Climate Control=Communism?
If there is one bright spot to the financial crisis it is the slowdown of the global hype machine that is Global Warming.
This closeted socialist doctrine has thankfully left the headlines for the time being.
But don't be fooled into thinking it gone for good.
During the current de facto moratorium on the subject, I think it a reasonable idea to reminisce over its lunacy and true intended goals. As your generation moves towards being the decision making body of our country and our world it bares worth examining not just the short run cost benefits of an idea, but the long term impacts, as well.
Militant environmentalism is nothing more than a pseudo socialist power grab and I always enjoy seeing it debunked in public. Carbon tariffs, quotas and taxes are not the topic du jour these days, but it is good to remember that they are constantly lurking around the next corner...waiting to take more dollars of your paycheck and out of your pocket.
Now that my rant for the day is complete, I would like to proudly present to some and reintroduce to others...
The World's Most Highly Regarded and
Respected Speaker on The Subject
The President of the Czech Republic, Mr. Vaclav Klaus.
I wholeheartedly reiterate my suggestion to read his bookand learn in depth.
For those who are interested in a more academic perspective on the subject, however, here is HBS's James Heskettand his widely circulated paper on the market impact angle.






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Someone I know talked to you
Someone I know talked to you about that book once
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Someone I know talked to you about that book once
lol no shout outs if i knew about it beforehand, will gladly trade SB stash for an al gore pinata,however.
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Seriously Midas? Please stop
Seriously Midas? Please stop watching Fox News. It fucks up your brain.
I am a big environmentalist,
I am a big environmentalist, but one thing I always find funny is how much the left supposedly champions the poor, but this environmental stuff directly hurts the poor the most.
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coach.captain
Seriously Midas? Please stop watching Fox News. It fucks up your brain.
In fairness, this was CNN HLN, not Fox News...
coach.captain
Seriously Midas? Please stop watching Fox News. It fucks up your brain.
There are a lot of people much smarter than you that think Global Warming is a scam. Environmental engineers, scientists, etc.
If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
Lol Glenn Beck as a source
Lol Glenn Beck as a source
Well, the majority of the
Well, the majority of the scientists in the world state global warming is real and its effects are real. And it is man made.
I'm not talking about the few conspiracy theorists who believe global warming is a hoax made up by the left and Obama and muslims and gays and unicorns (yeah they're all working together to trick you..GET YOUR GUNS OUT).
And seriously...to have the
And seriously...to have the title "Climate Control = Communism?", that's just pathetic. I know this is a wall street forum so obviously there will be a conservative bias but I mean lets not go mental.
Regardless of all the
Regardless of all the political leanings and everything I think the easiest way to break this down is to look at it logically. The Earth is a systems that has largely been in balance or cyclical or whatever for 4+ billion years. Now humans come along and in the last 2000 years have reshaped the landscape, cut down trees, burned things, created all kinds of waste (nuclear, heavy metal, and otherwise). Just based on this its ridiculous to think the system won't change at all in response to what humans have done. Now to what extent it will change and in what ways is a different beast.
Similar events have happened in the past - about 2.5 billion years ago the Earth had its first large scale "pollution crisis" as the oxygen concentration in the atmosphere went from around 1% to 15%. This led to one of the largest mass extinctions in Earth's history and life had to adapt and react and go from using anaerobic methods of respiration to aerobic. Of course this happened over hundreds of millions of years... So whether our carbon production now will cause a similar global crisis before we all kill each other in a global nuclear war is something I really don't know.
I think you have the wrong
I think you have the wrong site, OP. This is wallstreetoasis.com not teapartynation.com
Midas, I hate to say it but
Midas,
I hate to say it but you've gone off the deep end this time.
Most academics I know accept global warming. And global temperatures this year are at their highest level ever, despite a very short-term average temperature measure being lower in the midst of rising average temperatures over the past 50 years.
I think the real question is whether it is the government's role to stop negative externalities like global warming and air pollution. And if it isn't, where do we stop? If a large oil company spills millions of barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, maybe they should leave it to homeowners to clean up the mess. Maybe when rich people commit fraud, they should be given a pass- because prosecuting them would constitute socialism. Maybe we should make society a place where he who has the most guns wins- to defend the weak and prevent injustice would constitute socialism.
Of course, without the enforcement of contracts, property rights, and the elimination or recompense for negative externalities, we can't really have a capitalist society, either. Instead, what we really have without recompense for negative externalities is a plutocracy. That's just as inefficient, unfair, and anti-capitalist as communism.
So here's the real question:
-If an energy company dumps oil on my beach, should they be required to make me whole?
-If a mine pollutes my groundwater, should they be allowed to walk away?
-If somebody puts my property underwater, am I entitled to recompense from that person?
If you answered those questions the way any capitalist would answer those question, then the answer must be that we need to do something to deal with global warming. Maybe it involves some combination of geoengineering and nuclear- both of which environmentalists will hate- but the fact is that we're dealing with a negative externality here and something has to be done to correct it.
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I think you have the wrong site, OP. This is wallstreetoasis.com not teapartynation.com
+1 lol
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Midas,
I hate to say it but you've gone off the deep end this time.
Most academics I know accept global warming. And global temperatures this year are at their highest level ever, despite a very short-term average temperature measure being lower in the midst of rising average temperatures over the past 50 years.
I think the real question is whether it is the government's role to stop negative externalities like global warming and air pollution. And if it isn't, where do we stop? If a large oil company spills millions of barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico, maybe they should leave it to homeowners to clean up the mess. Maybe when rich people commit fraud, they should be given a pass- because prosecuting them would constitute socialism. Maybe we should make society a place where he who has the most guns wins- to defend the weak and prevent injustice would constitute socialism.
Of course, without the enforcement of contracts, property rights, and the elimination or recompense for negative externalities, we can't really have a capitalist society, either. Instead, what we really have without recompense for negative externalities is a plutocracy. That's just as inefficient, unfair, and anti-capitalist as communism.
So here's the real question:
-If an energy company dumps oil on my beach, should they be required to make me whole?
-If a mine pollutes my groundwater, should they be allowed to walk away?
-If somebody puts my property underwater, am I entitled to recompense from that person?
If you answered those questions the way any capitalist would answer those question, then the answer must be that we need to do something to deal with global warming. Maybe it involves some combination of geoengineering and nuclear- both of which environmentalists will hate- but the fact is that we're dealing with a negative externality here and something has to be done to correct it.
nice post!
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Regardless, I am not worried
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Anthropogenic global warming
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If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses - Henry Ford
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Although I am not sure what
Reality hits you hard, bro...
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A little more color on the
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