Smart women?

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Obviously you don't want to be dating someone who isn't smart as it would be a lot harder for you to relate to (I'm taking the assumption all of are somewhat intelligent) and they would most likely have an average job. What do you think about dating a female that is smarter then you? Do you prefer that?

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Nov 20, 2016

As a female (an alpha too might I add), I need to be dating a guy who consistently challenges me and thus, is an alpha as well. But I never want to be smarter than him. I can be as smart, but I prefer to not feel that I am dealing with someone who is insecure the entire time because they are feeling not as smart

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Nov 20, 2016

"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision."

--Bertrand Russell, The Triumph of Stupidity

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Nov 20, 2016

I always laugh at how everyone in this forum considers themselves such an "alpha". I think using that terminology to describe yourself is the biggest signal of massive insecurity.

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Nov 20, 2016

Agreed. It's laughable.

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Nov 20, 2016
adapt or die:

I always laugh at how everyone in this forum considers themselves such an "alpha". I think using that terminology to describe yourself is the biggest signal of massive insecurity.

Aren't 99% of finance people insecure type a personalities? Think I read that somewhere.

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Nov 21, 2016

no word more overused / outdated, it's time for it to be retired

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Nov 23, 2016

who the fuck is giving this fucktard silver bananas?

Nov 24, 2016

Damn faithless feminists....

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

Nov 28, 2016

Look, you know damn well all the female race looks for in a male partner is size, in terms of bank account and, well I'm sure your imagination can work the rest out.

The same way, most guys like smart (not up your own arse, smart,) females, who can climb into a sports car without issue.

Nov 20, 2016

My wife is smarter than me on paper (scored 99.95 on her high school testing vs my 99.15). Overall, she remains smarter in some areas, not as smart in others (eg I'm much bigger on history and its lessons, she approaches things from first principles without the benefit of historical learning). I enjoy the challenging conversations and need to be nimble in my thinking. Overall, very rewarding.

I pity those who feel the need to have an intellectually submissive partner.

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Nov 20, 2016

I take it you're Australian? What university did you go to?

Nov 20, 2016

UNSW, a long, long time ago.

Nov 22, 2016

How did you get that from his post?

How is my grammar? Drop me a note with any errors you see!

Nov 20, 2016

Why do I get the feeling you can't carry a regular conversation?

Nov 20, 2016

Archervice, when I talk to most of my mates the conversation usually ends up going back to the GFC or the Great Depression.

Nov 20, 2016

How many conversations could you possibly have about the Great Depression? It's just not that interesting.

To answer your original question... it doesn't matter if she is smarter than you. Why would it?

Nov 20, 2016

I don't know man, sounds a bit like asking if a chick shouldn't be taller than you for you to feel comfortable dating her. If you can't cope with either one, you may wanna think about why you're so insecure about yourself.

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Nov 20, 2016

I have to disagree, do you date >2m chicks (rare but definitely there)? Personally I wouldn't want to date a female "giant" (hopefully no one offended here). Same applies for intelligence. Personality is crucial but I wouldn't want to date / get serious with someone who is either the smartest women on planet (Stephen Hawking counterpart) or the exact opposite (a pig's IQ). It comes down that the intelligence is more or less similar so that you can have conversations on a stimulating level for both. Just my two cents...

(now throw the monkey shit, I am prepared)

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Nov 20, 2016
Chris7:

I have to disagree, do you date >2m chicks (rare but definitely there)? Personally I wouldn't want to date a female "giant" (hopefully no one offended here). Same applies for intelligence. Personality is crucial but I wouldn't want to date / get serious with someone who is either the smartest women on planet (Stephen Hawking counterpart) or the exact opposite (a pig's IQ). It comes down that the intelligence is more or less similar so that you can have conversations on a stimulating level for both. Just my two cents...

(now throw the monkey shit, I am prepared)

I didn't say anything about 2m chicks. Anything above 1.80 would prolly be considered tall for a chick which means any guy up to 1.75 who's not very self-confident will have a hard time impressing taller chicks, because they probably are looking for someone taller than themselves.

As for the intelligence part, you're thinking too black and white. Just because someone has a higher IQ than you doesn't necessarily mean that you can't engage in stimulating conversations with each other.

By the way, both of the above can quite easily be overcome with some character and charisma. Unless obviously you're a mentally retarded midget.

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Nov 23, 2016

Agreed on tall girls.

I don't think I've ever been attracted to a girl taller than me... and I don't think I know any girls who would be interested in a shorter guy either.

Nov 21, 2016
Matrick:

I don't know man, sounds a bit like asking if a chick shouldn't be taller than you for you to feel comfortable dating her. If you can't cope with either one, you may wanna think about why you're so insecure about yourself.

That all depends. I'm insecure about my height since I'm less than 5'10 (average male height in the US), so I'm not going to date a bish who's 8 feet tall

Nov 22, 2016
Going Concern:

Matrick:I don't know man, sounds a bit like asking if a chick shouldn't be taller than you for you to feel comfortable dating her. If you can't cope with either one, you may wanna think about why you're so insecure about yourself.

That all depends. I'm insecure about my height since I'm less than 5'10 (average male height in the US), so I'm not going to date a bish who's 8 feet tall

Why do you keep thinking in extremes?

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Nov 21, 2016

going through life blindly comparing your intellect to others' would probably make it tough to maintain relationships.

but to humor you, I think being "equally yoked" from the perspective of similar socioeconomic backgrounds, level of education and priorities is important

Nov 21, 2016

I wonder how many of the marriages that follow this logic of "equally yoke" end up in divorce? My parents are vastly different but made many sacrifices and have been married for almost 30 years by now, probably will be married for the rest of their lives. Same with my grandparents. They are all oldshool. Half of marriages today end up in divorce so it really makes you wonder what has changed.

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Nov 22, 2016

probably 50%, lol .... I know that term is thrown around a lot, and probably means different things to different people, which is why I clarified what I think is important ... maybe it is as simple as wanting to make it work, and being mature enough to make that happen..

My wife and I come from less than stellar family dynamics, and we can empathize and be there for each other because of that. It would be hard for me to be with someone who could not relate.

Nov 21, 2016

I've dated smarter women before, but I am pretty simple myself.

Intellect isn't the big ticket item for me, it's the part where I get them to smile and laugh.

I don't like telling people what I do, women tend to think I am some big-tech geek or nerd, and then stray away or close the conversation. If I can open with a joke, it usually seals the deal.

I like smarter women, just because, I can do stupid sh*t and ask for forgiveness afterwards.

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Nov 21, 2016

Define intelligent?

I find when I start talking about my predictions on energy stock price or physics to women I usually go home alone.

I have a feeling my intelligence is scaring away the less intellectually-gifted ladies.

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Nov 22, 2016

intelligent in my eyes who is both academically/professionally smart and has common sense. When I talk to some of the smartest females in my year about Finance and investments they honestly don't get any of it and ask me questions like how do you know this stuff? I don't get any of them however so maybe I may need to tone it down a bit when talking about Finance?

Nov 22, 2016

It was a half sarcastic comment. (going home alone...Lol)

It depends who you are talking to. There were plenty of girls/women in school who could kick my ass in math or have better social skills than me. And a ton who I was better than them at math etc...

When you're out at a bar or trying to pick up women never talk about finance or anything boring. Most women don't like it.

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Nov 22, 2016

"I may need to tone it down a bit when talking about Finance?"

This can probably apply to your non-intimate relationships as well. I struggled with this my first year out of school, and noticed I was having trouble relating to my best friends from high school and college. Being a little more worldly and able to participate in the light conversations is important. True friends are hard to come by, and I am not sure if finance is the best basis for a relationship..

Nov 23, 2016

I am honestly blown away that you talk about stock predictions and physics with a girl at the bar.

Picking up chicks is rather simple, dont talk about stocks / physics, let them talk about themselves. What do people enjoy talking about the most? Themselves! Keep a steady flow of alcohol and do not say too much. Just pretend to care about whatever she is talking about.

Also, standards are for Hollywood. No one is going to right a tabloid article about the chick you brought home last night.

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Nov 23, 2016

Shamelessly, that's real shit about the tabloid thing

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Nov 23, 2016

lucky me to have been in s.america, beauty & brains all over the place. what a wonderful continent to live in

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Nov 23, 2016

This website is honestly too much sometimes.

If this is an honest question that you are asking yourself, I don't know what to say.

Nov 23, 2016

Yeah, I know satire and reality are often mixed on this site, but this is heinous. The amount of testosterone people try to emulate behind a computer screen is a lot.

Relationships cannot be discussed in the same tone as work.

Nov 23, 2016

My girlfriend is smarter than me but I have more common sense. Guess who makes all the decisions..

The answer to your question is 1) network 2) get involved 3) beef up your resume 4) repeat -happypantsmcgee

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Nov 23, 2016

I prefer dumb chicks but this is only in the short-term

Nov 23, 2016

My gf now is smarter than me and makes more than I do, it's awesome.

Nov 23, 2016

Depends on the type of intelligence you are talking about. Left brained/mathematical (applied, not abstract) intelligence is a dime a dozen and something I couldn't care less about in a partner. If you are talking about the "spark of intellect" - cleverness, intellectual curiosity, facility with words, humor, etc. - that is extremely attractive. But it also is so rare a quality that I've only encountered it in a handful of individuals over the course of my life.

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Nov 23, 2016

Agreed in general. It's rare but I think it's not quite as rare as you believe. Try dating female lawyers, a lot of them are very well-read and good at abstract reasoning (specifically talking about ~T14 grads at BigLaw firms).

Nov 23, 2016

Too many "sensing" types in law school. I prefer intuition.

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Nov 23, 2016

"We're all a little weird. And life is a little weird. And when we find someone whose weirdness is compatible with ours, we join up with them and fall into mutually satisfying weirdness -- and call it love -- true love."
-- Robert Fulghum, True Love

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Nov 26, 2016
YoshiIsAwesome:

Depends on the type of intelligence you are talking about. Left brained/mathematical (applied, not abstract) intelligence is a dime a dozen and something I couldn't care less about in a partner. If you are talking about the "spark of intellect" - cleverness, intellectual curiosity, facility with words, humor, etc. - that is extremely attractive. But it also is so rare a quality that I've only encountered it in a handful of individuals over the course of my life.

I agree 100%. For me, that is one of the most important qualities needed to maintain a relationship long term

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Nov 23, 2016

That's so freaking complicated to me.
First of, I score high frequently at everything I study. And as it follows, I've learnt to "read" people's personalities and behavior (no MBTI-related stuff). And, after that I designed concepts about people, about life, and a lot of ideals that match with my desires, wishes and etc.

And then, I usually know when I see/meet/etc a girl who have exactly the same personality patterns than me.
And when I do find this out, it just happens automatically. And I usually can't take it easily...

There are lots of problems which usually pop from this situation. First usual problem, is that I'm highly impulsive after women I sexually desire. Problem actually starts, when I'm not at the most adequate ambient, or situation. Because I have to stop myself, and it makes me wanna die. Simple as that.

And the worst part when it happens, is that it simply mirrors me...I desire it so much, but I ultimately fear it. Because a person like me have a very high potential of being my worst nightmare. Let's make a check-list

The girl usually:
- is smart
- competitive
- may get highly agressive to win what she wants
- have a very low sensibility for having/understanding feelings
- may even get dangerous if I actually offend her deeply (here I'm assuming I could know if somone could actually stab me, just by looking at their personality)
- will not have mercy on me
- and she probably and usually studies with me because they usually come after me for that, for it is usual that they get better grades than me (obviously at this moment I'm more focused on how will I make my way till bed with her, and am thinking on how I'll actually stop thinking about her and getting my shit together before I could actually get off the actual situation without even touching her)

So, this is it.... I see no problem on a girl being smarter than me. She just needs to be actually different than me, so I'll feel really confortable that I'll not be battling my other self till the day we break up (or be bound to her untill our suffering death)

Fact is, that I couldn't take a second person like me.
Before this started to happen, I usually wished a smart woman. Because I want to have a nice, but really strong family. I'm learning a lot with Nassim Taleb's epistemology, on how to take care of my immature points of view.

A family is something to be made upon a deontic point of view. That's what I neglected when I first wished to get the perfect girl, for I wanted to have a perfect life (not that I consider myself so perfect, but for perfection of the world, my own vision is exactly what could make it perfect)

The big bonus, is that a smart woman, who actually acts different than me, will actually be funny, entertaining, creative...It will be a LOT more interesting relationship. My only doubt is if the sex will be so intense, while she'll remain still wishing just me. My bad, that I could actually predict infidelity too...

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Nov 23, 2016

After reading posts like these I'm really happy I'm dumber than most of the people here.

Nov 24, 2016

Don't worry. Anyone who learns from Nassim Taleb isn't always the smarter one. You'll do fine.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Nov 24, 2016

I've dated smart men and not so smart men. One was a dual- degree computer programmer who couldn't make a decision to save his life. Another was an actor who was as dumb as bricks, very handsome and yet still managed to headline a very famous film (no I won't tell you which one, but you all know it- it's a Christmas cult classic). I liked both and both liked me, though what the differentiating factor is, "Does my job make them insecure?". Insecurity can get to anyone, man or woman. So really, date someone who likes you for you and likes what you do and don't focus on whether or not they are "smart".

As a side note, I can always tell whose insecure about my job or not if they start asking me math questions on a date. Yes, this happens. Don't do this.

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Nov 24, 2016

Is the actor a drug-addled fellow who was shown hallway directions by a future President-elect?

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."

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Nov 24, 2016

Oh no hahaha but extremely reminiscent of Rob Lowe's character on "The Grinder".

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