What the Hell is Going on in Britain

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London's walking and cycling commissioner believes that cyclists in the city are too white, male, and middle class. He was considering setting diversity targets for London's cycling population to ensure **progress ** was achieved. I thought this was crazy and searched more for what is going on in Britain.

Tommy Robinson is getting jailed for 13 months on a contempt of court charge for filming outside/reporting on a grooming gang trial and the media was banned from reporting on his case.

A 78-year-old man got arrested for murder after stabbing a burglar to death in his home.

People aren't allowed to carry around anything pointy. The police confiscate pliers, screwdrivers, and scissors. If you aren't 18, you can't buy plastic knives or teaspoons.

Every TV owner must purchase a TV license to fund the BBC, even if you do not watch the BBC. The intimidating advertising is insane.

A hate crime is defined as "Any criminal offence which is perceived by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person's race or perceived race; religion or perceived religion; sexual orientation or perceived sexual orientation; disability or perceived disability and any crime motivated by hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender", so any accusation is a hate crime if I understand the law correctly.

What is going on?

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Comments (45)

Jun 8, 2018

The end of Britain is what you are watching. Unless they follow through with Brexit they are finished like Europe.

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Jun 9, 2018

UK has been damaged more than non-Eu than Eu mate

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Jun 9, 2018

'Unless they follow through with Brexit'

You know by now the debate on whether Brexit is good or bad is over right? It's been accepted that the UK fucked up big time. Now it's just a matter of having the balls to follow through with the fuck up.

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Jun 8, 2018

Britain and to a lesser extent Western Europe are in the late stages of suicide. Dead nations. It saddens me to think of how many Americans died to protect what has no become a detriment to the world.

Good riddance.

Jun 9, 2018

You're either trolling with stupid generalisations or you're an idiot and have no clue what's happening in Britain and the EU. All that wiped away by your so-called 'Paki Gangs'? Come on, if you're going to contribute do it in a decent or marginally meaningful manner, not with idiotic statements a 80-year old bigot would say.

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Jun 8, 2018

Happening in the U.S. too buddy

What concert costs 45 cents? 50 Cent feat. Nickelback.

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Jun 8, 2018

Great video. Think of this whenever liberals speak. Electing Trump gives me hope that Americans will eventually wake up to the enemy in their midst and take back this country. If not, we deserve our fate.

Jun 9, 2018

1984 incarnate. RIP Londonistan. Allahu Akbar.

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Jun 9, 2018

"A Jeremy Corbyn series"

Jun 9, 2018

Britain, with the support of the Labour party (Corbynshit and its love for the IRA, Russia, and all kind of terrorists) is going to be a true Londonistan. Former free-trade country today no one seems to remember Maggie's work, and this is sad.
Conservative party needs new faces, new ideas and to be straight and tough like Maggie was

Listen to the greatest historian:

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Jun 10, 2018

Why does the Left resort to calling any idea they don't like Russian? Historically Russia has been the most left society economically in the past 200 years. Just shows how they're intellectual light weights

RIP LEHMAN
RIP MONACOMONKEY
RIP THEACCOUNTING MAJOR

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Jun 9, 2018

Is a classic radical chic mentality

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Jun 9, 2018

First a reply to the points:

  • The cycling one is ridiculous, I agree
  • Same with the Tommy one
  • IMO, the 78-year old man one is fair. You should defend yourself and unless you know for a fact your life is under threat, murder is considered excessive force. A non-fatal stab wound in the arm or leg to stop the guy before you call the police? Sure. Murder? No. In most cases, burglars just want your TV and if you kill someone for stealing something that is excessive.
  • Not carrying anything point is also ridiculous but unless you need them for your profession, why the fuck would you go for a walk in the park with pliers or scissors? If you're ok with people being banned from carrying these things on planes, you should be fine with people being banned from carrying them around when they aren't needed for a job.
    -I agree the TV licence one is bullshit.
    -The definitions of 'hate crime' are getting blurry and perhaps taken too far, but hate crime or not, crime should be punished.

Three other things to consider here:

  1. Britain isn't going to shit. Headlines like these are not the end of Britain and the influx in immigration certainly isn't the end of Britain.
  2. The EU is not falling apart. There is political tension like in all areas of the world now but the EU is in no danger of collapsing. All this talk about right-wing parties gaining power and then making their country leave the EU is bullshit. It happen only to Britain and it was because they let the stupid and uninformed vote (and the Leave campaign did a better marketing job, but then again marketing to stupid people is easier). As for the the influx of Indians and Pakistanis being seen as a bad thing, have you ever sat down and spoke with some? These are some of the hardest working, politest and most dedicated people around. Do some commit crimes? Of course, but people from all countries do - we all have bag eggs.
  3. Are Americans really involved in this discussion? Really? America has a fucking retarded President, mass shooting problems on a weekly basis, homophobia/xenophobia/racism on an unprecedented scale, mind-numbing ignorance as a population and a denial of globally recognised issues such as climate change like no other country in the world. To add to this, the constant complaint about immigration in the EU is what makes the EU diverse and functional.
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Jun 9, 2018

Personally think that you are way too bullish on EU performance and influence in the world both economically and politically. Whilst i think a sudden implosion is unlikely, the EU does seem to be falling apart in a gradual process like a death by 1000 cuts - people across the political spectrum are increasing worried about the future of the EU. Also, i think that the large amount of diversity within the EU is one of the key factors holding it back and if you wanted to create some sort of superpower to have any chance to rival the US, then especially the languages would have to be homogenised.

All i can say for your comment on the Brexit vote is how dare they let the stupid people with a different opinion to yourself vote!

Jun 9, 2018

Too bullish? The EU's nominal GDP is only marginally behind the USA's ($19.7Tn vs $20.4Tn) and ahead of China's ($14Tn). How is that bullish? Behind the 2nd largest economy doesn't overstate the influence, it outlines fact. And why doesn't the death by 1000 cuts analogy apply to the US with it's growing political, economic and social tensions? If anything, it's worse there by a lot.
As for my Brexit comment, I will defend it by saying that people who have a DIFFERENT opinion rooted in facts are allowed to vote, not people who have NO OPINION and make decisions that have ramifications for millions across the UK and EU on an emotional whim and don't bother to look shit up and inform themselves. What was the most Google question in the UK following the vote? 'What is the EU? Are you fucking serious? You allow people to vote on an issue they have no knowledge about and call that fair or call that a different opinion? And what about the independent polls carried out after when people realised what they had done? The majority would have voted to remain.

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Jun 9, 2018

Despite only marginally behind on nominal GDP, this stat does overstate the influence of the EU because of the fragmentation of European countries within the EU vs the much more consolidated US. The structure of the US with higher quality institutions and labour which is more flexible means that the US is in a much better position to organise it's resources to maximise it's political and economic potential than the EU which is reflected in much higher GDP per capita.

The google question if anything highlights one of the key downfalls of the EUs strategy atm which is the lack of communication involved within the whole project. The concept of the EU being a single market i think is a great one but the fragmented nature of the different European countries nullifies the advantages such as having free movement of labour because the different languages effectively prevents people from moving between countries and unless they address these differences, i don't think the future will be that rosey for the EU.

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Jun 9, 2018

I think if you're looking at global influence, the total GDP gives a better measure of economic influence rather than GDP per capita because with that logic Liechtenstein and Qatar would have the most influence. Secondly, the EU is as fragmented economically as the USA is. We have poorer nations like Greece and the USA has states like Vermont, Wyoming and Montana. The EU has countries than contribute more just the USA does but the same applies to the poorer territories.

The EU's communication could be better, but indiviual national communications are the main reason. France has always been a strong proponent of the EU but Marine Le Pen came close to winning because she shouted louder, not because she shouted better facts or improved ideas. The language thing really isn't as big of an issue as you might think - a lot of people speak English and less skilled labourers that go to different countries learn the local language rapidly to get even low paying job. Do you know how many African migrants and Eastern Europeans that arrive in costal states learn the locale language to a decent level within 2-3 months? Many. So this isn't as big of an issue as you think.

This also applied to the distribution of resources. In the USA, a lot of the 'fair distribution' end up in richer states than need it less, hence why the USA is one of the countries with the highest inequality of wages and wealth distribution in the world. The EU funds widespread research programs, scholarships, bursaries and educational initiatives. If you take a look at OECD statistics for innovation around the world with regards to services, education and manufacturing EU countries consistently occupy at least 5 spots in the top 10 (across 23 categories) with the US almost never breaking top 10.

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Jun 9, 2018

Can't compare Liechtenstein and Qatar because their GDP is absolutely no where near the US and the US nominal GDP is still higher despite having half of the population of the EU. Ideally, you would want some kind of combination of the two.

"We have poorer nations like Greece and the USA has states like Vermont, Wyoming and Montana. The EU has countries than contribute more just the USA does but the same applies to the poorer territories."

When i talk about European being more fragmented i am referring to the cultural differences rather than inequality between the nations.

The language difference is a big issue. It's much harder for companies to manage across multiple countries all with different languages and cultures than just one. Also, there is no economic need for such high immigration rates from outside the EU because there are already huge sways of unemployed people already in the EU from places such as Spain/Italy that struggle to migrate across to other EU countries because of the language differences.

Jun 9, 2018

But managing across different nations would also apply to US companies that have offices in countries around the world? And the 'no economic need for such high immigration rates' also applies to the US. There are plenty of unemployed Americans yet immigrants keep arriving in large numbers.

Jun 9, 2018

US: 3.9% unemployment - labour pretty flexible -> little economic need for outside migration
EU: 7.1% unemployment - labour not as flexible -> no economic need for outside mass migration

US: market size: 325m - pretty much all in english
EU: Largest country Germany: 82m before they encounter different languages

Jun 9, 2018

About 50% of the EU's 740Mn people speak English giving you a market larger than the US. Don't look at the EU as a bunch of different markets, in many cases it should be treated as one.

Jun 9, 2018

Yes, I agree that EU countries are divided culturally but I think EU countries are less divided over important cultural issues than US states on things like guns and violence, LGBT rights, abortion, income equality and racism. These are huge talking points in the US which are the absolute bottom ring in the EU because although we have cultural differences we agree on these basic human things. US states are still divided and still fiercely debate these as if they were important. That's why I think the US is more divided than you think.

Jun 9, 2018

Travelling to the US a few times, I honestly think Americans (men and women) are allergic to logic, reason or objectivity.

The average American must get off the high horse they think they sit on and realise their nation is fucked up on so many levels rather than thinking it's this incredible place with 0 issues and should be an example to the world. And you think immigration is happening only in the EU/UK? In 2016, 13.5% of the US population was composed of immigrants and I would argue that this diversity is what enables the US to work.

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Jun 9, 2018

The UK isn't my country - I immigrated there from Italy. I respect it and I respect my country. You seem to be really fascinated about rape, so lets talk rape. The CDC states that in the US close to 20% of women have been raped in their life at least once. In 2015, the USA was the country with the highest rape crime statistics (with the UK 5th) and in 2017 they were 3rd (with the UK 4th). I'm not defend rape, but you're telling me the acts of a few enables you to generalise? In Italy you occasionally hear about the Eastern European or African migrant raping too but that doesn't mean all of them are like that. A rapist should be identified as such regardless of gender, colour or nationality. Having a problem with Indian and Pakistani immigration in the UK because some of of them raped is what bigots do.

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Jun 9, 2018

First, the 20% number is a fallacy and you should look up their extremely and laughably wide definition of rape (actually termed sexual assault). Shocked, shocked I tell you, that you don't know this.

Next, I wonder what would happen if you broke those rape stats down by race, in the US and U.K. ? That's a rhetorical question, considering it's been done and the numbers are not pretty for the "diversity is our strength" cohort.

Last, your country's Paki gang rapes were committed against pre-teen and tween girls, but hey, nothing to see here!

Also, lol @ using the word "bigot" again. Such terms are so overused by your side that they have zero meaning anymore. It's interesting that you seem to think only first world, western nations should be the only ones to experience the virtues of unchecked diversity. Can't wait for you to start clamoring for more diversity in places like Japan, China, Mexico, the Middle East, etc.

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Jun 9, 2018

No, 20% isn't a fallacy. The CDC says that about 44% of women have experienced some form of sexual assault and the 20% is for actual rape, not petty assault like groping. That's the issue. Out of that 20%, 40% were raped before the age of 18 and (here's the kicker), 34% of that 40% happens to those under 12. Youth rape is a big issue in the USA too, you really can't take the moral high ground here. So, from these statistics would it be fair for me to assume all Americans are rapists. No. Clearly not. That's what you need to understand.

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Jun 9, 2018

Good luck with this guy. In another thread, I criticized his Piketty book recommendation by pointing out data manipulation and conceptual flaws. He effectively responded with "Eugene Fama is wrong too!!"

That's the level of knee-jerky daft liberalism you're dealing with here.

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Jun 9, 2018

If you want to be a big boy, tackle the problem being discussed here rather than trying to bring up shit from elsewhere.

Jun 9, 2018

I've already "tackled the problem" discussed here with my initial post. I cited a very famous book that deals with the matter in great detail.

My response isn't about the topic. It's about you.

You're not a serious person and you've already ruined your credibility here. In response to the arguments made thus far, you literally said that Americans are too stupid and too racist to talk about what's going on the world. And then, unprompted, you cite global warming. You then proceed to double down on your bigotry by saying that "Americans are allergic to logic, reason objectivity."

You're basically a caricature of everything that's wrong with the new left. I just wanted you to know that and to warn the others before trying to engage you with reason.

Have fun with your incoherent, belligerent rants.

G-I the pharma guy:

3. Are Americans really involved in this discussion? Really? America has a fucking retarded President, mass shooting problems on a weekly basis, homophobia/xenophobia/racism on an unprecedented scale, mind-numbing ignorance as a population and a denial of globally recognised issues such as climate change like no other country in the world. To add to this, the constant complaint about immigration in the EU is what makes the EU diverse and functional.

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Jun 8, 2018

UK is a joke. Banning knifes. Zero freedom of speech. The mayor of the city of London excusing terrorism.

Nigel needs to be the PM.

Jun 10, 2018

And next they'll ban any religion aside from Islam. Because anyone that offends Islam is naturally a bigot right?

Jun 10, 2018
Bumblebtuna_analyst:

And next they'll ban any religion aside from Islam. Because anyone that offends Islam is naturally a bigot right?

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Jun 9, 2018

I believe Hayek laid it out in "the Road to Serfdom."

Jun 9, 2018

Interested in this, can you please explain?

Jun 9, 2018

Well, I'll let Hayek speak for himself, and I really do recommend reading the book (it's quite short), but I can summarize.

The Road to Serfdom is a Hayek's warning (made in the 40s) to western liberal democracies, particularly in relation to the UK. Specifically, through a combination of (a) overly zealous notions of social justice and (b) overconfidence in the efficacy of planning, these democracies would devolve into a sort of democratic totalitarianism. In other words, it would lead to fascism.

The left denies that democracy can yield adverse social consequences, but that's where we differ (and it also denies torrential empirical evidence that says the contrary).

Note: read the actual book. Do not rely on other sources, particularly the 5 min summary available on youtube.

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Jun 9, 2018

This is gold, I just ordered the book. Will be the second I have of Hayek.. what a man! Thanks for sharing, the view you underlined is pretty Common of radical chic

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Jun 9, 2018

The book is immensely readable/quotable. You'll enjoy it.

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Jun 9, 2018

No doubts about that. I was advised to read it after my read of Tocqueville.
Anyway, given we're here advising interesting reads about the OP topic, i would suggest to read this book: a major deception on global warming (F. Seitz)

Jun 9, 2018

Wild times. Nature always restores balance eventually. Maybe a small asteroid would do.

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Jun 10, 2018

The solution is called JACOB REES-MOOG. Is time for a tories revolution, labours have to be put out! #MOGGMENTUM

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Jun 10, 2018

Too bad his party probably won't back him. The tories are cowards

RIP LEHMAN
RIP MONACOMONKEY
RIP THEACCOUNTING MAJOR

Jun 9, 2018

I think he has decent odds

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