When and How should I setup an exit opp?
I am a second year analyst at a top tier firm that all the hardos on this site drool over and quite frankly...I think I am underpaid. How should I go about setting up a job hop? Please go into all the nitty gritty details of considering to move to a new city / part of town, to negotiating signing bonuses and what kind of salary is realistic vs what isn't. How do you quit your job at your current employer without burning the bridge? WHEN should an analyst look into job hopping? Should I try to ask my current HR to match another firm's offer pay? Should I job hop AFTER bonus season or before? What do you do when you have an apartment lease in your old city but job hop to a new one for immediate start? Situations and scenarios like this would help me understand. For obvious reasons, I can't really ask any of my work friends lolz. Thanks.
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You’re an IB analyst at a top shop and don’t know how to exit...interesting. Ask your analyst friends in your class.
I don't trust any of them to keep a secret like that. Sadly.
So much of this depends on your interests that's why it's so hard to give advice. Just figure out what you're interested in and go for it pretty simple
You really didn't have to go into such depth in your post and analysis of the topic at hand. I really appreciate it though, this wealth of knowledge and insight might just make me the next Warren Buffet. I never would have thought about it from this inspiring angle before. I know this post must've taken you a long time to think up and put together, and I know you must be working on so many big deals right now on top of that, so again thank you for this effort filled response. Have a great day, Champ! Don't work too hard.
You must be a real blast to work with...
But seriously how are we suppose to give you detailed advice with no information. What city you interested in? Do you want to move closer to family? Move to somewhere warm witch a beach? Move closer to friends in another city? I'm assuming no more banking so what PE? CorpDev? VC? Startup? Tech? Literally everything depends on what YOU ARE interested in. We can't tell you that. So how bout you act like an adult for a second and maybe put some thought into your career/personal life and where you want to go. But sounds like you're the type that knows it all so you don't need my help anyways. Good luck bud
I can't help with a few of your questions but I have a brother going through a very similar situation and can try to answer the ones I have seen him going through.
1. I can't help with the salary part but if people drool over your bank on here I assume that's because it pays well so it sounds like you will make in the ballpark of what you're making now if you move. I'm not sure if HR can bump your base pay alone as an analyst but maybe you can speak to someone above you about a larger bonus to keep you in the firm. I'm sure you can spin that in a way that isn't douchey. I would probably wait until after bonus season to leave. If they ask for it back oh well but if you leave before you will never know if you could have kept that money.
2. If you give your boss enough time I don't think it will burn a bridge. Moving on to a new job isn't a crime as long as you tell them you are doing it and give them some time to replace you. My brother gave over a months notice and they understood. Obviously not super happy but no enemies made.
3. I think an analyst 2 or 3 you can probably join a bank whenever. Can't see it mattering whether you join with a new class or not. Once again, I'm not sure about this but that is what makes sense to me. Since you're asking to do this now I can assume you aren't trying to wait a full year until next hiring season so you might as well go for it and see what happens.
4. For the apartment I can actually help a little with personal experience. I was supposed to be moving to SF for my analyst role but am still home due to COVID and want to save some money. Some of my friends I am going to live with are already out there so they are having someone sublet my room until I move. I think this is an ideal situation. If you live with some friends they can probably do the same. Times are tough for landlords right now so they might even be able to take your name off of the lease and put whoever is moving into it on. If you cant get someone to move in you might just have to eat the rent but you should be able to find a way around this. Landlords are desperate right now so you should be able to work something out that saves you some money.
Hope this was helpful in any way.
Thank you for this. Congrats on San Fran! I really appreciate your insights and wish you and your brother the best of luck.
Haven’t really thought about realizing exit opps in my role (happy where I am) but the biggest piece of advice is to tackle all beasts and reach out to analysts in previous classes that moved elsewhere. Reach out to friends and schedule chats with them.
I don’t think you care about lifestyle (more than money at least) so focus on investing opportunities where you’re able to ‘put ur money where your mouth is’ and take risk and generate alpha and use that as a measure of your comp (with appropriate lack of ceiling so to speak)
But keep an open mind to non name brands , you could make a lot with coin vest or carry structure at more unknown firms. So much is outside ur control, but as far as comp goes this is the only way to really ‘break the ceiling’ that ‘typical’ banks/PE have where comp is structured. It’s to take on risk with higher upside potential / ceiling.
But why are u underpaid? What talent is being undervalued? Maybe that is a talent that’s marginal for banking and not valued there (insight into company dynamics and thinking critically about data, etc) while it would be on the investing side. Maybe you’re great at selling, well ur role as a junior isn’t gonna value that u have to wait 10 years.
"Top tier Firm" "Analysts here would DROOL OVER" *has other posts saying job pays 70k a year and is actively looking to jump ship*
I am dying laughing at your delusion lmao
You’re hating on me for making $70K as a young guy in my 20’s working for a debt trading desk at a top buy-side firm? Get off anonymous and let me know how you’re doing buddy.You sound like THAT guy who puts he/him to declare your preferred pronouns in his signature block.
Idk dude, i don’t think anyone is drooling over 70k regardless of shop. But hey, at least you acknowledge you’re underpaid. Don’t jump ship unless it’s a legit shop. Grass isn’t always greener. Be meticulous in your decision making.
Nah he’s hating on you for sounding like an entitled prick saying you’re at a job everyone “drools over” for 70k all-in in a shitty city 😂
The fact that you have to keep reminding everyone that you work for a "tOp BuYsiDe ShOp" in every post shows your insecurity about your current position. If it is such an ELITE position, why are you asking for advice on exiting and making as much as my buddies in FLDP programs?
In your other post it says you're making $70k a year in a city you don't want to be in doing fixed income debt writing or something. Idk if you browse this forum much but none of the high school hardos on here are drooling over anything fixed income.
If you’re in the fixed income trading industry...there’s no better place to be where I’m at. What do you do exactly besides shit post on WSO and beat off to OnlyFans? Or....you might be 5’6...I think that could be it.
Yeah no better place to be except anywhere that pays above 70k in an actual city and provides actual exit ops... So like most other finance jobs lol
Anywhere making more than what you are is a better place to be lmao.
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