What is Life? - Da fuck?

I've been wondering the past few days about the direction of my mind/heart/soul....not to get into any of that emotional bullshit but it's been crazy just growing up and now being 20 years old working a fulltime internship with full time school.

With no doubt, I know I'm in a much better position than most of my friends in terms of education/work experience/ even financial means but what the hell is the point of my life?

I would argue that most of the people on this forum are proactive individuals, attempting to get advice, advance there careers and make some $$. But than what?

To be totally truthfull, I have no idea why the hell I'm writing this post since most of us don't care much about outside life (or atleast that's what I've noticed), I think we live in a bubble... the corp. fin/consulting/IB/douche bag persona kind of bubble. I'm not saying if your in the above field(s) that you're a douche but from I've experienced so far...,

this world is a bitch.

As I aimlessly enter some data onto an excel spreadsheet for work and get fucked by my boss as how he will claim 1 minute I'm doing an incredible job and the next take my into the conference room and tell me how I'm fucking up.

Crazy ass shit man.

What the hell are we all doing? Go to school....get a job....make some money and than die?

What is the point of your life? After you die, will people even remember you?

I'm quickly realizing how big of a bitch 'real life' is, even though I don't have the responsibilities of a 'grown man' with family and an actual job role, I'm feeling the weight of the world on my shoulders and feel like its hard to keep going.

What the fuck, I don't want to wear no gay ass tie everyday and take shit from higher ups... I'd much rather build my own business, wear shorts to work, and be a good person to others... but still dont have the experience to do so (in terms of building a business).

Have any of you ever been in this kind of slump? What the hells going on?

I feel like I just got in the face with brick full of reality. Is life really such a bitch or am I just trippin? Anyone feel the same?

I'm not trying to be sentimental/emotional or any of that shit. I'm simply asking, is this just a phase or this what real life is like...?

Comments (33)

Aug 26, 2013

I'm in the exact same position right now. I've decided that I'm not gonna follow the beaten path. It might be a phase and I might change my mind as I tend to go through various phases. I have a year of school left. Thinking about selling most of my shit after I graduate, trading, and traveling the world. Also considering going in the Navy for 3 years as an officer to save some money so I can trade more capital and live better.

My dream's to be a traveling writer and trader.
Also looking into online businesses to start and general ways to generate income remotely.

RooshV has a userbase with a very similar mindset. Check out the "Lifestyle" section of his forum. It's pretty much dedicated to how to be financially independent without answering to anyone.

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Aug 26, 2013
RustyFork:

My dream's to be a traveling writer and trader.
Also looking into online businesses to start and general ways to generate income remotely.

Fuh...what?

Nobody has that life.

Aug 26, 2013
Edmundo Braverman:
RustyFork:

My dream's to be a traveling writer and trader.
Also looking into online businesses to start and general ways to generate income remotely.

Fuh...what?

Nobody has that life.

I know someone that lives a similar lifestyle, be wary of what you wish for, generating income independently can be a very lonely pursuit.

Aug 26, 2013

I think we're in a phase where we want everything but don't want to compromise on anything. Have to put in your dues, no easy money unless you're the lucky man/woman who wins the lottery.

Hopefully I'll grow up soon, but I don't see it happening in the near future.

Aug 26, 2013

I have gone through a simular thought process. What helped me is the realization that work is not the only thing that defines me.

Go out and spend that hard earned money on something that excites you. In the past weeks, I've gone kayaking, rockwall climbing and camping. Walking into work, I feel refreshed and look forward to the activities I have planned.

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Aug 26, 2013

@RustyFork I totally agree bro, I'm a senior as well and until a few months ago I had a dream of selling my shit and moving to south africa and chillin there for a 2 years or so. Its just difficult because of the whole unemployment gap issue, I'm sure you know. I'll for sure be checking out that lifestyle forum tho.

@Scandal, do we really have to compromise our life just for some money tho? I hate the idea of growing up... I just wana be a kid and fuck around all my life.... oooo I wish.

@officerGodzilla Yea man, I'm thinking about getting a Lifetime Fitness membership again (a gym incase you havnt heard of it), it's open 24/7 so it'd be a interesting to go in at 6-7AM, work out/play ball and than hit up work after showering. Did u ever end up "growing up"?

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Aug 26, 2013
GimeThatBanana:

@RustyFork I totally agree bro, I'm a senior as well and until a few months ago I had a dream of selling my shit and moving to south africa and chillin there for a 2 years or so. Its just difficult because of the whole unemployment gap issue, I'm sure you know. I'll for sure be checking out that lifestyle forum tho.

Check out my post last week; you might relate:

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/another-life...

And that forum also has an awesome travel section.
Stay away from the game section. They're all tryhard losers.

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Aug 26, 2013

Hey, I think if you think that is something that de-stresses you and something that you would look forward to, go for it.

What do you mean by "growing up"? I am a couple years out of college and trying to find my own path as well. I realized that nobody realy knows what they are doing. They all have doubts. So keep your head up and keep on chugging.

Aug 26, 2013

Go read an article about children in the South Sudan, take a deep breath or go for a long run and count your lucky fucking stars that we were born in the US with the ability to reach the highest highs while being granted a put option on just how bad it can get for someone living in this country; a place where the homeless are given cell phones.

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Aug 26, 2013
NYU:

Go read an article about children in the South Sudan, take a deep breath or go for a long run and count your lucky fucking stars that we were born in the US with the ability to reach the highest highs while being granted a put option on just how bad it can get for someone living in this country; a place where the homeless are given cell phones.

That has nothing to do with what OP is talking about. Just because you are born in America doesn't mean you have to shoot to be the best at everything/be caught up with consumerism.

With that said, I have been the same way OP, but I think I am looking for a value-add to society. Also I need to work for myself, not for a larger organization. I have seen to many people take the "beaten path", and now hate their lives

Aug 26, 2013
NYU:

Go read an article about children in the South Sudan, take a deep breath or go for a long run and count your lucky fucking stars that we were born in the US with the ability to reach the highest highs while being granted a put option on just how bad it can get for someone living in this country; a place where the homeless are given cell phones.

This.

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Aug 26, 2013

That's a great question to ask. You don't need experience to open a business. My buddy started one in high school and now he makes a bank on his innovative idea. You don't need to work in a corporate world before you start a business. Having some finance pedigree will never hurt but you can try starting a business now. I am actually planning to start one this academic year since I am a senior.

Aug 26, 2013

Yea thats not that bad OP, try being 22 and being a dad while working FT and going to school FT.... Reality my friend. Im not complaining boohoo but its difficult, in the words of Tupac --"Got to keep yo head up, even when the road is hard never give up"

I hope this is better than the last batch of shit you gave me. Produced more wood than Ron Jeremy. I don't want you to yell, "Reco!" anymore. Know what you should yell? "Timber!" Yeah, Mr. Fuckin' wood.

Aug 26, 2013

Everyone's telling OP, 'It could be worse.'

Wanting something good does not imply that you don't appreciate what you already have. But we only get one life and I don't know about you, but I'm gonna try to make the most of it. Even if others never got the chance.

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Aug 26, 2013

I'll save you a trip to the conference room...

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Than-and-Then

Aug 26, 2013

First of all, before you think you've stumbled on some brilliant insight, recognize that virtually EVERY single person who enters the work force from college has these thoughts. There are some who are so robotic as to overlook it, others who just choose to ignore it, and fewer still who actually have the wits to do something about it.

Secondly, you need to stop worrying and start accepting. Accept that centuries from now, you will at best have been reduced to a footnote in a textbook, or although your name might be immortalized, this caricature will be as much fiction as fact (e.g. George Washington). Accept that really there is no inherent purpose in life, and there there is no validation awaiting you at the end.

Some people just bail on the corporate world with an idea that they can be their own man. This is actually the wrong approach, in my view, because you will fail. Those who succeed bail because they think they can be their own business. There is a difference, i.e. you don't just quit because you refuse to take orders from superiors, you quit because you think you can do it better on your own and you have a plan and an idea to achieve that. Surely you see how foolish it would be to quit a safe job to start a business and then realize that you have no competitive advantage, no passion for the work itself, and that the whole scheme was merely a ploy to have control of your life. Then you will have no clue what to do and you will regret it all the same.

I was inspired by a quote by Stephen Hawking, who said something to the effect of: "Never give up work. Work gives you meaning and purpose and life is empty without it."

Which is why I am absolutely dumbfounded at people who would just like to make enough money to walk away and do nothing. Your life would be largely empty without work. This was the moral of the story from Office Space. Peter Gibbons could do nothing, but he chooses to work in construction at the end. And he's happy, and satisfied.

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Aug 26, 2013

What are you talking about? Peter Gibbons couldn't just "do nothing" at the end of that movie. He quit his job with nothing lined up and didn't have any cash saved because he "gave it back" and Milton ended up with it. The moral of that movie is actually not what you said at all.

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Aug 26, 2013
rufiolove:

What are you talking about? Peter Gibbons couldn't just "do nothing" at the end of that movie. He quit his job with nothing lined up and didn't have any cash saved because he "gave it back" and Milton ended up with it. The moral of that movie is actually not what you said at all.

Round of applause. It's like the other guy didn't even watch the movie and read some sort of Onion parody of it.

Aug 26, 2013
Take_It_To_The_Bank:

This was the moral of the story from Office Space. Peter Gibbons could do nothing, but he chooses to work in construction at the end. And he's happy, and satisfied.

The reason why he was happy doing construction work was, in part, because he was building stuff instead of toiling away doing mindless and worthless and monotonous TPS reports and sitting through endless meetings with no end in sight.

Aug 26, 2013
TheKing:
Take_It_To_The_Bank:

This was the moral of the story from Office Space. Peter Gibbons could do nothing, but he chooses to work in construction at the end. And he's happy, and satisfied.

The reason why he was happy doing construction work was, in part, because he was building stuff instead of toiling away doing mindless and worthless and monotonous TPS reports and sitting through endless meetings with no end in sight.

This is even stupider than the interpretation I posted. You know there's a deleted scene where the foreman of the construction site is a new Lumbergh? He hasn't changed jack shit, and he wasn't even building stuff, he was hauling off garbage and debris.

Arguing about the movie is a waste of time anyway, as my point still stands, that it is retarded to want to do nothing.

Aug 26, 2013

@Take_It_To_The_Bank

Please put a Spoiler Alert, come on man...

Aug 26, 2013

What's the point?

Look, you're sitting at a computer punching in numbers to excel because, although it might not seem like it, it makes a difference. You're helping build a better world. It sounds cliche, but think about it. If people hadn't taken an interest in industry, we wouldn't have the option to travel around and write while other people toiled away at desk jobs.

10,000 years ago, people decided gradually to move from hunting and gathering over a large amount of land to settling and cultivating smaller areas. You know those fruits and vegetables you like so well? Those didn't exist back then -- not in any recognizable way, at least. Over this vast time period, farmers bred the best roots and fruits with each other, selecting the sizes, flavors and colors they liked best. We love nature because we helped create it.

There's a philosophical beauty in industry. The world will be different at the end of your career than it was at the beginning, in part because of your individual actions. We live in a very specialized economy, so your work might be a bit less meaningful today than the farmer's was in 6,000 BC (or the hunters' and gatherers' work was before him), but that shouldn't detach meaning from your work.

If that doesn't help you, then you can instead look at your options ten years from now, when you've built up a comfortable amount of wealth and security. You can take direct action by starting a company of your own or directing your capital toward non-profits or non-governmental agencies whose work solves problems that bother you.

And yeah, you'll have plenty of time to cook, write, travel and kayak in between.

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Aug 26, 2013

Yes. But his neighbor told him that you don't need money to do nothing.

Aug 26, 2013
Aug 26, 2013
the_stig:

You still haven't changed your signature to a Stig quote, I see.

Some say he...

"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."

Aug 26, 2013

LOL Eddie, I was hoping to respond before you had to explain your first comment

Aug 26, 2013

If you're 20, you need to enjoy life. no need for the socrates type bullshit.

"Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a Champion" - Muhammad Ali

Aug 26, 2013
pacman007:

If you're 20, you need to enjoy life. no need for the socrates type bullshit.

This. Nobody's forcing you to work in finance. If you're complaining this much at 20 years old, I suggest you:
1. go on a few mind altering trips (not in an airplane)
2. go get laid
3. grow a pair

Aug 26, 2013

Some good advice on here.

For those of think I'm complaining, I'm trying to get some facts straight.Trust me or not, I'm very thankful for what I have... but like @rustyfork said, you only life once, so do it right.

I love finance, but moreover, I'm talking in terms of work-life in general. Its not about me being forced to work, everyone gotta make a living somehow, but its more about, is this what life is all about? I'm not trying to just live a boring ass life with 9 to 5s everyday and the only think I look forward to is rolling a blunt when I get home.

My main question: Does this "working/adult/grown-up life" get better? Right now, I'm just finding it hard to get adjusted to this crazy routine of having work responsibilities as well as how did some you adjust to it?

Not trying to complain/make you feel sorry for me/ or any other BS. Simply looking for some advice.

@the_stig, good ass video lol. I was thinking about the exact same thing when I was writing the post.

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Aug 26, 2013

This sounds like you're not happy with your work. You need deliberate a bit and maybe switch it up.

I'm 25 and I can tell you that the next 5 years will only get harder so man the fuck up. And yes, this is what life is about. 95% of people get sucked into this shit and then they die. That's real shit and that's what happens. Hope you understand that...now move on and make shit happen. Smoke your bleezy but make sure you put that shit down every now and again so you can get your shit straight when the need arises. Also, don't do coke and never ever ever smoke a cigarette, shit is too hard to quite.

G'luck

"Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a Champion" - Muhammad Ali

Aug 26, 2013

Here's the thing. Imagine your life like a balance scale, and there are two sides to this scale.

On the one side, you have what you give up. Generally speaking, the amount of money you're paid in the working world is proportional to the scarcity of what you are offering. Corporate or self-employed, either way, it's just supply-demand. Now, that could be some skills or knowledge that most people don't have (and took time, energy, and resources for you to acquire) and are in need, or it could be putting up with a level of shit from bosses or time spent rotting in an office building that most people can't withstand, for example, or it could be a combination of a number of things. So you have that on one scale, your give.

On the other side of the scale, you have what you want from the world. The experiences you wish to have. The people you want to have them with. The physical or material things that facilitate those experiences, or in some instances, are the experiences themselves. So you have this on the other end of the scale, your take.

Your problem, OP, is that your scale doesn't balance. Because you see, as a college student at 20 years of age, you have very little to offer, but an immense amount you want to take. And that's okay. That's expected. Distract yourself in the meantime.

You will be content when your scale balances. Not when either side is high, but when they are equal. Not when you win the lottery, not when you work yourself to the bone, but when an equilibrium is established. You can accomplish this by increasing the amount you give, or decreasing the amount you want/take, or some combination, until a balance is reached.

Do not worry, though. I'm sure your scale will balance one day. It does for everyone in the end.

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Aug 26, 2013
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"Mr. Perkins poses an extreme risk to the market when drunk."