.

So which schools you guys would choose and why? Thank you for your helps!

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May 12, 2014

Which Bocconi masters is it? The International Management one, or just Management?

May 12, 2014

Just Management. Is there any difference between Msc International Management and Msc Management in terms of education quality and reputation ?

May 12, 2014

Id go with Bocconi unless LSE gets back to you. Two years gives you a crack at applying for summer internships to do before your final year. ESADE is also a very good school. Have a few friends who graduated from there and they did well in terms of IB and consulting placement.

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May 12, 2014

But since I don't know either Italian or Spanish, Wouldn't it be tough for me to land a job after graduating from ESADE or Bocconi ? Therefore, I was thinking that graduating from UBC in Canada will be better for me in terms of landing a job since there isn't any language barrier( However, English is also not my Mother Language :) ) and UBC is accepted as a decent Canadian School. Is this a flawed reasoning ?

May 12, 2014

As far as I know, Bocconi is pretty well-known in the UK as well. OCR is impressive as per the link below:

http://www.unibocconi.it/wps/wcm/connect/Bocconi/S...

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May 12, 2014

I second Bocconi, I know some people from there and they place pretty well into MM and BB IB. Not too sure about consulting though.

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May 12, 2014

It may be more of a toss-up between Bocconi or ESADE. If you were in the International Management program at Bocconi, I would say go to Bocconi in a heartbeat. I know several students in that major and they are doing lots of interesting projects and have great access to opportunities not only in Milan, but continental Europe and London in terms of consulting. The management program is being offered with a "Fashion, Luxury and Made in Italy major" that makes you marketable to work at a lot of Italian companies: Ferrari, Gucci, Valentino, etc (check out http://www.unibocconi.eu/wps/wcm/connect/Bocconi/S...).

I don't know any students in the Management program personally, so unfortunately can't help you much with personal experiences. But I know for a fact that ESADE's IM program also places quite well in Europe (check out their job placement stats). I attended an ESADE event in NYC earlier this year and had the chance to speak to some alumni from the IM program as well as MBA- seems like a good program too. Several also had found work in the US - one at BNP Paribas in NYC, one at Amazon, etc.

Don't know anything about the other schools you mentioned. If I were you, I'd take a look at LinkedIn and filter alumni from both Bocconi and ESADE (paying close attention to their exact program) and see where they work, live, etc - it's a good way of getting an alternate view of job placements.

May 24, 2014

UBC is a very solid school. It is usually considered the third best in Canada. But I have no idea about its international reputation. From what I know, there aren't many opportunities in since Vancouver is wildy considered a retirement city (nice weather, beautiful landscape, and rich people). So you may also want to consider those Ontario universities if you want to come to Canada.

May 25, 2014

If LSE gives you a positive answer, you can turn all the others down. If not I'd go for Bocconi. They place quite well all around Europe. Including London (in case you're worrying about a future job in Italy). Every year, since the 1990s, Bocconi has become more and more globalized and is starting to have a pretty good reputation all around the world (they have 220 partner universities ranging from Hong Kong University of Science and Technology to Princeton). Plus, it's located in Milan, which has all of the major firms of Italy. You won't even need to be fluent in Italian, because all the big American firms implanted in Italy are located in Milan (JP Morgan, GS, McKinsey, etc.)

ESADE is also a well recognized university, but I still think it's a step below Bocconi. Plus, if you want to change program (from management to international management for instance) when you get there, I think that Italians might let you do that if you argue well ;)

May 25, 2014
TvK:

You won't even need to be fluent in Italian, because all the big American firms implanted in Italy are located in Milan (JP Morgan, GS, McKinsey, etc.)

English may be corporate language for all banks but in almost every case country's local language is the office language and Bocconi doesn't lack superstars for them to take in a non native speaker.

May 25, 2014

I like that you give advice regarding the program in this topic and at the same time created a topic with basic questions about Bocconi (see "My future after Bocconi?"). From what I've read, you are looking to start a BACHELOR's degree, which means that you are somewhere between 17 and 20. No offense, but I don't think you are in the right position to give advice such as "you won't need Italian for work in Milan" (which is wrong btw) or other stuff about the reputation or the placement of Bocconi. As a sidenote, Bocconi's flagship course is the two year MSc Finance program, which isn't available to the OP, so I don't think Bocconi MSc Management is the obvious choice here.

Generally, I don't like pissing on other people's legs in anonymous online boards but guys like you or this Walter-Wang dude (in other MSc topics) shouldn't be giving out advice to students who are trying to make an informed decision, given that you clearly don't know (yet?) what you are talking about. Sorry for the harsh words.

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May 25, 2014

Okay I know I might not sound very reliable, but I believe I do know a fair deal about this subject.

The reason I created the "My future after Bocconi" is to know about the international outlook of the university. Regarding Europe I know pretty much all there is to know about it. I've been to the Bocconi 4 times, and I attended the Open days twice (regular open days and admitted students open days). I've talked to various professor (including directors of studies), I heard their presentations, which all had a focus on "the future after bocconi". I spent hours of researching about this university. I know where the Bocconi places their students and I also know that many go on to the SDA Bocconi for an MBA. Yes, I have also looked into their MBA program and I have talked to current MBA students at the Bocconi. I think I am the only in this conversation that has an insider point of view on the university.

I was mistaking when I said that one doesn't need to speak italian to work in Milan. My apologies. I know a german friend of my parents who has been working in Milan for various years now and who hardly speaks a word of italian, though.
But what I meant, is that if the OP doesn't speak italian now, he'll catch it up pretty quickly in 2 years of MBA in Milan. He'll probably know enough italian to work in an international firm in Milan by then.

It is true that I am still on a bachelor level, but I am closer to the MBA process than most of the people who have already started a career and might be outdated by a few years. Even if my MBA is 3 years ahead, I am actively informing my self almost everyday.

Being a French, German and Italian National who did his whole education in a French system and who is currently enrolled at the Bocconi, I have looked into almost all the Universities in Western and Central Europe for the past 2 years, from Cambridge to Wirtschafts Universitat Wien.

I wouldn't be so confident talking about universities in the US (although I ve been accepted to a few) or in Asia Pacifc though

But I estimate myself qualified to give advise about any university and program I am familiar with in Europe. Wether the OP decides to follow my advise or not is his problem.

PS: This may sound offensive, but it's not meant to be

May 25, 2014
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