D&C SF, Capital Group LA/SF, T. Rowe London
Thoughts on these teams / office cultures for post-MBA analyst roles? Have interviews coming up. Thanks all.
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T Rowe’s London office is a lot of fun. Great culture. Can’t speak to the others.
Thank you!
100% agreed, great people- but I would note current T. Rowe London comp will be ~40% less vs other roles...
Why? Interesting
They're all fine - you should probably go through the process and see what offers you get first.
Don't really want to go through that many interviews so trying to figure out which to graciously bow out of ahead of time.
I strongly encourage you to go through all the interviews. These are extremely competitive roles that you could get them all but you could also get no offer at all.
In my experience D&C is great. They are very talented investors, they take investing very seriously, the business has done well despite secular challenges facing the industry, and the people seem really nice. Not sure about comp but I think it should be top of street given private ownership, high AUM/head, and minimal marketing effort. Seats are very hard to come by.
comp is nowhere near top of street (relative to IB especially) based on what ive heard
Why are you bringing up IB pay when discussing AM? Everyone knows pay lags IB for the first few years... no IBers are getting high 7 figures like they do at privately-owned AMs
Can't tell if this is a joke or not... at many boutiques, the Partners at GS, and many "Head of x" groups at BBs all pull high 7 figures.
Also, at some AMs comp doesn't even lag IB at the beginning. i know a few where first year associate comp is around mid bucket first year analyst comp
Yeah, I exited SS to a LO a year out of undergrad. I'm making about the same as my IB (BB) friends this year with infinitely better hours. I guarantee the PM's here make way more than a typical MD in a decent year
Is it interesting? I’m doing well in interviews but can’t get hard for this job… seems not so sexy. Thoughts?
Because it's not sexy lol. It's basically an apprenticeship model as an associate. You're really just getting paid to learn and shit (at least at my shop). No one really outside of IM knows what the role is (won't impress some chicks at a bar with it) and job functions vary from firm-to-firm. That said, I'm enjoying learning about global growth investing and taking a LT view on a company's fundamentals. I see you'd be coming from PE and it's very different from IB/PE/ER (was SS prior)... not a project-driven role at all. It's a role where you need to take initiative, be interested in reading news a lot, and just sitting and thinking long-term.
I have superdays for all three and have the option to do them on 2 days (e.g., three pick two). Which two do I pick?
This is a no brainer. No disrespect to T. Rowe which is a great firm in its own right. But Capital and Dodge & Cox. Two of the best firms on the planet period. The business economics (and privately owned by the employees - do the math…) and the cultures. No one leaves either place (voluntarily). That’s why you don’t hear much about them. Because the spots are so few and no one gives them up. Wall Street’s best kept secrets. Capital first if you like the idea of having your own P&L.
Agreed. Not to mention - Baltimore or LA/SF. Cmon lol
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