UT dallas or Hofstra?

I'm an international student.
I want to get my master degree from those two schools.

UT DALLAS- Finance major
Hofstra- quantitative finance

Hofstra is very close to NYC, and the trading room is fantastic. But the rank of its b-school is not good-105th. By the way, if I go to this school, maybe I will try to transfer to better school, such as Fordham, Baruch, etc.

UTD: Good rank of B-school (40th)- even higher than Rochester. And the school does its best to become the Tier1 University in the next 10 years. Good faculty. But Dallas is not a good city for finance. It's not easy for a people to find a job in Finance.

Please give some advices. It will be appreciated.

 
notaspammer:
Those schools aren't ranked that highly, and you still have time to take the GMAT again before the app deadlines. Why not look into doing that?
Thank you for your advice. But I must choose one from those. Maybe I will transfer to another school in the furture.
 

Hofstra is waaaay too expensive for what it offers. They're basically just there to collect your check.

I live on Long Island, and commute to Baruch. Hofstra's campus is nice, but it's pretty much located in a ghetto town - Uniondale/Hempstead. You won't be going to the city as often as you think.

As someone who started out at Nassau, which is right next door, I can tell you first hand that the "red" is a very real threat. But that's why there is Nassau.

Bottom line, though: it's really not worth the money, and I don't understand how they get away with it.

If I disagree with you, it's because you're wrong.
 
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cold pizza 2:
Hofstra is waaaay too expensive for what it offers. They're basically just there to collect your check.

I live on Long Island, and commute to Baruch. Hofstra's campus is nice, but it's pretty much located in a ghetto town - Uniondale/Hempstead. You won't be going to the city as often as you think.

As someone who started out at Nassau, which is right next door, I can tell you first hand that the "red" is a very real threat. But that's why there is Nassau.

Bottom line, though: it's really not worth the money, and I don't understand how they get away with it.

Thank you very much. Except "Red threat", How about academic in Hofstra? I know Hofstra has many Bloomberg terminals. I know, baruch is very good. But, basing on my background(GPA,IBT AND GRE). It is not easy for me to enter. That's why I think I should transfer to other school after I come.(Someone tells me it will be easier if I could have a talk to director of admission) By the way, do you know something about UTD?
 

Well, I don't know your stats.

http://zicklin.baruch.cuny.edu/programs/undergrad/degrees/accountancy/5…

and this link is for MS in Accountancy. But I think it's good for comparing. if it makes you feel any better, I was originally not accepted into Baruch - but I ended up writing a letter to appeal the decision. I think that they just need it for the record that they follow their high standards, and then they let you in with a letter in order to collect more cash. So, I think you should definitely apply.

Academics in Hofstra? Well, I don't know. Never studied there. But I do know for a fact that the student body there is three quarters retarded. Not gonna lie, Baruch is FILLED with idiots (I'm talking more common sense, than book smarts,) but it's a different breed.

I think that outside of New York, or even just Long Island, you will have trouble finding a job. This will be true for Baruch as well, but at least you didn't pay ten times as much for the "privilege."

I don't know anything about UTD, but I do know that Hofstra is a waste of money.

If I disagree with you, it's because you're wrong.
 
cold pizza 2:
Well, I don't know your stats.

http://zicklin.baruch.cuny.edu/programs/undergrad/degrees/accountancy/5…

and this link is for MS in Accountancy. But I think it's good for comparing. if it makes you feel any better, I was originally not accepted into Baruch - but I ended up writing a letter to appeal the decision. I think that they just need it for the record that they follow their high standards, and then they let you in with a letter in order to collect more cash. So, I think you should definitely apply.

Academics in Hofstra? Well, I don't know. Never studied there. But I do know for a fact that the student body there is three quarters retarded. Not gonna lie, Baruch is FILLED with idiots (I'm talking more common sense, than book smarts,) but it's a different breed.

I think that outside of New York, or even just Long Island, you will have trouble finding a job. This will be true for Baruch as well, but at least you didn't pay ten times as much for the "privilege."

I don't know anything about UTD, but I do know that Hofstra is a waste of money.

Thank you for your advice. Honestly speaking, a little disappointment about Hofstra after got your comment. Because somebody(The student in Hofstra) told me that the school is better than Pace and St john. It means Hofstra is average in NY. On the other hand, I know your meaning on expense. But as an international student. The tuition of Hofstra is cheaper(3.3W) than Fordham( 6W). So, could you offer more information? I want to get more truely information about this school. Since it is very close to NYC. Thank you very much indeed.!
 

Hoftstra > Harvard > Yale > Stanford > Princeton > LSE

You're born, you take shit. You get out in the world, you take more shit. You climb a little higher, you take less shit. Till one day you're up in the rarefied atmosphere and you've forgotten what shit even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son.
 

I am almost certain you won't be able to transfer from different masters programs to another. Well, without losing all credits that is. I'd hold off personally. Why a masters and not MBA?

Bottom line, you need to give you stats for anyone to help you.

 
txjustin:
I am almost certain you won't be able to transfer from different masters programs to another. Well, without losing all credits that is. I'd hold off personally. Why a masters and not MBA?

Bottom line, you need to give you stats for anyone to help you.

thank you for your advice brother. I have not taken SAT. As an international student, I just need to offer my undergraduate GPA, IBT and GRE score to get admission. My GPA: 2.4/4.0 (74/100). IBT 83(R:24 S22 W 19 S 18). GRE 1240(V460 MATH 780). AW 3.5
 

I think your best bet is certainly UT Dallas. For one, the business school ranking is much higher. While I completely know that Dallas is not exactly a hub for finance, there are a number of investment banks that are in town: Houlihan Lokey, JPM, Stephens, McColl Partners, Cantor Fitzgerald, RBC (their securitization group)...also some smaller boutiques like Southwest Securities, Commerce Street Capital, MHT Partners.

That being said, Dallas is an extremely great city but if you are looking to get into IB...all of the BB and big MM firms are in Houston (oil and gas groups). There are tons of shops over there that recruit at SMU, UT, Rice, etc. While i'm not sure what the OCR is like at UT Dallas, you would be in a really great region and certainly just being in Texas would be helpful. While the oil and gas guys do recruit from the ivys and other targets, you have a lot better chance and will most likely be going up against people on the same level of playing field.

On the chance you aren't looking for IB, theres a TON of commercial real estate shops here.

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Pike:
I think your best bet is certainly UT Dallas. For one, the business school ranking is much higher. While I completely know that Dallas is not exactly a hub for finance, there are a number of investment banks that are in town: Houlihan Lokey, JPM, Stephens, McColl Partners, Cantor Fitzgerald, RBC (their securitization group)...also some smaller boutiques like Southwest Securities, Commerce Street Capital, MHT Partners.

That being said, Dallas is an extremely great city but if you are looking to get into IB...all of the BB and big MM firms are in Houston (oil and gas groups). There are tons of shops over there that recruit at SMU, UT, Rice, etc. While i'm not sure what the OCR is like at UT Dallas, you would be in a really great region and certainly just being in Texas would be helpful. While the oil and gas guys do recruit from the ivys and other targets, you have a lot better chance and will most likely be going up against people on the same level of playing field.

On the chance you aren't looking for IB, theres a TON of commercial real estate shops here.

Yeah, as you know. Dallas is not a finance city,. That the most important thing that I'm worry about. I want to find a financial job after I get my master degree.
 

I don't exactly hold Pace or St. Johns in high regard either. And believe me, Baruch is not that much better - it's just cheaper.

I think Pace might be a better bet if only because it is actually IN the city - but I'm pretty sure it's as expensive as Hofstra. Anyway, the main point is, it's pretty much a bad decision to go for a PRIVATE NON-TARGET. It's actually probably the worst decision you can make.

If you can get accepted into Frodham, definitely do it - that's just my opinion.

I just don't really have much good to say about Hofstra, sorry. It's basically a place setup for squeezing dollars out of dumb middle class kids. A place that's even worse - Adelphi. And it's right next door...

If I disagree with you, it's because you're wrong.
 
cold pizza 2:
I don't exactly hold Pace or St. Johns in high regard either. And believe me, Baruch is not that much better - it's just cheaper.

I think Pace might be a better bet if only because it is actually IN the city - but I'm pretty sure it's as expensive as Hofstra. Anyway, the main point is, it's pretty much a bad decision to go for a PRIVATE NON-TARGET. It's actually probably the worst decision you can make.

If you can get accepted into Frodham, definitely do it - that's just my opinion.

I just don't really have much good to say about Hofstra, sorry. It's basically a place setup for squeezing dollars out of dumb middle class kids. A place that's even worse - Adelphi. And it's right next door...

Thank you very much! I will consider your advice seriously.
 

I grew up on Long Island. Hofstra doesn't have a strong presence on wall street. Transferring in a masters program is unheard of. It's extremely expensive, and not very strong. Sounds like a bad idea.

 

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