You're boring -- Networking

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Not all of our connections work out. For those trying to break into finance, our earlier steps in networking end up flat out failing and our attempts at forming relationships fall on a flat tone. Dry. Tasteless. Forgotten relationships. And from my own experiences (and from what I've witnessed), the number one reason for poor networking performance is because of personality and ability to present oneself. Being thought of as boring by someone is essentially the end of any start of a relationship, professional or otherwise.

To that end, I'd like to ask the professionals here,

What is it that makes you really enjoy working with someone?
What sort of traits signal that you've met someone you'd work well with, or that you'd really like to stay in contact with?
When people cold-email you, you're out for coffee with those trying to break in, or even at networking events with professionals, what do you look for in a conversation with someone?
What do you leave with in, what you would consider, a good conversation? (Perhaps an odd question) How are you left feeling?

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Jun 12, 2017

Are people really that into podcasts these days...? I remember when I saw that they were having a rising in popularity but I never got into it personally.

Jun 12, 2017

Joe Rogan gets way more downloads than Anthony Bourdain could dream to have viewers of his shit on CNN. Personally, I take in 3 to 12 hours of content a day. I follow 150+ podcasts. I've learned most of what I know about real estate and health shit which are my two sort of wheelhouses primarily through podcasts. I love podcasts.

Think about it like this: It's just content. It's just recorded content. Call it a podcast or call it a broadcast. I say random facts and shit all the time and people are like where'd you learn that. I say a podcast and they immediately look like that discredits the fact. Like bro I'm not listening to Guys We Fucked. I'm listening to fuckinf 8 hours of interviews with investors, multi millionaires, PHDs dudes, doctors, coaches, people doing big shit. So the fact someone recorded it and I didn't hear it from the fucking horse's mouth or read it in a book makes it invalid? Bro I'm running two businesses off the shit I learned keep on not believing

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

Jun 12, 2017
Appley:

Not all of our connections work out. For those trying to break into finance, our earlier steps in networking end up flat out failing and our attempts at forming relationships fall on a flat tone. Dry. Tasteless. Forgotten relationships. And from my own experiences (and from what I've witnessed), the number one reason for poor networking performance is because of personality and ability to present oneself. Being thought of as boring by someone is essentially the end of any start of a relationship, professional or otherwise.

To that end, I'd like to ask the professionals here,

What is it that makes you really enjoy working with someone?
What sort of traits signal that you've met someone you'd work well with, or that you'd really like to stay in contact with?
When people cold-email you, you're out for coffee with those trying to break in, or even at networking events with professionals, what do you look for in a conversation with someone?
What do you leave with in, what you would consider, a good conversation? (Perhaps an odd question) How are you left feeling?

Money can buy you people, everyone has a price.

Jun 12, 2017

man yes and no
that statement isnt totally accurate

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

Jun 12, 2017

You can buy lunch with Warren Buffet for like $2.6mm

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Jun 12, 2017

you changed the title to be less edgy? lol scared to get cut bro?
edit: i saw a knife block that has a built-in sharpener at costco this weekend and it sounds likea good idea but it is not. knife blocks are a stupid waste of space anyway. i have a dope wall magnet strip and you should too. bought a fucking wooden-handled cleaver youd see some fucking 200-year-old chinese lady with one eye and half a leg missing chopping a chicken's head off in the middle of fucking traffic in china with and ive never even used it man but it looks cool and carbon steel is the move

heister:

Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad.

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Jun 12, 2017

No, I noticed there was another troll post lingering near mine and I realized mine could have came off as a troll post as well, lol.

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Jun 12, 2017

This is a really good post and i hope it takes off.

I'll start off by saying you've got to get out of your "finance-driven, dead-personality" mode. This will be hard for some because they will have probably spent a long time sacrificing their personality, in order to boost their chances of getting into the industry.

In order to improve your networking ability, you need to start being normal again. Don't look at the professionals interviewing/talking with you as omnipotent gods. Treat them like you would normal people, with friendliness and respect. They like normal things, just like you.

So when you ask "what sort of traits signal...." or "what makes you enjoy working with....". Ask yourself the same question and figure out what type of person you'd want to work with in that scenario.

And most important of all, remember everyone is different. Not all professionals want someone who likes golf and cars. Not all want someone with x personality traits. That's why the aim is to apply everywhere until you find a place where you can fit.

Absolute truths don't exist... celebrated opinions do.

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Jun 12, 2017

Definitely for me, my nerves get to me during networking haha. It's really awkward for me when I see people going through the usual stack of questions asking bankers or traders about culture, their daily life, etc. Very overplayed and I always figured the people I want to speak to probably have more interesting thoughts floating around. But of course, I get nervous to expand the conversation for fear of coming off unprofessional.

What about you personally though? What in a person really "clicks" for you?

Jun 12, 2017

I feel the same way about the cookie cutter networking questions, but you have to start somewhere or else there'd be no way of naturally shifting the topic in another direction.

You can't just start by asking for a professional's opinion on the average effective tax rate in India. You need to get to know them first.

As for what traits I'd look for in a person, the same generic stuff admissions officers, Interviewers, CEO's etc, say. The aim is not to be some super alpha charismatic top-dog, it is rare to get a job/internship based on solely that. You just have to be someone who knows their stuff but is also a normal approachable human being.

Absolute truths don't exist... celebrated opinions do.

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Jun 12, 2017

Great post! I am also interested

Jun 14, 2017

Know yourself before you try to know someone else. As well, genuinely try to be a happy person. Happiness is infectious and attempt to bring that quality in a genuine manner where possible; irrespective of how shitty your circumstance may be.

Jun 14, 2017
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