The Perceived vs. Actual amount of times a girl has been railed
So, for the purpose of this post, I am asking you all a question:
When you look at a girl can you, yourself, accurately judge how many times her vag has been crushed?
In my case, I am usually close to the number about 50% of the time. Now, I don't necessarily mean you have to guess it perfectly but closer is better. Also, I know many of you are probably thinking "how do we find out the actual number".
Simple:
1) When you crush her, you will know.
2) If you are with her, there will be subtle clues
3) Ask her friends (in a way that doesn't make you look like a tool)
Lastly, When you guys are choosing a girl to be your girl, do you take the whole "how many times has she been crushed" question into consideration?
Obviously you would,t date a whore but I mean for me, a girl who went out with 3 guys for extended periods of time is kind of a turn off because she was probably getting railed every single day of her life at the time she was with each guy.
Personally, I like my girls to be conservative with their box, except when they are with me.
Disclaimer: This is not at all like the USC frat email because I am not influencing rape or anything of the sort. I am merely asking details of the process each guy goes through when he see's a girl. (In his head of course)
Shaggy actually had a song about this. Forgot what it was called, but he pretty much said women won't tell you how many partners they've had because they know you can't handle the truth. As for me, I stay away from oily faced creatures who wear tight pants and Uggs. It has worked wonders for me. My brethren however, have not fared so well.
What do you mean by this? Do you mean you can get an accurate number from physical feeling? Loose, tight, etc.?
Would you rather be with a girl who maybe had 6 partners, but they were all just one-night stands? (I'm not trying to be smart, this is a legitimate question.)
Obviously, this is a contradiction. Your best bet is to find a girl who for whatever reason hasn't dated a lot or very seriously.
Personally, I think the best way to tell how liberal she is with letting guys crush her is how fast she let you crush her. Lets be honest, the vast majority of guys are not very special, even these IB dudes. If you're fingering her under the table at dinner on the first date or crushing her in a bathroom stall on the night you met her at a club, chances are others have done the same.
If you have the mental discipline, I would suggest that you don't think about these things. Once you get yourself into a paranoia feedback loop about her crush number, you're going to go insane, and you might even end up messing up a good thing. However, I don't take this advice myself, because I'm like you, and I care about her history. At some point you're just going to have to accept the fact that most girls have been crushed a lot more than you'd like. You sound pretty young though, so maybe you can find a virgin without being a cradle robber.
It is very easy to for a girl to cover up a long sex history by simply working out her vagina. So your insistance that you can tell just by feel is a total joke.
yea but how many girls who have alot of sex are actually willing to do the work to tighten their vagina? If they are easy then they plan on having more sex and thus, will not elect to work their vag since it will be worthless.
bump this fucking worthless thread
WSO users certainly are the best and the brightest.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/03/womans_remarkable_vagina_hid_5.html
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oh god that is so wrong...
Fits the thread, no? lol
Personally, I don't have the intellectual/emotional discipline for me to not know her crush number. My reason is completely egotistical, though. My logic is why should I work hard when some other dude hit it in a bar easy as pie?
I also believe that this is a natural mechanism. For women, if a guy has banged a shit ton of birds, then this is very attractive, as he has essentially been 'pre-approved'. Men, however, with our more logical minds, understand that if a girl has been pounded loads and remains unmarried, then there's a reason why all the dudes have not hung around afterward - the conclusion being that there is something wrong with her.
If a key fits many locks, then it's a fucking good key. If a lock fits many keys, then it's a terrible fucking lock.
I'm relying on being able to grow out of this though. My problem is that every day I get better and better and thus my opinion of myself gets bigger and bigger, which doesn't exactly lend itself to eradicating the problem.
I just want to point out how classic this line is. +1
SO TRUE
This is a fucking amazing post and encapsulates how I feel. I don't have an issue with living with this opinion for a long time. I'm only ~25 though.
Unfair? Maybe. But I'm honest about it.
QFT
Dude, I hate to break it to you but I am fairly certain girls don't look to date the guy who bangs a shit ton of different woman. I am not sure how you came to that conclusion.
Well I hate to break it to you dude, but they do. Sheesh, a bunch of keyboard jockies up here who haven't gotten a taste of the real world!
they say they dont
This thread is stupid. No, there is no accurate way of telling. Even after you fuck them, how tight their vaginia is has no correlation with how easy they are. I have fucked virgins with loose junk and some of the sluttiest women i have slept with have had the tightest. Anyone who has a reasonable sample size would know this.
You should all actually go out and get laid instead of pontificating about useless shit on WSO.
this thread is not about the correlation between vag tightness and easiness. It is more about "can you closely guess the amount of men a woman has had sex with"
many people on this board work in the financial services which is all about speculation and educated guesses based on the slightest catalysts. Therefore, I thought it would be relevant to associate this topic with that logic. I can usually tell if a girl is slutty and there are many reasons that lead me to make that conclusion. Therefore, it is definitely plausible.
"Obviously you would,t date a whore but I mean for me, a girl who went out with 3 guys for extended periods of time is kind of a turn off because she was probably getting railed every single day of her life at the time she was with each guy."
Agree with this.
Like sleeve of wizard? Hotdog down a hallway? I could go on....
"If a chick gets nailed by a male porn star once, she is ruined. You cannot drive a Ferrari and go back to your Honda Accord. It just doesn't work that way." - Translation. It doesn't matter how many dudes she's been penetrated by.
Having a BSD makes this thread irrelevant.
At some point or another you're going to realize the amount of times she's been 'crushed' doesn't really matter.
Are you serious? You are afraid of a girl who was in a serious relationship because she was having a lot of sex? Get the fuck over yourself. Everyone likes sex and it would be ridiculous to degrade a woman because she likes to have a lot of sex with her significant other. As long as she's not riding a different stick every night, she's fine by me.
I think it's funny. Every guy thinks they have a 'perfect angel' only to find out that she went chocolate dipping for some amount of time or that she was the sorority slut on campus. Sex is sex.
And no, you don't always know if a girl has a had a lot of sex from just crushing her. Women are made to have babies so the size of yours or someone else's tiny dick is insignificant to what she's able to handle. Women don't get 'loose' from having too much sex. Whenever a guy says 'man she was so loose, she must be a real slut' I break out in laughter because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about and probably is proud to have moved up to the 2 digit kill numbers.
Bottom line: Who gives a fuck. Real confident men don't ask nor wonder how often their girl has been railed out, because it doesn't really matter. What she is to you is what she is. If you fault her for liking sex then you are most likely a hypocrite yourself. If she was a little wild in college, but now wants stability, SO WHAT. Are we any different?
haha that was a great post man. I am still young so a girl who has been crushed alot already is not a good sign. I was asking opinions of the older more experienced guys on this site.
Completely agree...what a ridiculous thread.
Would you wanna marry some chick that slept with 30 guys during her college days?
My loves sexual variety, will file divorce or cheat with a very high chance, only marry with super tight prenup and keep backup option available at all times alarm bells would just go off constantly-
Get a grip buddy. There are A LOT of women who slept with 30 guys in their college days. That's less than 5 guys each semester; and that's if she graduates in 4 years. If she took the 5 year route, it's 3 a semester. Wow, what a slut she slept with 3 guys in a semester!
Again, get over yourself. The numbers above are irrelevant. All women are prone to cheat/divorce and honestly it usually has NOTHING to do with how sexually active she was in college. People divorce over trust issues. It's not the act of sex they divorce over, they divorce over broken trust. Some of the most loyal women I know weren't goody-two-shoes back in college.
Reality is that there are a lot of good married women who were probably mischievous back in their earlier days. Who gives a fuck? Weren't we all?
And to take the other side of the argument, just because a woman had sex with only 1 guy in college doesn't mean she's going to make a good wife. On the contrary, maybe she hasn't even been sexually awakened yet. Just wait till she meets that neighbor of yours who's got a dick yay long and yay wide and suddenly she's found a new part of life she was missing for all these years. Boom, divorce.
So to answer your question, "would I want to marry a chick who slept with 30 guys during her college days?"
My answer is I really don't know. There are much more important factors that go into consummating a marriage with another individual. I don't have a checklist in which I check off women who slept with 30 men in college. Do you? However I do have a checklist for what I believe are more important things.. let's see.. age, intelligence, looks, smile, laugh, compatibility.. nope nothing in there about her exact number of men she's slept with.
People make mistakes. I'm sure if someone took a look back into your perfect past, they would find imperfections. Doesn't mean they are a bad person to marry.
can we stop using the word crushed, is that an east coast thing or something. its pretty lame.
i have lived in ny my entire life and never heard it until i came on this site. i dont think its an east coast thing
i think its a douchebag thing
didn't any of you see chris rock's monologue on this?? what the fuck are they teaching in schools these days???
Girls are so deceiving. They should account for more of the sales jobs on Wall Street. I've met girls that look like an angel sent from heaven that have had 20+ sexual partners and I've met girls that look like prostitutes, but are in fact virgins.
The whole "crushed" and "railed" thing is retarded. I think some people on this site watch too much porn.
....too much porn exists??
Chocolate dipping, haha that's great, haven't heard that before.
You guys are thinking about this in an unnecessarily arcane manner. By having sex with her and "knowing"... that has nothing to do with tightness of vagina or anything physical. It is simply reflecting on how easily you laid her, comparing your social skills to others, and extrapolating. Like the "how many basketballs fit in a 747 jet" interview question. Promiscuity should not be how you judge someone anyways, both bitches and sweet girls can be promiscuous.
I like girls that like it. Hell, I tell them to bring their girlfriend if they want.
Can Geico really save you 15% or more on car insurance? Is a bird in a hand worth two in the bush?
......
So... How many basketballs do fit in a 747? I'm gonna have to say alot.
4) How many STD's you catch at once...
Why is this thread still going on?? You can't know her "crush number" because -
1) Like someone already mentioned, the vagina is capable of tightening....
2) If she's particularly good in bed, there may be another explanation - like she dances, or just is naturally talented
3) If you can't handle a girl with a high "crush" number (whatever that might be for you), and want to value that over everything else, you're probably not her type either.
And don't even try to say "crushing" in front a female. Obviously to be respectful, but also - very very bad mental image... Now you all probably picture something different, but let me tell you it's not the same on the other side...
"churning" then. that's in the pdf kama sutra
there's also surgery for this
i like crush though. good word. churn snatch? hmm. reminds me of that cheese making documentary where the heidis use big wooden rods to stir vats of cheese or something
ps i used the lock and key in daily speech yesterday. great saying.
Actually surgery's for faking virginity - similar, but fundamentally different...
no, you can tighten that up
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vaginoplasty
1) No you won't. There are so many variables that come into play in determining how a girl "appears" in bed. Ie, her being loose vs tight has nothing to do with the number of men she's slept with or the size of their dicks. If she's really turned on, she'll likely be more loose. More than anything it's about how she's naturally built.
As far as how good she is in bed... if she's athletic, has dancing experience, has had a long-term boyfriend, how into you she is, etc all contribute to that.
2) Like? Are you looking at the light notches on her belt?
3) You're not going to get even close to an actual number through her friends. Even if her friends wanted to be completely honest with you (which they won't be), girls LIE to their friends about their number. You guys think that the girl you're banging has been with less than 10 guys? If she's out of college, it's likely higher than that...
can't pass up this opportunity
woops double posted, anyway watch the dumb youtube vid
Doesn't everyone. Actually was thinking about this topic the other day.
Rule of thumb: 1. Divide any guy's stated number by 3 2. Multiply any girl's stated number by 3
Eh. I lie about my number to girls (on the downside). The only time it's come up is with girls that I want to get into something more serious with.
I would say divide a guy's number by ~1.5. I don't know many guys who would say they've slept with 30 girls, but in reality only had 10. Saying 15 when you've only had 10 seems a lot more likely. It's pretty easy to tell who can pull tail and who can't... exaggerating by 3x seems too tough to pull off. However, girls are sneaky as shit and I'd certainly multiply their number by 3. I've met so many girls who have been with "5 or 6" guys and I know that's complete bullshit. For one, if you've slept with less than 10 people, you'll know exactly how many and exactly who they are and won't need to give me an approximation. Second, if you're attractive and haven't been in a long-term, faithful relationship, then you'd have to be some kind of extreme prude for that to be true (especially given that I generally talk to girls in their ~mid 20s, implying a one guy per year average). If that's the case... then goodbye. For the right girl, I'll certainly wait a few dates / weeks (and those are pretty rare... especially because if there's an intense connection it leads to sex very quickly), but I'm not going to wait around for someone who can't let themselves enjoy the sack... For that matter, can't date a girl unless the sex is fantastic (obviously much more to it than that, but it's one of the requirements).
we should be friends. definitely second that point that chicks are sneaky as fuck and like getting their cooter smashed in general. great reasoning chains though
Let me get this straight, you are close 50% of the time?
For all these dudes who are claiming that this is not a big issue, you should get some fucking self respect already. You're working you asses off for a chick when loads of other guys have gone through her without even knowing her name and she couldn't get enough of it. Just think of that when you're putting in the hours at work.
Secondly, I think that if you're going to marry a chick, then she really needs to inspire you - i.e. motivate you to go out and build a fucking empire. Unfortunately, slags don't do this.
...that might be your particular situation.
This thread is ridiculous.
"Just think of that when you're putting in the hours at work."
definitely feel this way
Ha, so you equate women who sleep with men as slags. Are you a virgin? 8 maybe 9 women you've had the experience to sleep with? Women like sex as much as we do. Get over it.
When you get out of college everything meshes together kiddo. There aren't the 'sorority' sluts who are a joke and there aren't going to be a perfect group of ladies to whom no one has slept with. You say you look for a girl who 'inspires you'. Does this inspiration include late night talks with her about how many men she has slept with? That's fucking non-sense and all grown men know it.
You end up with women who make you happy. Any grown man who's been with a woman will tell you he'd trade a moment of happiness if that meant he had to find out who his woman has slept with all her life. At that point where you're making lots of money, the last thing you give a fuck about is how many men your wife slept with in college. As stereotypical and corny as it sounds, men choose women who make them happy when all is said and done. The rest is gravy.
Yep
30... in all four years... I thought that wasn't that many... I mean you have atleast 3 nights a weekend... multiple weekends per year.
most of my guy friends (im not) are around that number so i don't think its unreasonable for lots of girls to have slept with 30 different guys by senior year
I picked 30 to be a high number, I forgot US college is alot crazier than our european equivalents. Maybe make that 100 to get high number for the US lol.
I also second clarkey. Chicks are commodities, and one that has slept with shitloads of men is just not worth alot since its easily obtainable.
Puppy, you cant really compare guy and girl numbers one to one, since the male distribution is much more skewed than the female distribution.
if a girl fucked 30 different guys in four years of college that is a different guy every month that she is in school. i think by every measure that is pretty slutty.
yeah i think that's a slut.
i don't think it's a huge deal. i try to never ask. i don't want to know because it's usually a number i wouldn't like to hear
if a slut's hot enough i'd do her. but i'd think twice about staying long term with her.
some of you guys misunderstand. we don't want virgins. we don't want epic sluts. we just don't want the girls that have fucked like there's no tomorrow. sure most girls love sex. i'm not saying 'we want virgins'. don't straw-man the argument
some people like women with more discretion over one with less. it's just a matter of preference. that's it. if you like long-terming with promiscuous women, then good for you. do whatever you want.
Some of you guys sound like a bunch of fucking virgins.
Question to everyone then: how many guys would you expect a girl to be with before you (for girlfriend material)?
this is a question someone asks when they don't get butt regularly. If a girl asked you what would YOU do?
Most guys i know don't want to date the drunk girl at the party who all the frat guys used to take advantage of, and most girls I know don't want to date the frat guy who takes advantage of the drunk girl. Maybe they are meant for each other...
I would like to put out these questions - Would a girl like to marry or be with a man who has slept with other girls before her? Wouldn't a girl prefer a man with more discretion ? Would a girl be ok to be with a guy whose penis and hands are felt by many other girls out there before her ?
Any self-respecting girl wouldn't want to be with a man who has been a male whore in the past or slept around a lot. No decent girl would be impressed to know the fact that you have "CRUSHED" XYZ number of boxes before her. As a matter of fact, guys sleep around more than girls do. Why not ask these questions to yourself to know yourself before asking a girl and bothering yourself about her past sex life.
I don't sleep with a girl unless they've been with at least 10 guys in the past year.
lacks you would haha
Why be with a guy you have to lie to? Would rather be single or actually date a guy that is emotionally mature. Amirite? And my answer is 7.
You're different because you're actually mature though, and you've proven that with all your other posts here. I doubt the whole "let me crush tonight" works well with you anyway.
If a girl has slept with a decent number of guys because she enjoys sex, it's only a problem if she has herpes or if she'll continue to do so while dating you. If she's slept with a lot of guys because she is insecure and has low self esteem, THAT IS A PROBLEM. In my experience, the latter is usually the one with more notches. That isn't to say I haven't been with girls who've slept with a lot of guys because she enjoys sex. I have, and they're typically pretty good at what they enjoy.
Either way, if a girl is insecure and has low self esteem -- will I bang her? Yes. Will I make her my girl? No. At the end of the day, if I'm dating a girl who has been around the block, it probably won't bother me because I've already verified she isn't an insecure psycho.
hahahah finally some common sense guys who are 20+ aren't having sex with no one... and to ask a girl how many times is just foolish to think she is going to tell you the truth. Are you going to tell her you'd had sex with 35 girls don't think so.
if you want to fuck her and she lays down for you...after 3 drinks... don't think that it was her first time.... simple as that.
Clearly a bunch of dudes here trying to justify the fact that they've ended up with left over scraps. What's up with your self respect, man? How do your egos take it? I
Dude.
Why are you so fucking insecure? You have this weird fucked up obsession with wanting to be one of the only guys a girl can sleep with. It's like you can't take the hit that a girl would want to sleep with other guys besides you.
You should seriously seek therapy.
Pretty fucked up to refer to a woman as a "scrap". You seem very insecure. You either have a very small dick or below par sex skills.
Clarkey so what is the point you are getting, guys should ask a girl they want to have sex with in one night whether or not they are a virgin?
the argument that there lots of guys that slept with 30+ chicks so there must be lots of women is incorrect.
The male distribution is skewed, few men sleep with all women.
Stop hating on Clarkey, the less men a women has slept with, the more difficult to attain she is, hence the more value she is(assuming shes actually good looking and doesn't have a totally rotten personality).
What I believe this may come down to is the fact that Clarkey lives in the UK(is that correct? I remember some post by you indicating so), and the guys he argues with being american.
And from my few excursions to the states, girls there are ALOT easier to get with than in Europe. Altough that maybe the accent, who knows.
This is totally incorrect. If a girl is hot and enjoys sex she will probably have had many sexual partners.
The prettiest girls are the prettiest girls period. How many dudes she's slept with has no impact on that or her personality.
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