Tony Robbins - what's your opinion?

I've always been extremely wary of guys like him, particularly when they have something to sell.

I'm know he may have some solid advice but I've always avoided listening to him directly - I usually prefer it to be first filtered through the voices I already trust (e.g. via podcasts I've been following for years)

I saw a short video of his on youtube yesterday that I liked so I thought i'd look into adding a playlist of some of his videos on youtube.

Everyone needs a good playlist of motivational videos.. so WSO, Can I trust this guy?

What % of what you've heard of him do you like vs what % seems like BS?

How salesy is he?

ps always loved this joke, can't remember which comedian unfortunately: "I prefer the "gurus" i follow to be dead so I know they never went crazy and/or started a cult"

 

I agree with CREShervin and also prefer to follow people who have areas of expertise in specific areas.

I don't like his shorts, but I do like that he seeks out experts in areas he is not familiar with in order to address certain topics.

Tony Robins is NOT YOUR GURU!

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no not at all (re did i hear about him from Ferriss' book) , was just a random video someone shared on facebook. tony's methodology for something was similar to some research i'd heard related to hypnotherapy for overcoming roadblocks etc

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I am not a fan of his but I heard how he helped those who are in need using his profits from selling his books plus his personal donation to Feeding America. I think that's remarkable.

 

His story about giving money to a random kid so he can feed his mother just doesn't add up. How come after all these years of fame nobody came forward to thank him for that act of kindness.

He, Guy Kawasaki are in the same boat. They are marketing geniuses.

Master public speaking, persuasion and you can do a lot of damage in this world.

 

You are looking at Tony? Go to the source. Dan Pena is way more personally successful, was a finance/oil bro, and quite frankly is a much scary motherfucker. The dude was a private military contractor for the CIA who was leading the CIAs project of starting a war with Cuba until the plug was pulled. He claims to have killed a bear with a pistol and knife. He was recently on the Joe Rogan podcast, give it a listen if you want.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

Great episode. I was worried Joe would start asking too many questions about the details of how markets work since he doesn't understand finances at all and it would get annoying, but it was really enjoyable. Dude is cool as hell. Does he have a podcast of his own or has he been on any others I should check out?

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People go to Tony Robbins for motivation not his opinion on astrodynamics. Same thing here, who gives a fuck what someone thinks about X if you go for G. This conflation of feelings everyone seems to have these days is going to be the fucking downfall of progress society we have created.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

AndyLouis not a fan at all. Guys like him and others such as Gerry V (whatever his name is...he's all over Facebook) offer very little in terms of actionable advice and most of it is crap we know but don't seem to understand until we fork over $$$$.

The reason they're successful is they made a business around "teaching" others how to be successful. Just short of a pyramid scheme in encouraging others to get into the "self-help" market.

 

agreed completely, I still think the best motivational tools are things that happen in your personal life and how you turn those around in your favor into being obsessed with something and mastering it. YouTube and Instagram videos just don't cut it for me anymore.

 

I think you should give Gary Vee another try. I am completely turned off from any 'motivational gurus' who don't have any real expertise other than great persuasion and speaking skills, but Gary is an entrepreneur who actually created many successful businesses.

He almost always offers real practical advice, opposed as to what you may have thought (example: Complain about having no money? Go ebay/garage sale flipping on your free time, here is a video of me showing you how to actually do it)

 

RedRage Clearly you don't know anything about any of the two. Both run multiple businesses. Tony has a net worth in the hundreds of millions and is a coach of some of the top financiers in the world. Besides, he does a ton of charity. Gary Vaynerchuck ("Gary V.") only started talking about businesses after being 32 years old. By that time he already turned his father €3million revenue company into a €60million revenue in the space of 5 years. He currently owns a company valued at €400million and is also a very known VC investor. He invested in Twitter, Uber, Facebook, Tumblr, whatever made money in social..

Most importantly, both came from extremely poor backgrounds.

Before you talk shit, check what you are talking about.

 

This. Every single rant I did here on education or guru bullshit on WSO is exactly this.

Guru's are Pharisees who think they hold the magic sauce to enlightenment. Except anyone who can think can open up their gates of enlightenment themselves without paying someone else. All they have to do is think for themselves which is Free!

But, if you are a dumbass and follow the herd then by all means listen to someone else who repackaged basic knowledge and common sense for you after the liberation of late night informercials in the 80s to and rose to fame (Robbins).

Tai Lopez, Gary Vaynerchuk, Tim Sykes, etc are all in this realm right now. It's very sad.

 

I sort of equate him to Dave Ramsey. They both can say with certainty that their work has helped others but personally I find both FOS and have made their money off weaker minded people.

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
 

Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Except the latter isn't a monthly subscription or some SaaS type model that runs on perpetuity so why would anyone that's a guru teach anyone how to fish?

 

Tony fan here.

When I'm burnt out on music or my usual podcasts, I'm occasionally inclined to throw on some Tony. Hour of Power, Awaken the Giant, etc... It's positive, it's uplifting, it's inspirational and to top it all off, the dudes got a voice straight from the gods. It's essentially self-help books distilled and synthesized with some great public speaking syntactical-sugar sprinkled on top that makes for an easy listen.

A lot of Tony's content is available on YouTube. The guy makes money off selling his brand -- who cares? Respect the man's hustle.

The guy's delivery of self-help content via audio does it for me. That said, I've read MONEY master the game which was very long-winded and sales-y.

 

Here in my garage, just bought this new Lamborghini here. It’s fun to drive up here in the Hollywood hills. But you know what I like more than materialistic things? Knowledge. In fact, I’m a lot more proud of these seven new bookshelves that I had to get installed to hold two thousand new books that I bought. It’s like the billionaire Warren Buffett says, “the more you learn, the more you earn.”

 

I interned at a commercial bank last summer, lots of great people. One day we get called into this meeting with "a motivational speaker". We walk in and sit down, in comes this tall Indian version of BJ Novak wearing a black v-neck showing off noob gains from the gym, and black trousers. He begins by pepping us up, and informs us that our employer brought him in today to help optimize our performance. He claims to have worked on wall street but gave it up after meeting Tony Robbins and becoming one of his "associates". He gets us to do things like jumping up and giving ourselves high-fives, getting people to address their short-comings at work, and makes us fill-out a "life-wheel" that shows how we think we're performing in various aspects of our lives. Its stuff we all think about regardless, but I guess it was nice to write it down. Then at the very end, he told us that he would give us a special deal for our office. Anyone who came to see Tony during his scheduled weekend appearance would only have to pay $800 instead of $1000. Mind you, these were for the nosebleed seats in the auditorium. All the non SVP-level employees walked out of there thinking "yeah... no thanks", but this one SVP who carried himself like a philosophical out-of-the-box thinker was not only completely sold, but made it mandatory for all AVP's and SVP's to go with him and I think they paid out of pocket. Apparently it was like a 3-day pep rally where he spewed common tropes about always doing the best you can and being persistent. The news covered how 20 or so people went to the hospital for walking on coals lol.

 
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He hasn’t accomplished anything outside of motivating people. Preachers inspire people too. I’m still not religious. I’m plenty motivated so I’m not interested in anything these guys are pushing. So I felt neutral about him until I saw this:

In his Netflix special he’s speaking in front of a big crowd, pumping them up and shit, and he invites this one woman up to the stage. He asks her what’s troubling her in her life or what she can’t make up her mind about and she says it’s her relationship: She’s not sure whether she should stay or leave.

Tony has her call her husband on the phone right there and then and tells her to end it right there. She does and everyone’s cheering and crying and shit, convinced she just made the right move. Nobody in that fucking room, Tony included, knew shit about her or her relationship. Maybe they were having a rough patch. Maybe a million fucking reasons. That’s a decision that should be deliberated and made carefully, not something you do because some charismatic cock with a nice jawline and a deep voice pressures you into doing it in front of a thousand people.

He’s praying on gullible people. Fuck him for that. Game recognize game, but fuck him. There are better hustles.

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My opinion is that Tony Robbins is not for everyone. For the few that do like him understand his core principles and feel they can implement them yielding measurable results. Others think he's another BS motivational scam artists.

One thing you have to realize about Tony Robbins is his track record. That, I put a lot of value in. He coached Bill Clinton the day he was supposed to get impeached, Andre Agassi, Paul Tudor Jones (still is, gets a piece of his performance fee - I think), and the list goes on. In an interview, I watched he told the interviewer that all of his companies combined generate 5b a year with thousands of employees nationally and internationally. With no degree, growing up in an abusive home, homeless, broke, surviving in SoCal to now being one of the leading performance coaches today I think there are a few things you can learn from him.

Personally, some of his NLP and chanting stuff is a little weird, but I look for what I think can be applicable in my life and use that. For example, He often preaches about knowing why you want X in life and then consistently going after it. Most of you on this forum probably already know that, but I occasionally come across posts of "I have 3.0 GPA senior year em I fu@#ked"? Stuff like this could help when life kicks you in the balls. Just have to filter through what doesn't resonate with you.

I also volunteered with Basket Brigade a few years back, the company he owns and feeds the homeless through. I can tell you it was pretty life changing. Seeing homeless and low-income people get excited about a $30 worth of food to feed their entire family when I might spend that on drinks and appetizers here in NY put things in an uncomfortable but unique perspective.

 
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I'll leave this here...

Placebo effect is real. He helps people believe in themselves. That's about it.
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He is very "salesey" and while from time to time he comes up with something good I usually just avoid him and his type. Having said that, I don't wish him ill or anything. A man has to eat and he found an easy way to make a living by convincing folks to pay top dollar for what he has to say. Great racket if you can get into it. :)

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Many years ago I read part of one of his books. here was some useful information in it. the thing i remember most was based on nutrition. certain combinations of food groups kill your energy, other enhance it. great for avoiding food coma in key meetings....

 

At least he's the real deal. So I guess there's some value, since people are willing to pay.

What drives me up the fucking wall are all the unknown get-rich-quick motivational speakers. You know the type: You've never heard of them before, but they're all "Best selling authors", "Retired before 20", "TED X Speaker", and whatnot. You google them, and the only things you can find are their articles on business insider, entrepreneur, and sites like that.

Then you check out their books on Amazon, and they have like 32 reviews combined. You trawl through google for their startups or successful businesses, but nope. Nothing to find there.

Their articles are usually just regurgitated/condensed lists with info they've lifted from the most famous self-help books. And they love, love, LOVE to make the same "XX ways rich people think differently". The more I see of these people, the more cynical I get about the whole motivational and self-help industry.

I get that some people need external motivation or inspiration to get going, but the wast majority of that business seems like a sham. Mostly schemes to sell shitty e-books and seminars.

 

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