what's so great about living in NYC.. I think it sucks
The place is a dump
everything is overpriced, everything is old and dirty. Only certain areas of manhattan are okay but you pay a heavy premium to live anywhere close to that. Commuting each morning using the subway is a hassle. The nightlife is not that special. There's something for everyone but if you can find that niche in another large metropolitan city then it will be much better and cheaper. You really have to love walking to live in nyc. I got so lazy when I used to live in nyc. The place is stressful as fuck to live in for no good reason. The blazing summer heat sucks too.
All the women seem stuck up and pretentious.
You can live in the outer boroughs but the commute is such a hassle.
I don't see what the big fascination with nyc is
you dont date much do you? try Kansas City might suit you better.
Better opportunity as it is a financial hub and better pay ofcourse.
If you have an option then forget about moving to NYC.
did jjc create a new screen name?
This sounds like the quantum guy on a new screen name... lemme guess, you love chicago?
If you want to work in the city but don't want to live there/pay the taxes live in Hoboken or Jersey City.
Hoboken? Somebody's been banished by a Continuum Transfunctioner.
a device whose mystery is only exceeded by its power
haha thanks for the laugh
It's not true that NYC jobs pay more. Look at career reports for top business schools; the median salary for NYC is actually less than other cities. To make matters worse, NYC rent is outrageous, and they have a city tax. When all is said and done, you turn over half of your earnings to the government.
So NYC=lower pay, longer hours, dirty and ugly city, higher taxes, ugly women.
Someone has sand in their vagina.
Don't like walking? Please hand over your legs pussy, god, let me get you a wheel chair you lazy bastard.
Women are stuck up = you have no game
Don't like the subway? Who does, just get on and get off. I'll buy some tissues to take care of all those tears.
There is plenty to do in the city, you just have to stop bitching and do it. Try going to a museum, a play, the orchestra, a sporting event, etc. At the very least stop bitching like a 12 year old girl.
I disagree with the lower pay, since you only focus on being in a specific group of people ( finance) who make more than the majority of the population. I do agree with the dirtiness and higher cost of living and crappy weather though.
LOL
museum, play, orchestra, sporting event, etc. I did all of that within my first month of living in NYC. It got old quick, only need to go once or twice with the exception of sporting events .But you have to deal with the long island jersey shore looking fags at these sporting events. Who the hell wants to see the knicks or mets play anyway?
I didn't say I don't like walking, but what I am saying is that I prefer to drive my brand new car to get around and to work without worrying about parking or traffic.
women are stuck up in NYC. Everyone is looking for the next best thing, that's why so many people are single in NYC. They judge you more on your status, job and income than any other place in the U.S.
The nightlife is nothing special. If you can find your niche in one of the other large cities then it will be much better
Why hasn't Illiniprogrammer invaded this thread yet ?
NYC is a place for the young and hungry. Sounds like you're getting old and cranky.
NYC is for many ppl... not losers tho. if u cant handle it shutup and get out
Women in NYC.... lol I sure as shit hope that isn't why anyone is there. Not that a place like Chicago is much better, but come on. NYC is a hell hole if you're trying to find a decent chick--the pretentiousness is obscene.
I agree. The women in NYC are ugly but think they're hot just because they wear brand clothing and carry expensive purses.
Any city in the south, texas, midwest, or california, blows away NYC when it comes to chicks.
ive actually lived in the midwest, south and texas, and i can assure you that is not the case. midwest is average at best (though by far the nicest women). the south has some attractive people, but while they may seem sweet on the surface are actually more fake than anybody ive met in new york (at least new yorkers dont try to be nice and stab u in the back.. as bitchy as a lot of them are, in many ways theyre more genuine). texas has more fat people than i have ever seen, and those who are attractive fall into the same category as the rest of the south, with the exception of austin (more attractive than average, and definitely nicer). and cant really say southern girls are my type... to give you an idea of the types of douches they go for, imagine wearing a pastel polo tucked into khakis at a dive bar.. yeah, and the women are the female version of that. no thanks.
however, having been to cali a couple times, ill agree that the women there blow away chicks in nyc anyday
Manhattan has so few high quality luxury apartment buildings. Most of the properties are old decaying pieces of crap. The entire city just looks ugly.
Did you get mugged or something?
Is there anything you wrote about that couldn't have been figured out before moving there?
Driving a car everyday is not fun...and that's not to say that sitting on a gross public transit car is either, but at least you can veg-out, listen to music or read the paper...as opposed to sitting in bumper-to-bumper traffic trying to jam out to a decent song in between the traffic reports, commercials, news headlines and talk show gossip.
Like the answer to about 32% of the post on WSO this month...the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
Regards
I mean I'm not saying Midwest is amazing by any means (not bad though), but NYC sure as shit isn't great. It isn't even better than average in the Northeast.
NY and Chicago are both great cities. NY is bigger and has more stuff but you have to pay for all that in a variety of ways. (surprise surprise no free lunch). This who has hotter chicks argument is straight up ridiculous. Wherever there is money, there will be chicks. There is lots and lots of money in Chicago and even more so in NY. Thus, many chicks.
Quantum, just stop.
I agree with Jhoratio, the whole who has hotter chicks argument is sophomoric. NYC has plenty of hot women and plenty of easy women. I have been down south as well as in most major cities and see nice tail everywhere. If you can talk to women and have a good time you will get laid.
I am sorry, but if you cannot find things to do in NYC or any other city then you are not looking. So many people piss and moan about NYC, it is just pathetic. Every city is crowded and relatively expensive. I am in Philadelphia now and there is plenty of good and bad.
Go move to Milwaukee or some shit and stop crying. Worried about Jersey shore looking douche bags? Who gives a fuck what other people look like. You sound like an insecure little baby crying about other people at events. Who wants to see the Knicks? If the tickets are decent then go. We got the 76er's and it is a fun to go and enjoy a night out.
Man, how on earth to cry babies such as this get into banking. The more threads I read like this the more I think banking is where the anti social little bitches go. Some alpha male bankers please comment in this thread and revive my old image of banking.
If you don't think NYC is a great city, you have a problem with the concept of a city period. "Too much people, too dirty, too stuck up.." are the ramblings of a country mouse who can't handle city life.
In the city, you have town mice and then you have dogs a.k.a. Frank Slaugherty's 99th percentile. If the town mice can't handle the dogs, a pussy like you has no chance.
lol @ people who say that because there is money in NYC, there are chicks. Yes, you'll have more of the very top of the line in an absolute numbers sense, but the median is lower than plenty of other big cities (hell, even below a place like Boston) and there is a hell of a lot more pretentiousness and the like.
Now let's talk about underrated cities though. In my opinion, Austin and Chapel Hill (just count the whole Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill triangle here) are easily 2 of the most underrated cities. If it weren't for there being very few trading jobs in these locations, I'd be in one of these places in a heart beat. Both have very high levels of education (much higher than NYC/Chicago), lots of attractive females (the median is much much better than Chicago or NYC if we are going to compare it to those two), much better weather, lower cost of living (and nicer housing/environment/etc. at that), large 20-30something population, solid sports teams in the vicinity if that's your taste, good universities and schools, etc.
LOL.
New York City area has the highest percentage and the absolute highest number of high net worth individuals of any urban region.
"Medians" is a useless term, often propped up by gubmint/middle workers (i.e. poors) and is absolutely irrelevant in a mega-metropolis like New York City (or London) that holds many slum corridors in the outer boroughs that drag down the overall medians in the city-limits. The favored corridors in New York City urban area offer the absolute best (in wealth/culture). You should look at more relevant information, such as which area has the highest tax brackets;
Wealthiest by top 5% income in the United States per Internal Revenue Service
You also look at which region has highest mkt cap companies, the highest number of high net worth individuals, the highest amount of billionaires.
The answer will always be (1) New York, (2) London, (3) Silicon Valley.
Not Podunk/Hickville North Carolina/Chicago/Austin/Atlanta (that is, unless you're aspiring to a life of mediocrity).
Oh Jesus, is thread going to turn into this city vs that city crap again. I love a lot of smaller cities and think they all have something to offer. With that said, comparing NYC to anything in NYC is a travesty.
You don't like NYC then fine, leave. Don't bitch about it. There is so much to do in NYC. If you are bored it is because you just don't like the city. Philadelphia is 1/7th the size of NYC population wise and I still find new things to do. Try meeting some people who have lived in the city their whole life and having them show you around. Go to the park, go for a bike ride, go to different museums, go to the movies, different bars, restaurants, little Italy, Chinatown, whatever. How you can be bored in any major city boggles my mind.
To the whole women issue. Get real. You go to high end clubs and the women will be all about money. Go to more college/younger crowd bars and the people will be able getting drunk and having a good time. I simply cannot believe that you are having trouble meeting women in a city of 8+ million. I have had ZERO problem in Philadelphia and that is a shit city if I ever saw one.
When am I talking about attractiveness as the only factor or having trouble meeting 'a' woman? And yes, there are 8 million people, roughly half of them are women. Are you forgetting that there are also more dudes? And if you're going to a club just meet bitches for anything other than sport sex, you're fucked anyway. I don't live in the city personally and have no desire to--the point is that the concentration of females with the traits I prefer (and many others I know) is lower in NYC than it is in other places. I don't think there is a great trade-off in that aspect.
And yes, Philly is a shithole of a city. No denying that. Other than some cheesesteaks, Wharton, and Penn Relays, and a cheap quick travel to DC and NYC there isn't shit to be happy about.
Did Ellen Pierce at Love Solutions do the math and tell you there's only 8 women in NYC for you?
Marvelous restaurants, cafes, shops, museums, broadway musicals, central park jogging, random encounters with strangers who turns out to be your best friend's sister or your professor's assistant. Stuff like that :p
What is this Quantum (i.e the original poster with a different screen name) obsession with New York City?
Isn't it a bit disturbing that he's starting threads with his other aliases answering his own questions? (Brianklk/Quantumn)
Brianklk/Quantimn.....we get it, you're a poor, loser, you can't hack it in New York City. We get it, it upsets you that New York City oh so desirable ("overpriced" is a silly word; supply/demand, Eco. 101) , it is the center of wealth, the center of elite, the center of power, the center of culture.
Truth is, everyone and everything that matters has a footing in New York City.
People like you belong in the Midwest/Podunk....Chicago or wherever it is.
gulf stream,
Your comment is equal in idiocy to anything quantum has said up to this point.
^^
Who is this poor?
Frankly, I think the pro NYC argument is just as obnoxious as the con NYC argument.
NYC is a great city. It is also very large. For some people this is a negative, for others a positive. Arguing which city is better is entirely subjective. Lets knock this shit off.
Where in that post did you see anything about those other cities having higher median incomes? Go read that one again.
New York City can feel "too big", if you're living in Midtown.
I love my cities large, but the size of New York City feels just right here in the beautiful West Village. Relatively isolated, quiet streets, free of obese tourists from the Midwest/Chicago, elite/interesting neighbors, picturesque streets, easy 24 hour access to anything that matters (eatable food for instance), stress-free car commute to Midtown (via the WSH).
It really feels like small village in the middle of the big city. It's really amazing (no wonder its the 3rd most expensive neighborhood in the US, according to sales data)
Nice diversion from the fact that you can't read.
everything is overpriced - maybe everything is old and dirty. - wrong Commuting each morning using the subway is a hassle. - faster than driving from the suburbs You really have to love walking to live in nyc. - you must be really out of shape to complain about this The blazing summer heat sucks too. - agree
All the women seem stuck up and pretentious. - true, but they're hot
women are stuck up in NYC. Everyone is looking for the next best thing - you sound like you're looking for something more long-term. that doesn't mean that this city isn't a good place to find hot women and get laid.
NYC is a great place to live long term--if you're the type who likes that atmosphere. I grew up in Brooklyn and went to high school in Chelsea, nothing sounds better to me than living in the west village with a wife and 1 kid.
I think this is a trend we will begin to see a lot of. In the 1970's, the flight to the suburbs was the big thing. You could get some space, a yard, a nice house, drive in to work easily, and enjoy the suburban lifestyle.
Today's suburbs are very different, particularly in the northeast. Edge cities have developed, and as suburbs (and even exurbs) have grown, the lifestyle is completely different. Lots of traffic, congestion, high property taxes (at least in NJ), need to drive everywhere, less social opportunities (since everyone is so spaced out). I think more and more people are going to realize that raising children in a city is better, where they can walk places, play in the park with kids (sure, you have a backyard now in the suburbs now, but kids in the suburbs live so far from their friends that they just sit inside and play video games). It will be interesting to see more and more people that grew up in the suburbs raising their kids in the city simply because cities over better lifestyle opportunities than suburbs currently do.
Gulfstreamliberal, you're a freaking joke. You went to that overpriced crappy college, NYU, and think you're balling because you live in the west village. Lol! A number of chicago neighborhoods, including gold coast, river north, and lincoln park, are way better than the west village in every imaginable way. Enjoy living in that filthy humid high-tax city that is infested with ugly jewish girls and anorexic "models"!
LOL, well that certainly isn't what the free market (or people with $$) think;
Average Sales Price:
Shut the f up ppl. Grow some balls, make some money, and stop being little bitches. Stop comparing women it is retarded. NY has hot women, Chicago has hot women, Austin has hot women, small town i grew up in has hot women, a shitty state school has a shit ton of hot women. What is your point?
Honestly, if you dont like the chicks that hang around in bars then dont date one.
And whoever said that NYC is the center of culture is a dumbass and a vagina.
Obviously OP, quantum, and gulfstreamliberal are the same person. I am concerned about his/her mental health.
100% agree. I heard he is working at a regional satellite office (chicago of course) and didnt get NY (his 1st choice). SORRY BRO
miami and south beach...all day bitches
As far as the women, it's not what city has the most hot women, it's where the chicks you like are most receptive to your game. I grew up in Miami and went to a state school in Florida, and both had tons of hot women, but I've actually had more success with chicks in smaller towns in Virginia and Illinois. The combination of my game and my taste is more effective in situations where I can be the new guy in town with the nice car and job.
Point is, by sheer numbers NYC has to have a shitload of beautiful women. If they're not feeling you then cool, find someplace where you can bag dimes. But don't knock NYC, it just wasn't the place for you.
It's not for everyone - but I feel like in your first year you'll know that quickly. Definitely ups and downs to living here - but for the most part if you enjoy living an active life, and are outgoing, then this is a great place to spend a few years. Being outgoing is important here - even if you know people already. If you're the shyer type - this place can feel pretty lonely.
Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Chicago, Boston, LA >>>>>> NYC, London
Given that I'm black and the rest of the misogynist and racist bullshit in this thread isn't worth addressing (I mean it's not like we don't know how white people really think), I have lol @ this comment. Blatant "I'm either chinese or have a HUGE thing for asian girls".
You should channel your insecurities since you think you know how white people think.
Ehh, NYC isn't right for everyone. I'm gonna move there when I get out of college, because I think it is a smart career move, but as soon has I have an established reputation in the finance, I'm going to a warmer place, with better looking women, and a lower cost of living.
The NYC Subway system is the only mass transportation system in the world that runs 24/7. I think that is one thing that makes the city special. I am not usually one that care about diversity, but I have to say the people are the next thing that makes the city unique. My answer to anyone who hates NYC is leave; enough people already want to live here and we don't need you.
I grew up in the Washington, D.C. suburbs. I'm Fing sick of diversity. Nothing ruins neighborhoods, female attractiveness and overall quality of life like foreigners, blacks and hispanics do. I know that's incredibly racist, but it's completely true.
So it must be justified for white people to move into neighborhoods within the outer boroughs of NYC, increase the cost of living and then complain that things are too expensive? White people like you reinforce why some minorities think white people as a group are inherently racist and feel entitled at every turn. For you to try to defend yourself by saying you have and are exposed to minorities is a joke. Last time I checked, most people don't need to provide specific examples to prove that they're not a racist. On similar note, your strongest experience of ethnic diversity was a hispanic person exposing you to pot? Also did that black Obama family mess up the neighborhood surrounding Pennsylvania Avenue when they moved in? The prices of real estate and quality of living surely dropped sometime thereafter since black people moved in. The comments on this board never surprise me considering most posters think going to/graduating college/grad school and five years of work experience means they've become some reputable philosopher of life.
"I grew up in the Washington, D.C. suburbs. I'm Fing sick of diversity. Nothing ruins neighborhoods, female attractiveness and overall quality of life like foreigners, blacks and hispanics do. I know that's incredibly racist, but it's completely true."
Some time ago, about 500 years, an experiment started on how diversity affects the attractiveness of a woman. I cannot say whether it was through intelligent design or pure chaos, but the results were shocking. People from around the world came together and started making babies. It was a melting pot of black, white, asian, indigenous, green, purple and blue. The women, while attractive in their own right, created the most beautiful women in the world and are remarkable in every way fathomable. Gentlemen, who I speak of are Brazilian women. And for those that disagree, well, I only question your sexuality. Diversity is great.
How is this at all true? ruins neighborhoods? So what happens when you see a white homeless man you say he has black hispanic or "foreigner" parents.
Also foreigner? You use that term loosely I suppose unless your Native American and non of your ancestors traveled to America
I didn't realize the color of the people living in the home had anything to do with the value of the home. So when you go buy a house your going to ask what race the people living in the home before you was? So you only think Blonde-hair blue eyed people are attractive? Ridiculous open your eyes. Self-evidently correct how is that at all possible.
Some Americans would prefer a little homogeneity? Yes you and your fellow clansmen.
München.
It's not that NYC is bad, it's just not the best in my opinion. For those who say that there aren't enough things to do in other cities, I call bull. How many clubs are you likely to go to regularly? Certainly there are enough attractions in any major city to entertain a young professional, especially considering the amount of free time an analyst has. And if you can tell the difference between the best restaurant in NYC and the best in Chicago, you shouldn't be a banker; you should be a food critic.
For me, I prioritize two things when picking where to live: weather, and cost of living/taxes. NYC does not fare well on either front. Based on the former criteria, sf/la would win out; dallas or houston would come out ahead based on the latter. Of course, as somebody who has only spent a few weeks in nyc, I could be missing some x-factor to the city.
That being said, there are professional advantages to starting in nyc, such as generally stronger dealflow. But, judging the city on its own merits, I would pick almost any other. Northeastern climate + the highest taxes and CoL in the country just do not appeal to me.
I've lived on both front and if given the choice of NYC/LA with the SAME pay and SAME opportunity, LA wins out hands down. Less stressful and better weather.
However, there were more opportunities in LA, better networking options, etc.
PS: In before iillinoisprogrammer starts 10 page essay on why shitcago > all
Monkey shit, eh? So Indians, Salvadorians, Mexicans, Arabs, Pakistanis, blacks, etc. increase home values? These people make the streets cleaner and quieter at night? These people don't stink up apartment buildings? These people bring with them attractive women? I mean, defend your position. I think my comment, while incredibly politically incorrect, is self-evidently correct.
I'm remembering my now forever-ago econ degree. Empirically, foreigners push up housing prices and reduce crime on net (can't emphasize that enough). Ceteris Peribus, immigrants work harder and abide by the law more than their same SES counterparts in their new country. Of course, certain ethnic groups average out different ways.
If you want more info on the housing price effect, check out the Muriel Boatlift.
Personally, I like diversity. That's probably an outgrowth of my love for asian chicks though =\
Not talking about foreigners and home values. Talking about foreigners and their lack of deoderant on the metro, their stench in the apartment building, their terrible driving. I respect their intellect and work ethic, just not their odors.
lol please tell me you didn't just say that, Vtech..... please....
That's just... wow. And I don't care if it is politically correct or not--not really my prerogative--it is simply racist and really incorrect. Go to an area where there are a bunch of poor whites (or poor [any group or subculture] and you will find some apartment buildings left like shitholes that are loud all day and night with racket.
Well, as a guy who has lived with middle class Pakistanis, Indians (I see the irony), and Mexicans in relatively wealthy areas in the D.C. area, I can attest to the fact that wealth is not a factor in living without class or dignity, it's cultural. My best friend is a wealthy 27-yeard-old Bolivian and he lives in a tiny house with his parents and 2 brothers--just because it's cultural. And as a person who has worked in affordale housing finance for the past 3 1/2 years and who has experienced extreme forms of diversity my entire life (my hispanic friends gave me my first pot in high school--and god bless 'em for it), I attest to the opinion that "diversity" is way over rated. After all, what's the universal law throughout our planet? That white girls are the most desired jewel of them all.
That's not to say diversity is bad, but that it is certainly understandable that some Americans would prefer a little homogeneity for once.
BTW, I challenge you to look someone in the eye and tell them there is a single hot girl in Irvine, CA. If you're as progressive as you want to sound, you'll know what I'm talking about.
chicago is the best city in the world. this is a matter of fact ...cannot be debated.
So you don't find black and hispanic women attractive and presuppose that it is a universal thing because your limited experience in this world has given you that impression and you believe that asking me about it on an online forum will make me understand and agree with your beliefs about most non-white races as smelly/lazy/unattactive?
Well by golly, you sure convinced me..... ..... ...... not.
If your argument is attractiveness, Central/South America have probably the best concentration of talent you're going to get--I think anybody here that has been to Argentina/Uruguay/etc. can attest to that. The ethnic food argument just makes me laugh.... quite silly really.
NYC is definitely overrated, but it is a great city.
I think as a city to live in London is WAY nicer than New York though. Show me one neighborhood in NYC that is as nice as Mayfair, Chelsea, or Kensington? There is nothing even in the same league. NYC seems to lack character in comparison. I'l admit downtown (broadly speaking, pretty much everything below 25'th or so in my eyes) is pretty nice, but midtown and murray hill (where loads of banking analysts live) are just completely soulless. Just my two cents.
NYC has a charm to it that not everyone picks up on. Maybe I will get sick of it after living there for a while again, but to me, NYC is tops.
Although I am a conservative who despises the overly PC liberal enviroment, Virginia Tech's rant is borderline racist and downright ignorant. He seems like a typical white southern republican who hates the fact that America is becoming more diverse and constantly changing.
Odds that VA Tech is an avid Sarah Palin supporter?
I'm probably the only person on this thread who has lived with and befriend people of color (in fact, I hardly have a friend who is white and male--well, one of my friends is Greek...) and who actually works in a low-profit industry whose target clientele is about 85% people of color. So if you all feel so bad about my comments, put your money where you mouth is an move to Harlem or quit your 6-figure jobs and join me in constructing affordable housing for the poor communities nationwide, most which are dominated by people of color. See, it's so much easier to throw monkey shit and to act all high and mighty then to do anything about it. What's worse? Someone with prejudices who dedicates his life to the advancement of minority communities or people who lie about their prejudices and ignore the poor and colored entirely?
LOL, I detest Sarah Palin and I'm not a southerner. Once again, I'm from Washington, D.C., which by 21st century standards makes me a northerner. But it's cool--by your standards, it's cool to make discriminatory comments about people who are white, poor, from the south or who are conservatives so long as your senses aren't offended or so long as your prejudices are confirmed.
You act like your the only white person with friends of color....do you tell them how you feel about them i doubt that. Also, I'm not white. Thought my name made it obvious. Some people would rather give up high paying jobs and work to help people and others would not.
To each there own.
Surely you jest.
You usually don't refer to people who are your friends are your 'black' friends or your 'Mexican' friends. One of the ways most cultural anthropologists analyze and investigate the acceptance of other groups (in this case, other races) in various societies is whether or not intermarriage and interdating exists and is accepted. As a deplorer of intermixing and of other races even living in the same place, you fit every description I have ever heard as a racist. Anthony/ANT would be proud of you.
i grew up living in projects and lived in harlem for the first couple years of living in nyc and have friends who are 'gang members to ivy leaguers' ay ay ddp and trinitarios.. but i must say vtech you must like skinny plain looking white chicks
ill gladly take a curvy ethnic chick any day over some pasty white no ass having midwestern chick.
and that is why i love NYC-- diverse females
This. Give me a beautiful Latina any day.
"The rent is too damn high!"
I cant believe how many racist southerners I know who talk about how them being friends with black people make them cool.
No offense to southerners, but in my experience they are normally ignorant beyond comprehension.
You really love to make unfounded generalizations don't you?
Just go where you're most comfortable. If you don't like NYC, then leave.
Case in point: it's ok to make generalizations about southerners (which I'm not) being ignorant. It's ok to say white girls are skinny and have no ass. But God forbid should someone say that Indians stink up the entire apartment building with the smell of curry. Or God forbid should someone point out the facts associated with blacks being disproportionately involved in crime. Or God forbid should someone point out that some people, oh my God, LIKE white people [ducks chair].
See what I mean when I said you all have your own prejudices but you lie to yourself and pretend like you don't. Your prejudices have just been judged by the media to be OK.
Except nobody made broad comments of any other races and the comments made about Southerners were, at best, in jest and generally are referring to a stereotype that you fit that is as unfounded as the stereotypes you presume other races fit. You certainly are not a very intelligent person capable of reading comprehension or even understanding irony because you would have understood this very quickly.
I don't think you get it VTech. We all know there are some smart people in the South and have encountered the odd curvaceous white girl. The generalizations you mention were made for the sake of comedy. You on the other hand, are criticizing non-whites for "ruining neighborhoods," because they lack "class and dignity." Irony aside, you are simply using correlations to defend your prejudices. Being black doesn't predispose someone to be a criminal, growing in a low-income, possibly segregated environment does.
Thanks for taking some of the heat off of me VTech lol
Jerome, don't you have a liquor store to rob?
Huh? Now you're the one being racist. Did you think I said something to you because your screen name was "Jerome"? LOL. Love you PC thugs.
awm, ever been to central PA? Just as backward.
They are not religious fundamentalists who are pandered and lied to by a major political party.
Technically, Texans aren't considered "southerners" so it's kind of technically incorrect to lump Texans and South Carolinians together. I say ignorant is as ignorant does--the "northern" states are bankrupt and the "southern" "ignorant" states have the population flow toward them. I guess they're doing something right.
The southern states have the highest rates of teen pregnancy, poverty, obesity, and the lowest life expectancy. But yeah some of them of their books are balanced, congratulations.
Yeah, and most of the southern states are 25-35% black population. I'd look a little deeper into those statistics and see where they're coming from. You can't compare Mississippi to Connecticut.
Edit: that's not a commentary on blacks as a race, it's more of a commentary on the poverty culture in America among blacks since the Civil War as a result of slavery, Jim Crow, and the FDR/LBJ welfare state.
I agree that these issues affect the black population more, but I am guessing the southern states don't do much with regards to social spending for these people. This is perhaps why the books are balanced...
You honestly make me want to vomit. There is NOBODY stopping you from giving your paycheck to any social issue you please. Please, stop spreading your socialist propaganda.
Agree with VATech on this. The LBJ Great Society decimated the black community by rewarding laziness and having children out of wedlock.
So, if you believe this to be true, why have you attacked black individuals as a race (and virtually all other non-whites, but we'll get to that next)--associating them with virtually every negative stereotype possible, most of which are completely unrelated to this discussion--instead of the system that was created by white individuals that started the mess?
Touche.
I honestly think most Americans discriminate against people who discriminate. People should be entitled to their own personal preferences. A lot of people like to live with their own race, it's not a new trend, it's a trend that's been in place for thousands of years, it's not going anywhere. Personally, I try not to discriminate against those who discriminate.
I personally don't think racism is the most efficient to carry out business procedures, because deserving people are often overlooked, but that is irrelevant to what I am saying. A lot of of very wealthy people are racist, when they make racist remarks, I turn around, smile, and pretend like I know what they are talking about. One of my grandfathers was Jewish, and I hate to say this, but I have gotten my MOST valuable trading information from a guy that HATES Jews.
IMHO, if you are trying to succeed in the business world, the best thing to do is work all angles. Racial discrimination is wrong, and discriminating against those who discriminate is wrong, but in my short life of experience, I've learned that the best thing to do is work ALL angles.
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Well, as they say, the road to Hell was paved with good intentions.
First of all, a l ot of it is tongue in cheek (like deoderant for Indians--I mean, there's some truth to it, but it's just good fun. Learn to fcking laugh at yourself, for fck sake. Jesus fcking Christ. You liberal PC thugs can't take a fcking joke). Second of all, you can't separate the black community from blacks. Yes, one can blame historical racism, Jim Crow and rich, white Democrat welfare policies for black plight. Nevertheless, that doesn't make east St. Louis anymore desirable for me to live in. That doesn't mean I want to rent an apartment in Kansas City, KS or SE Washington, D.C. or Harlem or Oakland given the crime, poverty, noise, violence, lawlessness, etc.
I'm not associating the black community with any negative stereotype that the facts don't bear out. I know to you PC nicks that the facts can be offensive, but take that up with Lyndon Johnson and Franklin Roosevelt, not me.
You seem to be incredibly misguided. I'll end the discussion about the races here, but please realize--so that you are not ignorant for the rest of your life--that just because someone disagrees with you does not mean that they are being 'PC' or liberal or anything. It can mean, like it does in this case, that they think you're just a racist moron. I have no problems with you saying the things you do--that's your world and it doesn't hurt me or anybody else--but I do believe that it shows you to be a very racist, discriminatory person, illogical, and an all around shithead.
Ad hominem attacks instead of addressing the argument itself... nice.
Wow. Is this what the US is really like? What the hell does conservatism have to go with racism (or liberalism with political correctness)? Take a political science class, read a book, learn to read. If I lived in states I'd b be a staunch Republican, as Milton Friedman says, "with a capital R on grounds of expediency, not on principle." To equate the Keynesian social welfare policies of the modern Democratic party with "policies for black plight."
Honestly, I saw your star, you may have been good enough at excel to land a great job in the industry but no one who has this kind of logical reasoning/verbal skills should consider themselves in any way intelligent.
P.S. Alot of the silly racist banter on this site is associated with some macho image, which is funny because I go to a top b-school and I know what all you finance types are like. Probs some skinny pale tool who gets a boner from being an internet gangster.
food, entertainment, shopping, job opportunities, universities (columbia, nyu), the people.
Jesus, a thread about smelling Indian food transforms into a black guy with an ego the size of a blimp. Before you start crapping on "internet" thugs, realize you are one yourself.
Oh and the "I have a big cock because I am black" thing is old. This has been researched and proven wrong. Some BS that white slave owners made up, etc. Women care much more about your paycheck and job than you "monster cock".
Hahaha oh ANT the closer "monster cock"
Can you point out where anybody said that, at all? Because predominantly one poster in this thread has made incredibly racist, illogical, and out of hand remarks about every race under the sun, not about 'smelling Indian food'. Are you too stupid to actually read what you are responding to, Anthony?
http://www.kinseyinstitute.org/resources/FAQ.html#penis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Penis_frequency.svg
This should be enough penis size proof to shut people up.
Nice diversion, ANT. I'm baffled that you allow the racist troll Virginia Tech to continue posting on this site. Absolutely baffling.
I don't allow shit Jerome. I don't own or run this site. I am an admin. VT is expressing his opinion, just as you are. I apologize for my "diversion". I didn't realize I couldn't address other statements within a post.
Freedom of speech isn't for popular speech bro. I am also not the internet police.
I'm a racist. Nice. Way to tell it to me. Now go rent an apartment in Oakland or shut the fuck up.
VT, play nice. Considering that Jerome has requested that I censor everything that he disagrees with, you cannot say things that he might not like. Please PM him and get a list of approved words so that we can all be friends again.
Jerome you are an idiot
I think that's a bit silly - NYC isn't the only place to establish a reputation in finance. And it will probably take awhile to do that... then after you have, where ever you move to, you'll have to start all over there to establish yourself in a new place with new contacts. Why wouldn't you just move to your desired location now and get a head start in that specific area/ network, etc?!
Jerome what race are you?
Well, I guess this thread has been concluded--NYC is awesome, VT4ever loves minorities, and that is why it is so worth the money to live there.
LOL.
Is NYC that bad? I was planning on applying for a job there.
lol nice censorship, Anthony. Very ethical of you. Pointing out racist comments isn't allowed, but saying various races smell/ are dumb/ugly/inferior/etc. is acceptable. Good to know.
And I am white.
Feel free to point out comments. Insinuating that I support them a page back is bullshit. I don't bring your name into random topics, keep mine out of it. My job is not to censor opinions. Grow up and deal with it. Bring my name into shit again and you will be banned.
Damn, son...
:)
I'm from the midwest, I like being from there but I would never want to continue living there. That said, I'm not a fan of NYC. 40% of my paycheck gets jacked and I don't even get to have a car. I find driving to be relaxing and even if I had a car, driving in nyc would be no fun.
I've lived in LA and Seattle. LA is the best in my opinion. The girls are way hotter than in nyc, if you disagree with me then you clearly have not been to LA. and driving down the PCH along the beach after smoking a fat blunt is the best feeling the world. Even without the blunt, its still awesome. Quoted from my friend at GS in LA- 'And banking out here is far better. I dont have to sit in the office and jerk off just for the sake of being in the office. If i finished my shit, I go home and if they need me at 10 pm on a Friday, theyd shoot me an email and I'd go in. But if not, I'd enjoy the weekend'
Funny, I just moved to the Midwest, Kansas City, although I'm not sure it's technically considered the "Midwest" (I think they call it the plain states). Moved here from Washington, D.C. I love it here. The place is an absolute gem that virtually no one outside of the area knows about. Girls are gorgeous, open roads, great mix of classic urban architecture and suburban houses, affordable living, strong economy. I've been to Los Angeles for work. In a million years I wouldn't live there unless I were a mega millionaire. The traffic is maddening, the city is ugly, Beverly Hills really isn't even that nice (it's basically an outdoor shopping mall), cost of living is ridiculous, crime is high, the city itself is teetering on bankruptcy, school system is mediocre at best. Los Angeles' only redeeming quality is its weather. And Malibu, CA was pretty darn nice, but no one can afford to live there who isn't a rich celebrity.
Haha I've never been to Kansas City, but I'm from Cleveland... not the greatest place at the moment. Dying city, dying sports teams, but it has upcoming and explosive healthcare. I should have clarified, when I say LA, I don't mean all of it... just mainly the South Bay area (manhattan beach, hermosa beach, redondo beach, torrance, el segundo). Great beaches, everybody there is chill and not trying to become a star lol, and its just a great atmosphere. But yeah, Hollywood, Beverly hills and the area have shitty people and horribly traffic. However, owning property in the southbay is expensive too, but wayyy less than in hollywood.. and your gonna be a 10 minute walk away from the beach which is clutch
NYC is great but I see where the OP is coming from
As an analyst your first paycheck every month just gets swallowed up by rent
Sans bonus, you're pretty much working for minimum wage. Add student loans into the mix and you're not looking at a lot of fun
There is just too much in NYC, I would love to live there for a while. However, living there more than a few years in a row would just be too draining. I personally would prefer Boston, its a nice sized city, good sports, highly educated and a large portion of the population is young working professionals. I have heard that alot of the college kids can be total douche bags but that happens everywhere. Kids in college think they are smarter than the world, that will always happen.
This is what's so great about living in NYC....
http://www.collegehumor.com/video/6507729/man-licking-shoes-on-nyc-subw…
It's all about money and history, and about what NYC stands for. Everyone all over the world views it as a place with a ton of people and a ton of cultural variety. You get the 4 changing seasons in new york (snowy winters, spring, hot summer, fall). You have the whole world wrapped up in one massive urban landscape. So yeah it costs more to live there but there's also a ton of money floating around, and you can make a ton of money if you are business savvy and know how to market what you've got and make people happy. If you want more modern architectural beauty and better weather, head to california or florida, or even texas.
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