I was recently accepted to both UNC Kenan-Flagler & Georgetown McDonough and need to decide which to attend. I'm a career switcher with 5+ years of operations/supply chain experience in aerospace & defense and would like to break into IBD. I know neither are targets, but which do you think provides the best chance?
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lots of Kenam-Flaglers in Charlotte
Personally I would go UNC
Any particular reason or just personal preference?
UNC as well.
UNC is target at a lot of firms and gets a ton of looks into Charlotte. I know we compete with UNC all the time for recruitment in BB's in NYC and elite firms in the south. Georgetown is a great school, but for some reason it seems to be less desired by firms at the moment.
Plus UNC is full of super hot girls and has a great party scene whereas I personally think Georgetown has some seriously weird kids.
I'm assuming you go to Darden?
More babes at UNC.
UNC is a better choice. With Duke just 8 miles up the road and Chapel Hill/Durham not being easy to get to, most of the buldge-bracket investment banks will recruit at both schools, since they are taking the trouble to visit Duke.
UNC...for all of the reasons listed above.
Regards
Will be going there. I have good contacts at the school and have seen all the recruitment data.
Trust me, go to UNC. You will not regret it and the girls are incredible. You will have a walk into Charlotte (assuming you are qualified) and NYC is very much an option.
UNC
I guess this isn't as close of an argument as I had previously thought...
I imagine it depends on whether you want to go to NY or Charlotte. I think only BAML and Wells have Charlotte offices.
As for NY, I did my summer associate internship at JPM last year. I do not recall a single UNC MBA, but there were 4 or 5 from Georgetown's MBA. I was kind of surprised, but Gtown undergrad is strong on the street, so the MBA might be getting a bump from that.
Note, I did my undergrad at Georgetown so I am more likely to remember Gtown students.
UNCofGTown -
Congratulations on your acceptance into two great programs. I am currently a first year MBA candidate and a Student Ambassador at Georgetown's McDonough School of Business. I have read some of the posts and recommendations, and I want to encourage you to look more into Georgetown.
If you are looking into IBanking, I think Georgetown is a great choice. NYC is very accessible by bus - trust me, lots of my classmates made the trek up to New York for informationals. We have some top firms recruiting on campus - JPM, Goldman, Citi, Bank of America Merrill Lynch, BMO, and Wells...
Feel free to reach out to me: [email protected] - and ask for Abner. We have a collaborative culture here at Georgetown, and I am more than happy to also put you in touch with some of my classmates who recently went through the recruitment process to give you their perspective. If you're local, come to Welcome Weekend on April 13th and 14th and see for yourself!
abner
Georgetown was recruiting really heavily by Wells this year. I think they took like 5 people. Wells 'only' took 3 from UNC. Obviously there are many more firms other than Wells and my guess is the MM firms in Charlotte are going to be much more likely to scoop up a UNC grad than one from Georgetown, but that is merely speculation.
Regards
I ultimately would prefer NYC to Charlotte (ideally I'd like to be on the West coast since I'm from Cali, but I doubt that's very realistic).
From the students I've talked to (roughly 3-5 from each school, so small sample size), the Gtown students seem to have a harder time getting associate positions if they didn't have previous banking/finance experience. Most of the UNC students had non traditional backgrounds (school teacher, engineer, art director, etc.) and were able to secure summer internships in NYC/Charlotte.
The only reason this isn't a slam dunk for UNC is that I've always heard that there's tons of Gtown guys on Wall St - but I'm assuming most of those are undergrads...
Dude, why would you want to live in Charlotte?
Go big or go home. Go to Gtown then go to NYC not friggin' Charlotte.
I actually don't want to live in Charlotte (probably wouldn't mind the cost of living though). But I'd be ok with Charlotte if it was for IB. I don't want to move across the country to go to Gtown and then end up working some corportate finance gig at AMEX (seeing as how I could just go to UCLA or USC and get that same corporate finance job and not uproot my life).
UNCorGTown -
I am actually from Southern California. I went to UCLA for undergrad, and I was a history and sociology major. I made the trek out to the East Coast because I wanted a new experience. Yes, I did have to uproot my life, but that was pretty exciting. And aside from discovering that I too suffer from allergies, my experience on the East Coast, and in DC specifically, has been phenomenal.
I want to revisit a previous post - you mentioned that the UNC students who had received offers from Wells had non-traditional backgrounds, whereas the Georgetown students who received offers had prior finance experience. I think the strength of a candidate really depends on the individual. You really can't say that simply going to a program (such as UNC without prior banking experience) will provide the inroads to IBanking. I can understand your apprehensions of going back to school and not landing the dream job. Going back to school doesn't guarantee that you get your dream job. It does however, strengthen your skill sets for future jobs and switching careers.
While most of our students at Georgetown find themselves doing IBanking in NYC or Charlotte after graduation, there are some opportunities on the West Coast. We have a couple students going to UBS in SF. Again, feel free to reach out to me, and I'll be happy to put you in touch with my classmates.
Abner
I think the point he was making, and you may have caught it, is that he wants to go to the school that will give him the best opportunity to get into a good IB position...obviously. The issue for the OP is that he has a non-traditional background and what he doesn't want to do is look at the raw numbers and say, "Per capita, Georgetown sends more kids into IB than UNC does" only to realize that all/most of the kids from Georgetown already have fiance experience/background...which could make him much less competitive than going head-to-head with students at UNC that mostly have non-finance backgrounds. Of course, you probably won't know your actual class composition until it's too late, but using the most recent data is what everyone has to go on when deciding where to go.
Going back to school is a risk, no doubt about it, but it can be a calculated one.
Regards
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