Okay so after the first time Neil and Buzz went up, there has been like zero more attempts to send a manned mission back? Why is this? Is there just no point doing something thats already done? No point setting up a space station? No valuable materials up there? Is it just financially unfeasible?
Is humans’ next stage colonising Mars, so is that where the focus is being put?
Monkeys, What’s your take on this? Why aren’t we going back up?
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Easy, we never have been to the moon. It was a facade during the deep space d!ck measuring contest.
The rocks recovered from the moon are the same rocks found on Earth.
Yeah lol we only sent men up to beat Russia, but if its a contest, can Russia please start another space war so we get to see some new discoveries.
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Because there's no point in going back to the moon? What are you going to do there.
I guess that's one way looking at it, but like why did we send probes like voyager 1 into deep space? For exploration. So like why don't we not explore the moon if it is so close to us.
What? You're comparing deep space exploration to somewhere we've already been. What are you going to explore on the moon, we've been there already and can see half of it quite easily from here.
Only viable reason I can think of is for a moon basketball game. If you could somehow anchor down two 20ft basketball goals, it would be a very entertaining game imo.
This was really funny.
What about a moon freestyle Motocross competition? Or a moon demolition derby?
The biggest reason in my view is that going to the moon served a very important symbolic and political purpose in the mid-20th century - proving that we were ahead of the Soviet Union, with whom we were engaged in a decades-long struggle for ideological and military dominance. I'd say just because we haven't done the same exact mission doesn't mean it isn't important to look at both the public and private resources being devoted to space, whether it's SpaceX and the like or the "Space Force" (if that actually amounts to something). Seems like important things are happening but just with different focuses.
Yeah Space X is dedicating focus to Mars, which is commendable and hopefully /musk fulfils his target of sending men to the red planet in the next decade. Only time will tell I guess.
Probably no valuable material/anything usefull there. I'm pretty sure it would be financially feasible, but sending a team there when they've probably identified no valuable materials or living conditions there would be pointless.
We haven't gone back to the moon for 2 reasons (1 serious and 1 less so).
The serious one: we've already done it - politics played a large role in sending the West to the moon before Russia and since we did it we don't need to do it again because there isn't an impending space race.
The less serious one: a conspiracy theory is that 'something' or 'someone' told us to never come back. Hilarious but something that conspiracy theorists love.
In reply to m8 and ffffml , there are multiple reasons to go to the moon with the following being the biggest two:
There is less space debris and large launch windows to create a lunar base for deep space exploration and launch missions. The thinner atmosphere is a slight issue and getting all the material needed for a launch base is tough but it could be a midway stop between Mars and Earth for refuelling or longer launches
Fusion. If we manage to optimise fusion as an energy source, we need hydrogen or helium. One of the best isotopes is helium-3 which is scarce on Earth but available by the fuck load on the moon - strengthening the case for a lunar base.
The conspiracy theorist love their game but it definitely does make my imagination go crazy thinking of the "what if's".
The fact that fusion energy could be such a huge saviour to "green energy" in the future must incentivise more moon mining etc...
Then there is the whole thing about asteroid mining, and all of the heavier elements being found in plentiful amounts which could amass billions if not TRILLIONS of dollars back on Earth. Why is this stuff not happening and only being talked about by physicists?
Asteroid mining needs a bit more thought. You need to find the right asteroid, ensure its orbit is stable, ensure it has sufficient mineral and be sure that any constructions on it won't alter path and behaviour in any way. It is also quite challenging to find a semi long-term asteroid that won't be hit by others in our asteroid belt. You then have to figure out (similar to the moon) how to get that stuff back to earth e.t.c. Cool concept but complex for now.
Nuke the moon.
I wonder the same question (and similar thoughts) every day.
I'm convinced we're in an era of technological REGRESSION while being fed distracting "innovations" that merely serve to satiate the lazy. Think Amazon, Uber, Netflix. If these disappeared overnight, life would continue more/less unchanged.
If you took away the airplane, now, that would absolutely distrupt EVERYTHING. And I'm not talking about tourism. MAnufacturing would come to a halt, etc etc.
Concorde is no longer used due to "economic" reasons.
The greatest inventions to man were invented hundreds of years ago.
We've forgone true innovation for capitalistic gains. And that's a shame.
this response was very helpful.
Can you elaborate?
It really is a shame that some of the most amazing inventions are not allowed to be implemented into everyday life which would make life much easier and more efficient for everybody due to "financial" or "economic" reasons, as you pointed out, Concorde.
Well said Monaco.
We went from the Wright brothers to a jet engine in under 45 years and space travel in less than 70. We haven't advanced since really. Sure the 787 has fuel efficient engines but I agree with what your saying.
indeed.
or even think about something as "simple" and "commonplace" as the modern supermarket. you walk into one building, and you can literally find food from EVERY corner of the earth.
exotic fruits from the Amazon, cookies from Germany, guava from South America, etc etc etc etc. thousands of examples. the logistics to get everything to you, FRESH, at nearly every street corner and suburban grocery store in the ENTIRE United States.. truly a feat in my opinion.
for 99.5% of human existence, this was unheard of.
even 100 years ago, if you told someone of the modern supermarket, they would think you're "dreaming".
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my point is, some of the most basic things (that we take for granted) are actually the most innovative. don't take "innovation" at face value. make your own judgements.
Not true. We aren't in a technological regression, we are just in an era where innovation is less impressive because the base technology exists. If you don't have a plane, any shitty plane you invent will seem amazing. Now planes are the norm so when Boeing or Airbus make a more fuel efficient plane with some innovative engineering techniques, the average joe doesn't even notice or care. I guarantee that if a plane can be 6% more fuel efficient than the current gold standard, CEOs of airlines would go nuts because for them it will make a huge cost difference across their entire business. Also, a lot of groundbreaking innovation isn't publicised as much now but if you do the research you'll find things that shock you. CAR-T cancer therapies can cure/treat certain kinds of tumors with 1-2 injections. That is fucking incredible. Like this example, a lot of ground breaking innovation is often too complex for the average joe to understand hence why it isn't publicised much. Lastly, referring back to my previous point, the steepness of an innovation curve to many seems to be slowing down even if it is still progression because we already have things so rather than invent something brand new, we make improvements on existing things.
As for your Concorde point, it did die out for economic reasons. There were also other models being developed at the same time and even now there is new work being done; check out the Boomjet.
Bro have you heard of the internet?
Yeah, I think the OP meant crewed missions is semi-recent history (20 or so years)
>You didn't phrase the fact that our space exploration program is basically non-existent, and NASA (the organization which embodied American exceptionalism) is now primarily focused on weather forecasting and climate change, rather than progressing the human experience to previously unimaginable heights, so I told you to use Google because I'm funny and smart, unlike you who wants a strong country and space exploration, because you are dumb.
-Dickfuld, just now 2018
Surprised there isn't a market for moon tourism. There's got to be a number of super high net worth individuals who would pay $100+mm to step foot on the moon (no idea how much it would actually cost but assume in that ballpark).
Confirmed moon is not made of cheese ages ago.
Would you really return to somewhere if there was no cheese there?
(Barring lactose intolerant folks)
Cause it was fucking wack. No women and drinks were like $20 for a double. Fuck the moon.
We are too busy funding wars for Israel which are against US strategic interests to spend any time thinking about going to the stars.
Now get back to work goyim, Moishe needs the $35,000 that each Israeli family receives from American goyim each year, so that he can buy our politicians in order to raid government programs like NASA, and redirect MIC funds from R&D to purchasing tech from Israeli militarily programs, which are funded by blank checks from the Treasury to Israel, which are funded by American Debt issued by politicians that are owned by AIPAC, which is the most powerful lobby in the US by a degree of magnitude due to the fact that they use the politicians they own to issue more debt in order to buy more politicians, in order to extract more money from the US, in order to buy more politicians, in order to extract more money from the US, in order to buy more politicians, in order to extract more money from the US....
I thought Omega funded it so they could say the Speedmaster was the first watch worn to the moon. The real space race was between them and Rolex so I've heard.
Cannot wait for the first Investment Bank on the moon or Mars.
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