The Why Vs. The What - GOOGL Vs. AAPL

I was looking over some of my longer-term investments the other day (particularly AAPL and GOOGL) and was trying to pin point why I decided, some time ago now, to go long on Google and short on Apple. What it came down to was more of a feeling (I know, I know, what’s wrong with me?). But it was based around this idea that companies, especially now, and particularly in tech, need to win people over more than just sell great products.

The sentiment of the masses towards tech companies have proven to be oh-so-important in their success. We trust these companies with our most valuable data. They track our every move, our searches, our phone calls, our driving habits, our lifestyles, and even our moods (thanks to social media). And what we are giving them is valuable. Incredibly valuable. So it makes sense that if we are going to give this nearly priceless information away, as well as our sense of privacy, we expect to “feel good” about them.

Sure, all legit companies have some level of privacy settings, agreements not to sell your data, etc. And yet, sentiment towards companies continues to be a driving force in regards to their successes and failures.

Then I found this TedX Talk.

It was from 2009, and ironically uses Apple as a prime example of a company who is getting it right. The TL;DR? Companies motivate people to support them not by their products alone, but by their message. The typical company tells you what they are selling, they tell you how they made this amazing product, and then may or may not explain why they made it. Usually they are satisfied with saying why you need to purchase it instead.

Simon Sinek argues that companies (like Apple in 2009) sell in reverse. They tell you who they are. They tell you why they are passionate about the things they are passionate about. And after you listen and you believe in them, after you buy their mission statement, they tell you how they made their product, and then finally what it is. Per his argument, by the time you get to the what it is phase, it shouldn’t even matter what they are selling. You believe in them already, and you want to know what can buy from them.

This makes a lot of sense to me, as I said, specifically now, and specifically in tech. It elucidates my own thoughts about how certain companies would perform much more eloquently than I could. And so, this “feeling” I had now feels less ludicrous (it also feels pretty good that I was right).

But as obvious as this seems, not everyone seems to see things in this manner. For example, this article, from April of 2015 argues that Apple was poised to be a winner in the future, while Google was poised to be a loser.

Why?

Well there were plenty of good reasons at the time. Chiefly among them, Galloway argues that Apple boasts a great price point for a luxury item, its products are globally recognizable, they have expanding margins, etc. Google, on the other hand, has Amazon as a competitor for a lot of its business, is not winning the cell phone race monetarily, and has several major failures under its belt (he points out Google+ and Google Glass).

In terms of cell phone profitability, during that general time period, there were a number of articles, like this one from 2013 with all kinds of marvelous graphs that show how Apple is capitalizing despite a shrinking market share, and this one explaining how Apple is able to remain ahead of Google's Android despite a much smaller research and development budget. There are far more examples, just do a Google search (pun intended).

But what happened?

Since April 10th 2015, the day after Galloway’s article was published, GOOGL rose 47.56%, while AAPL fell 10.35%.

Again, why?

Simon Sinek was probably right about Apple in 2009, before the death of Jobs among other things, But major changes have taken place, both in terms of the role of technology in our lives as well the founding principles of the companies in question.

While Apple was once the lead innovator of new things tech-wise, they seem to have changed course somewhere along the way. Sure, millions of people around the world still eagerly await the release of the new iPhone iteration, but what else are they doing? They have approximately 150 billion dollars overseas, sitting in securities, and a lot of debt at home. Sure, it works for their balance sheet, but what is it doing for the public who is ever-demanding more? How does it prove that the brilliant “Why” they once had, the desire to innovate, to change the world, to integrate technology into our lives in a way that we couldn’t imagine living without it, still exists?

But if you turn to Google, all you see is future tech. From robots to self-driving cars, to internet for the world through atmospheric balloons. Will all of these extraneous projects be fruitful? Of course not. Are some of them huge flops? Absolutely. But their message is loud and clear. They believe in a future that is amazing, where things we can’t even fathom become commonplace, and they are putting their money where their mouth is.

It is this vision of the future that I fell in love with, that I imagined others would fall in love with, and propel Google's success forward. And it is the very opposite for Apple, the death of the why, the repetitive cycles of iPhone releases that have minimal upgrades and no foreseeable change, that I imagined others would notice. The love affair with Apple is dying, but Google's is still taking off.

Now I’m not at all arguing that Apple is dying as a company. As Galloway mentions at the end of his article, either of these companies could lose for ten straight years and still be immensely important. I'm also not arguing that any company with good ideas will be wildly successful and vice versa. Traditional markers do still matter, a company's actual ability to succeed and grow is still important.

But I do feel as though something is changing, a new Zeitgeist is upon us, where numbers and profitability aren’t everything. Where the role of ideas and mission statements is growing, and perhaps some day will reign supreme.

The Why is suddenly fighting back against the What. And I, for one, as a proud owner of the failed Google Glass experiment, find it fascinating.

I’d love to hear your thoughts, as always.

Until next time,
This is The Uncontortionist.

 

Hey jec,

I am not trying to insinuate that profitability and traditional markers of success are no longer relevant. I'm merely pointing out that among two major companies who are both in strong positions no matter what happens (almost), I feel as though what is currently driving success is more than just balance sheets, but also love for the company and shared ideals.

Thanks for reading.

 

I agree C.R.E. Shervin. This is the exact sentiment that I feel has been growing for some time, that, despite APPL being a powerhouse numbers wise, I would rather put my money where the innovation and excitement is, as I feel it is driving markets and sales at a much higher rate than in the past/in non-tech sectors.

 

Well yes, dontbugme. This is true.

If the point of the article was the tell you what happened over the last 18+ months in a recap fashion, you would be 100% right, it would be extremely verbose. But as someone who trades stocks and generally tries to understand decisions (my own and others) as well as trends (both market and cultural), I really had no intention of merely recapping what happened. What I find interesting was that 18+ months ago it seemed almost a consensus that Apple was poised for more growth, that it was able to handle the growth better, and that it had a product that had less of a direct competitor. Google, of course, had the opposite.

If you don't find that interesting, I apologize for wasting your time. But thank you for reading my article anyway.

 

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Pretty interesting article on Google, particularly Google X last week that seems relevant to this discussion. The most telling quite IMO was a former executive who said "No on wants to face the reality that this is an advertising company with a bunch of hobbies."

There certainly are "cult" stocks out there (looking at you TSLA) where enough people want to own it because its cool or have an eccentric CEO (still looking at you TSLA) and I think Google can certainly be put into this category; which i think is what OP was alluding to in his new "Zeitgeist".

 

Agree 100% that GOOGL is the type of company you can buy now and just keep in the drawer for another 30 years.

What do you guys think about GoPro? Seriously thinking about going long (either through LEAPS or just plain long or a combination). It was obvious it was bubbly before and seemed that the stock was riding the "me-too" wave of tech-IPOs. However, I find it cheap nowadays and have the impression that management tries hard to maintain "tier-1 status" in the tech & camera space. What I like more is that they are trying to develop an eco-system attached with the cameras they sell which really differentiates them and may bring some monetization opportunities. To clarify, I wouldn't go long with narrow objectives such as "2Q17 results beats estimates" but something more long term: e.g. 3 years horizon where they have solidified their business (or not) and developed some new products etc. It's the type of stock that really strikes my fear of "missing out".

Colourful TV, colourless Life.
 

I personally think the ecosystem is a bit overhyped in terms of its monetization abilities. This has been something harped by GPRO bulls for probably the last two years (GPRO the social media company). At the end of the day, its pretty challenging to create a new social media platform especially when it isn't your core business. GoPro has a great YouTube page with 4mm+ subscribers, but at the end of the day this probably isn't going to move the needle on a $1bn company.

If they aren't acquired by someone like Google, Apple, Snapchat or Microsoft, i see them going down one of two paths: A race to the bottom with other, lower priced competitors or the leader in the niche action sports market. In either case, i think there are better options out there for consumer tech.

 

Why are we comparing Google to Apple and not Facebook?

FB scares me regarding Google's long term outlook. This coming from a person who hates FB (has no account) and loves Google (owns a Nexus 5X, will be getting the next Pixel or whatever is after). If Google is really just an advertisement company with a bunch it little hobbies it hopes will gain traction, than FB is the main competitor IMO.

Having said that, if Google eventually wins out in the Mobile hardware/OS space against Apple, in a fashion similar to the 1990's Microsoft win over Apple in business and personal computing software, then obviously Google will be a stock to own for the next 20-30 years.

Just a few thoughts.

 
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Adapt or die,

You're right in many ways here. I think if we were comparing companies that were direct competitors of sorts it would make more sense to compare Google to both Facebook and Amazon. These companies do pose a legitimate threat in my opinion. Amazon steals a lot of Google's online sales and Facebook is monopolizing more and more of people's (online) lives in general.

Still I don't think anyone has a clear edge on Google of all four mentioned companies, as Google is kind of in every space right now and a very well loved company with big ideas and strong foundations. But that's neither here nor there.

To answer your question more directly, I was only comparing them as perfect examples of companies who have traded places in terms of ideals and general market sentiment. Apple was once a great innovator turned phone manufacturer, and Google was once a search engine turned future defining company.

But good comment and your concern and observations are valid.

 

Sorry mate, dead wrong.

I can name 10 points, but I'll just name 2.

1) Actually check out the new apple products. They're amazing. Media is just incredibly biased against. Touch bar on new mac was beautiful and extremely intuitive (despite what media claims). 2) Google Vs. Apple, which has more security? Which do you trust more with your information. They come out with self-driving cars, which are likely to be hackable and can be programmed to crash. Who do you think people would trust with their lives?

Let me hear you say, this shit is bananas, B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
 

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