To all the women in banking
I have never been someone who has ever let being the only woman in the room let it get to her. I work in markets and on the floor there's only a handful women in senior positions and on the analyst level, none. I was shadowing my first virtual client meeting and taking notes. No one on my team introduced me. But this woman who is our client spoke to me and finally I had a chance to say something. If there is anything that I have realized, it is to NOT WAIT AROUND TO BE INTRODUCED. JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF. SIT ON THE FUCKING TABLE. I don't know why I thought I should just stay quiet until I am introduced because the truth no one will do it until you do. I want all you amazing women to share some of the tips that have helped you in your career and what you wish you could do differently!
Sorry - but men in junior position rarely get introduced as well in client calls, especially if with many people. I really don't think this has anything to do with your gender.
Just to be clear it was a zoom session with four people including me
the same applies
i'm a male analyst and sometimes no one introduces me in small zoom client meetings either - not a big deal dude
Maybe there are 1000 other reasons these people acted a way that has nothing to do with your gender. Maybe people act in their own ways largely without thinking of others. Maybe.
Glad you realized that you can take initiative and introduce yourself though.
No shit you’re supposed to introduce yourself, lol. That should have started when you were ~10.
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If you’re an analyst with 0 to contribute to the conversation besides “Hi my name is whatever and I’m an analyst” you don’t need to be introduced. If it’s a small call the VP or whoever’s leading it should say you have X and Y from the Z team or something along those lines. I wouldn’t read too much into it until you’re an associate.
I also introduce myself and tell everyone on the call that i'm an incoming cfa lefel 1 charterholder of the cfa program of institute
lol nice username
Great comedy. Really great.
sir that is a violation of Standard VII(b)
Okay so maybe hijacking the thread here, but do any other girls in IB sometimes feel like everyone stares on them on the video call (when the rest of your team is all male and the client team is all guys too)? I’ve been on calls where like the client apologies specifically to me after swearing... it feels so uncomfortable that I just want to leave video off?
If you’re hot, they’re definitely staring at you.
+1
The fuck else am I supposed to look at in my college zoom classes? The 70 year old prof? No thanks.
Re: people specifically calling you out, it’s weird you mentioned that because it happens to me all the time too. I’ll be on a call with all men and someone from management will curse and then say sorry specifically to me, or a lawyer will say “you guys... And girl.” It doesn’t bother me but sometimes makes it more awkward when they acknowledge it rather than just carrying on the convo.
People like the OP are the reason this happens. Specifically the second one you mentioned. Can't have it both ways
Thank you! Relief to know it’s not just me
Part of a lawyers job is to be as verbose as possible.
Part of a lawyers job is to be as verbose as possible. Don’t be surprised.
How do you know you specifically are being stared at on a zoom call?
This is way too funny, she must be really addicted to being the center of attention to feel like people are staring at her just because they're making eye contact with their webcams....
On some catch up calls with clients my MD, a woman, tells me not to go on video. When we were in office and taking calls in meeting rooms, I'm normally not near the mic unless I have something to contribute. This post contains horrible advice for all juniors in finance and perhaps most juniors in any Front office role of any kind. Not only will you come off as arrogant to certain clients, you will most likely piss off your manager.
If not being introduced is a concern to you, bring it up with whoever your manager is. It may have just been an oversight. Maybe your boss is a dick. But please, for your own sake/self preservation, do not do this.
TBH I love not being introduced on a call because then it means I don't have to answer questions and can take notes in peace
This. If my MD introduces me then fine. I usually just respond when the host says “Who just joined” but other than that its not necessary just listen in and take notes. Remember that your MD brought the client in...
This is terrible advice. As an analyst you should be assertive anywhere and everywhere except for client situations. You are only involved there for analytical support if needed.
If you are persecuted based on gender that is a different topic and you should address it. There are many firms where that would never be an issue. Personally I don’t care about anything other than desk performance. I’ve hired more female analysts than males, but it is 100% predicated on anticipated performance.
Yell MY NAME IS WOMAN! HEAR ME ROAR! I AM STRONG! the next time you’re on a call with an important client of your boss and see how they react
Now I understand why nobody wants to have sex with finance chicks. That other thread makes sense!
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