How to wake up earlier?
I'm interested in a career in trading, but I'm currently used to waking up at least around 8-9. How do people cope with waking up really early and being functional at the same time?
I'm interested in a career in trading, but I'm currently used to waking up at least around 8-9. How do people cope with waking up really early and being functional at the same time?
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they go to bed earlier.
beat me to it. I think people under estimate sleeping earlier. Then have a fixed time to go to bed and it becomes a habit
I turn in around 9pm and get up at 4am. then either running or weights, shower/shave and off to the office.
Set your alarm earlier
If you’re concerned about that this biz aint for you
I still struggle to wake up. Some of these methods are a bit left field but I absolutely love sleep so this is for someone who is really struggling:
I went to a holiday in Bali for two weeks. got used to that body clock. and then came back to London time zone. Now waking up at 5-6am was very easy. to maintain this means I have to sleep early at 10-11pm. this can work for a few month if you maintain it properly. the risk is that you start going out and having super late dinners with friends which change your body clock back.
I started using a sun light lamp. fake sunrise is useful especially in the long dark winters.
I started using sleep cycle. try to wake up when you come out REM sleep.
worst come to worst - try take melatonin, if that doesn’t work take sleeping pill just to put your body into a pattern and come off it because it’s not good to take sleeping pills.
Try meditation apps before sleeping to empty frenzy thoughts and help sleep quality.
I'd echo the above with the sun light lamp -- it helps a lot when you're waking up when it's still dark outside and it's not as shocking as a normal alarm clock.
I think sleeping early is the most important factor though. A couple suggestions:
Pushing up your eating schedule could help. If you eat too close to your bedtime, your digestion could interfere with your ability to fall asleep.
This is a more expensive option but I have a cooling mat that goes underneath my fitted sheet / above my mattress. Your body falls asleep faster under cooler temperatures, and I found that this helped a lot for me (and it improved the overall quality of my sleep as well). It's also nice because you can set it to whatever specific temperature helps you fall asleep the best.
When I started FT, had difficulty waking up even for IB start times (10-11am in my office) because I was often in the office until 3-4 am, and when I wasn't, couldn't fall asleep. I normalized my sleep schedule by: setting a set time to go to bed every night, taking melatonin to fall asleep if I couldn't do so naturally, and setting several annoying, wake-your-roommates-up-screaming alarms around the room away from the bed. Don't eat a couple hours before sleep. If you have more time to fall asleep, taking sleeping pills on the tough nights help too, just test it out to see if they make you groggy.
when u took sleeping pills, didn't they make u sleep more?
A lot of good advice listed above. For me it helped me to get up early around 5:00am and do a short workout for about 30 minutes (alternate between cardio and lifting) that would really ensure that I am alert for the day.
It mostly depends on habits. Start to set the alarm every day 10 minutes earlier and try to anticipate bed time in the evening, targeting 5/6 hours of sleep per night. Do not eat to much before bed and plan an activity you like as first thing to do in the morning (gym, run, read a book, modelling.....) drinking a lot of water plus having a very good breakfast
Try baby steps if you have the time for that. Get up 15 mins earlier, then next day 15 mins earlier etc.
If that’s not working or you have to get an earlier habit quickly, then do an all-nighter and go to bed early the next day.
Pretty much all the things mentioned here are great. Just to add, keep your rooms dark once it becomes closer to bedtime and wear socks to bed. Don't take more than 5mg of melatonin per night. Never tried this but there's this thing psychologists recommend triggering called the mammalian dive reflex if you're anxious at bedtime. Pretty much you submerge your face in a bowl of cold water for 30 seconds which lowers your heart rate and blood pressure. Sounds strange but there's a lot of scientific evidence for this being effective.
i need 9 hours of sleep. so, to wakeup at 6am, i need to goto sleep by 9pm
so, goto sleep at 9pm during the week....wakeup 6am, roll out of bed into shower for 10min...morning routine takes about 20min....and off i go
futures market closes at 5pm in new york, but most trading is done by 3-4pm....so i have 5-6 hours after the close to relax, eat dinner, see friends.....before going to bed at 9pm.
if you wan to party, thats what friday/saturday night are for
In addition to the above comments, I recommend getting an Apple Watch, FitBit, or Garmin since they have the vibrating alarm on your wrist. I find myself not sleeping through these alarms. Also limit your night cap to one drink.
wake up at the same time no matter what time you go to sleep. hot showers before bed. try to limit screen time and decrease lighting
Let me tell ya. When I first interned in S&T, I got a place in LIC around 10-15 commute to office. (probably quickest commute in the intern class) I usually woke up at 6:00 rolled around in bed for 15minutes than showered. Afterwards I left for work usually around 6:35-6:45. In the beginning, I slept at around 3-4am and woke up at 6am. I drank a shit ton of free coffee so I could function. Eventually, my body became tired around 10pm and I would start just sleeping earlier without trying. Just live and adapt.
when you were sleeping at 3-4, were you ever scared you wouldn't wake up in time? that adrenaline would keep me up till 6 alone
Not sure, I think I was worried. I put like 20 alarms with obnoxiously loud sounds which helped.
Some good comments above, I think another key is to not have your weekend sleep schedule be drastically different than your weekday sleep schedule. If you're going to sleep / waking up 3-4 hours later on the weekend then you'll likely spend the first 1-2 days of the week readjusting and not getting the best quality or enough sleep
Just take super speculative trading positions. The anxiety will be so great that you won’t even need to go to sleep.
Agreed with everything above. I use this SUPER annoying app out there that's been helpful for me called Alarmy. Basically you set your time and then you set a challenge. The challenges are things like Taking a Selfie, scanning a barcode, doing a math problem (what I'm doing), etc. And the alarm doesn't stop ringing until you solve the problem. It's a really annoying way of waking up and staying awake. I'd recommend it!
I use a alarm clock across the room and smart lights that turn on at certain time to get my ass up
Very good comments above and I would say at least on my side ,taking magnesium before going to bed helps me a lot and relaxes muscles as well as helping good quality of sleep. Also, sleep hygiene is essential (room temperature, lights, sounds)
I would also suggest reading the book sleep, by nick littlehales. I enjoyed it
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