Unconventional Exits from Finance (IB/PE/HF/etc.)
From anecdotal knowledge, what has been some really unconventional exits from finance (at any point in one's career)? I have a friend who knows a guy who spent 2 years IB analyst and then quit to work at a pawn shop-i feel he just went "fk it" after failing to jump to PE shop...
What's the exit strategy? (Originally Posted: 05/22/2011)
I'm not talking about the normal exit ops we always hear so much about…I don’t want to work in PE or HF. I used to think I wanted to pursue those paths, but after working as an analyst for awhile, I can't stand it…I don’t even want to work in finance anymore. Anyone else in this position? Whats your exit strategy? Will you just continue to tough it out in finance even though you hate it? I know that no one actually "likes" working as an analyst, so please save me those responses. I've just gotten to the point where I don't think I can do it anymore. I'm interested in entrepreneurship, so that’s where I'm focusing my attention now, but that's definitely less of a sure thing than staying in finance. Thanks guys, would love to hear your thoughts.
I'd say if you're interested in entrepreneurship, you should definitely go for it. If it doesn't work out, well, great story for business school admissions and you can do whatever you want after MBA.
My question is whether you hate working as an analyst (i.e. bottom of the totem pole) or if you hate finance in general. I can see everyone hating to work as an analyst. But then again I can see everyone hating to work at the bottom at any organization.
You should try and look for start ups in the area, maybe even VC. That could give you some insight on entrepreneurship.
Regardless of whether you hate being an analyst or hate working in finance, you need to start saving money. Cash gives you options; exit strategies are a lot more smooth and graceful with several months of living expenses in the bank and enough money laying around to pay for an MBA or grad school.
venture capital?
Do you have savings, as Illiniprogrammer said? I save between 20-40 % of my income every year, but still, if I wanted to set up a business, I'd have to go home. Living expenses just rack up too much in addition to start-up costs. That said, you've "lived the dream" (according to your screen name) so now it's about doing what YOU want rather than what everyone else wants you to do.
Thanks for the input guys, really appreciate it. I do have a pretty good amount of savings...I live pretty frugally and could probably live for about a year on savings alone.
electriclighto - Finance in general does still interest me, but my experience since starting has really turned me off to the industry. Maybe I will look at start ups/VC to get some experience before trying to go out on my own.
IP - I totally agree with you. Having savings is key.
jtbbdxbnycmad - good call about my screen name....maybe I should change it to peter gibbons or something haha.
Really appreciate any other insight.
Any exit ops other than the obvious? (Originally Posted: 07/31/2007)
Other than PE, HF, VC, F500 Corp Fin/Corp Dev what exit options are there for ibankers at any level? It does not have to be easy, but I'm looking for anything like "I heard so-and-so got into XXX after being at a BB for Y years".
Treasury Secretary
New Jersey Governor
Author and husband of former MTV VJ
borat
ODB
Consulting - But you have to have serious interpersonal skills as well.
Banker quits to start a cleaning business (Originally Posted: 11/11/2015)
i stumbled upon this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3313178/Junior-investment-banke…
did this UBS banker found a profitable niche or is it something that can't be explained?
Maybe he enjoys cleaning or maybe he wanted to be his own boss. Does it really matter if he's in for the money or not? If there were a sudden dearth of cleaning services would you take advantage of that and start your own cleaning "start-up"? Good for him. What I want to really know is why is it on the daily mail?
Didn't know a desk assistant for UBS wealth management is now considered an investment banker
This.
Also article states he makes annual revenue of $215k i.e. before overheads, staff wages and costs. He's probably breaking even at best.
Exit Opp: Franchising (Originally Posted: 02/03/2011)
Has anyone left banking to open a franchise? I am thinking fast food, but any other franchises could be interesting. My family franchises Sonic (I'm from the south) and I am considering opening something similar down south or bringing Sonic to a place like Chicago, Boston, San Fran, etc.
If anyone has done this or knows someone that has done this, any feedback would be great. If not, what do you monkeys think about this option? Good way to invest your bonus/work for yourself or a waste of time and money?
Definitely don’t do anything in Chicago (taxes are absolutely ridiculous). What about bringing a solid franchise from up north down south?
Al's #1 italian beef would be solid, open late for after the bars and not that expensive to get running (not sure if they franchise though).
I know several folks that have left finance to become franchisees. One banking associate and one PE associate. It's not super common, but it does happen. Especially if you've worked on a deal with the franchisor (either on the buy or sell side) and understand the business model and expansion plans. If you're a shrewd business man, you can make a lot of money as a franchisee - the money really starts to roll in once you have a couple locations and can hire managers to run them. There are a whole lot of millionaires you've never heard of that own 20 McD's franchises - it can be a really nice life.
McDonalds is so expensive though to get up the franchising rights, slap it in a poor neighborhood with a solid manager and you're golden.
Tread very lightly with franchises. They are most definitely not for everyone. What makes them tricky is that they fall into one of the few business models where your level of hard work and dedication cannot always overcome adversity. When dealing with a franchise you are dealing with two powerful factors, one psychological, one physical.
1) Psychological Factor-people discriminate on the basis of brand name. Your franchisor will not tell you that (for example) people in Missouri don't trust Jiffy Lube, even if they are well aware of it.
2) Physical Factor-we can even call it legal/logistical, some franchises literally keep you locked into place when it comes to anything from your menu, to location dimensions, to something as ridiculous as minimum number of employees on duty excluding you.
In other words, do your homework and don't believe anyone who tells you that it's a smooth sail. Also, have plenty of reserves on hand. Here's a basic read to get you started .
I would suggest hitting up the SBA for detailed reports on which ever brand you had in mind.
You won't be able to buy one. Most blue-label franchisers require $5mm net worth, ~$1mm liquid just to APPLY for a franchise.
Even with high Chi-town taxes, if you started a Chic-fil-A or Culvers (they are all in the burbs) in the Loop you would make a fucking killing. They advertise for Culvers all over the place (especially at Cubs games) and then you want to eat the food and they are all in the burbs.
I know a guy (on this site in fact) that came up with the idea of starting a church's that would also cash checks from social programs. THAT my friend is a great idea.
If you do a Which Wich or Lenny's, can we have free subs?
I have always wondered if bringing a decent Chi-Town style pizza franchise (not that Uno pizza bullsh*t) like Lou Malnati's down South or out West would be a good idea. Coming from Chicago, I would kill from some good deep dish down here in Richmond, but I wonder if there would be a market for it or if you have to grow up eating it to love it. I definitely agree with chitownanalyst though, Culver's or Chick-Fil-A would make a killing in Lincoln Park/ Wrigley area.
It would be a blast to own a few Ruth's Chris'.
CAPM, I could definitely go in on this with you...how about taking Whataburger up north? Nothing like some late night Honey Butter Chircken Biscuits...
I would have killed for one of those on Friday night at about 4 a.m.... had to settle for pizza rolls from 7/11..
In n out burger.....take it to the east coast or deep south
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