Please Help!! Ohio State vs. Miami (OH) for Undergrad in Finance. I want to be an Investment Banker on Wall Street.

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Although both of these are non-targets, which school do you think gives me the better chance of accomplishing my dream of working as an Investment Banker on Wall Street?

Miami(OH) is ranked 22nd in the Businessweek rankings which is higher than OSU but OSU is ranked 17th in the US News and World Report Rankings which is higher than Miami.

Also i have heard about the Fisher Futures program. However,I am enrolled to go to Miami (OH) this year and if I go to OSU I would have to transfer which I dont mind doing but I dont know if I can transfer into the Fisher Futures program.

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Feb 16, 2013

You will be fine at Miami of Ohio. Farmer is really stepping up their program, and I know a few guys who went to BBs in the last year. I think Miami is far superior to OSU.

Also, just so you know... Miami (Farmer) is ranked 23, and OSU (Fisher) is ranked 68 on Bloomberg.

Feb 16, 2013

OSU grad here...made it to IB no problem even without the FF program. Either school will work equally as well for you honestly. And yes, you can transfer in and then become part of the FF program. Just remember that it is very selective when taking people.

Feb 16, 2013

What banks can I get into from Miami (OH)?

@PTS- How do you get into Fisher Futures? Do you have to apply or are you chosen from the business school? Also in what year does it start?

What does my GPA have to be to get into IB if i stay at Miami (OH)

Feb 16, 2013
PTS:

OSU grad here...made it to IB no problem even without the FF program. Either school will work equally as well for you honestly. And yes, you can transfer in and then become part of the FF program. Just remember that it is very selective when taking people.

Really?
OSU places into IBD?

Not being sarcastic, seriously interested. How difficult did you find the process?

Feb 17, 2013
lasampdoria:
PTS:

OSU grad here...made it to IB no problem even without the FF program. Either school will work equally as well for you honestly. And yes, you can transfer in and then become part of the FF program. Just remember that it is very selective when taking people.

Really?
OSU places into IBD?

Not being sarcastic, seriously interested. How difficult did you find the process?

Yes OSU places into IBD. I didn't find it hard at all. Quite a few banks (mostly MM or Chicago firms, but a BB or two) recruit for SA and full time. Just poking through the alum directory I can tell you that the network at any firm you could want to work for is extensive. If you can get your name on the list for firms that don't directly recruit I think you will definitely get a look.

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Feb 16, 2013

Are you from New York, or will you be paying in state tuition?

Feb 16, 2013

You have to apply. They take 8-12 students per year. You apply in the middle of your sophomore year and then do a modeling self study course and read a couple books the summer before junior year. then i believe theres a weekly class meeting during junior year for a couple hours a week to discuss topics. then junior year they try to place you at a SA spot in IB.

Feb 16, 2013

I grew up in Oxford! For undergrad you really can't go wrong going to Miami. They used to have an investment banking club when I took a few classes there (around 08). It was student ran so I'm not sure how active the group is or if it even still exists. You'll have much more fun in Oxford than C-bus anyways. Miami has a huge network in Chicago... I dare to say it does not lag all that far behind Northwestern of UofC. I would just start networking with alumni real early on. You could do you undergrad at Miami, interning at IB's in Chicago in the summer (maybe Columbus or Cleveland also) or PWM in Cincinnati (not really any IB in Cincy-although there are some small PE firms). After graduation get an IB gig in Chicago for a couple years and then do an MBA at Booth or Kellogg. Of course this is assuming you would want to live and Chicago and go the MBA route. PM me if you have any questions.

Feb 18, 2013
subrosa:

I grew up in Oxford! For undergrad you really can't go wrong going to Miami. They used to have an investment banking club when I took a few classes there (around 08). It was student ran so I'm not sure how active the group is or if it even still exists. You'll have much more fun in Oxford than C-bus anyways. Miami has a huge network in Chicago... I dare to say it does not lag all that far behind Northwestern of UofC. I would just start networking with alumni real early on. You could do you undergrad at Miami, interning at IB's in Chicago in the summer (maybe Columbus or Cleveland also) or PWM in Cincinnati (not really any IB in Cincy-although there are some small PE firms). After graduation get an IB gig in Chicago for a couple years and then do an MBA at Booth or Kellogg. Of course this is assuming you would want to live and Chicago and go the MBA route. PM me if you have any questions.

Do you know anyone who has gone straight from Miami University to New York City?

Feb 18, 2013
knicksfan17:
subrosa:

I grew up in Oxford! For undergrad you really can't go wrong going to Miami. They used to have an investment banking club when I took a few classes there (around 08). It was student ran so I'm not sure how active the group is or if it even still exists. You'll have much more fun in Oxford than C-bus anyways. Miami has a huge network in Chicago... I dare to say it does not lag all that far behind Northwestern of UofC. I would just start networking with alumni real early on. You could do you undergrad at Miami, interning at IB's in Chicago in the summer (maybe Columbus or Cleveland also) or PWM in Cincinnati (not really any IB in Cincy-although there are some small PE firms). After graduation get an IB gig in Chicago for a couple years and then do an MBA at Booth or Kellogg. Of course this is assuming you would want to live and Chicago and go the MBA route. PM me if you have any questions.

Do you know anyone who has gone straight from Miami University to New York City?

I know a couple of guys who went to NY and went to work at one of the big 4, one did an MBA and is in a S&T role now. No one that I knew went directly to NYC for IB (keep in mind I was by no means Van Wilder and unfortunately not very sociable). I do know a couple of guys who went to Chicago to be IB analysts right out of school though. I'm not sure where you're from (maybe NY looking at your username), but keep in mind that regardless if you go OSU or Miami you are going to a school in the midwest and as a result will have a much better chance landing a job in Chicago than New York.

Feb 18, 2013
knicksfan17:
subrosa:

I grew up in Oxford! For undergrad you really can't go wrong going to Miami. They used to have an investment banking club when I took a few classes there (around 08). It was student ran so I'm not sure how active the group is or if it even still exists. You'll have much more fun in Oxford than C-bus anyways. Miami has a huge network in Chicago... I dare to say it does not lag all that far behind Northwestern of UofC. I would just start networking with alumni real early on. You could do you undergrad at Miami, interning at IB's in Chicago in the summer (maybe Columbus or Cleveland also) or PWM in Cincinnati (not really any IB in Cincy-although there are some small PE firms). After graduation get an IB gig in Chicago for a couple years and then do an MBA at Booth or Kellogg. Of course this is assuming you would want to live and Chicago and go the MBA route. PM me if you have any questions.

Do you know anyone who has gone straight from Miami University to New York City?

MU has placed a few kids each year directly into NYC; although Chicago is much more common

Feb 17, 2013

Many thanks PTS.

Feb 19, 2013

I went to OSU and was in FF. It is by no means a golden ticket to wall street however, they do give you the tools you need to break your way in. My junior year was right in the middle of the crisis so as you can imagine, shit was really hitting the fan back then and hiring was essentially at a stand still. Only one member of our class got an internship on the street that turned into a full time offer post grad. You will take trips on your own dime to Chicago and NY in the program, and tehy will put you in front of OSU alumni at all of the banks, JPM, GS, UBS, Lazard to name a few. You will also do the wallstreetprep financial modeling calss the summer prior to your junior year, and fall semester of junior year you will be in a career development class once a week where guest speakers come in and help get you ready to network on the street. The program is really what you make of it, if you put the work in learning about modeling, and all of the technical questions that could come in an interview, in addition to networking like hell you should have no problem getting a SA offer.

As for me, I now havea really good job at a major retailer's home office in Columbus and plan on breaking into the street by way of B-School in a couple years. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but I think my case was extreme in that the hiring landscape was lackluster 4 years ago.

If you have any questions about OSU/Fisher and the FF program feel free to drop me a message

May 28, 2013
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