What are they teaching in college these days??

Used to be involved in fresher hiring drives and let me tell you - I have no idea how these kids got into "prestigious" colleges and got degrees????

Some golden examples - 
- Student clearly says "equity doesn't have a cost". Question was about the components of WACC. Didn't believe me when I corrected him. 
- Student couldn't name the stock exchange in the country. 
- Student interested in investment banking but didn't know what exactly a banker did. Source of interest: Wolf of wall street. 
- Student didn't know how a bank made money - as in, that the main source of income was via interest on loans given. Replied about 2 minutes later - "is it through deposits?". 
- Common theme - "what does this ratio mean" gets a response of how that ratio is calculated. Like what does Contribution ratio mean - response is contribution / sales * 100. What does EBIT represent? 7 / 10 times is "Earnings before interest tax".

Not sure how they will get jobs, or internships. Not expecting geniuses but no basic knowledge???? What are the schools teaching them?

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Based on previous WSO threads, there are several factors contributing to the perceived decline in the quality of education and preparedness of students graduating from prestigious colleges:

  1. Curriculum Gaps:

    • Many schools are not adequately preparing students for specific career paths like investment banking. The curriculum often lacks practical, real-world applications and focuses more on theoretical knowledge.
    • There is a significant gap in teaching essential financial concepts and practical skills that are directly applicable in the job market.
  2. Lack of Career Guidance:

    • Schools often fail to provide students with clear guidance on potential career paths, earnings potential, and the requirements to land specific roles. This leaves students unaware of what is expected in professional environments.
    • Career advice and placement services are limited, and students do not receive the necessary support to transition from academic to professional life effectively.
  3. Quality of Teaching:

    • The quality of teaching can vary significantly. Some educators may not have the industry experience or practical knowledge to teach students effectively about careers in finance and investment banking.
    • There is a reliance on associate professors or educators who may not be fully engaged or updated with current industry practices.
  4. Cultural and Structural Issues:

    • The focus of education has shifted in some institutions, with more emphasis on branding and credentials rather than actual learning and skill development.
    • Public schools, in particular, may face challenges such as underfunding, outdated materials, and a lack of resources to provide high-quality education.
  5. Student Engagement and Motivation:

    • Students may lack motivation or engagement with their studies, leading to a superficial understanding of key concepts. This can be exacerbated by cultural changes and the availability of online learning, which may not provide the same level of interaction and engagement as traditional in-person education.
  6. Practical Experience:

    • There is often a lack of practical, hands-on experience in the curriculum. Students may not have opportunities to apply their knowledge in real-world scenarios, leading to gaps in their understanding and preparedness for the job market.

Examples Highlighted:

  • Misunderstanding of Financial Concepts: Students not understanding the cost of equity or the components of WACC.
  • Lack of Basic Knowledge: Inability to name the stock exchange or understand how banks make money.
  • Misguided Interests: Interest in investment banking based on media portrayals rather than a genuine understanding of the role.
  • Incorrect Financial Calculations: Misconceptions about annualizing balance sheet numbers.
  • Superficial Knowledge: Knowing how to calculate ratios but not understanding their significance or implications.

Conclusion:

The issues highlighted suggest a need for a more robust and practical approach to education, with a focus on real-world applications, career guidance, and quality teaching. Schools need to bridge the gap between theoretical knowledge and practical skills to better prepare students for the job market.

Sources: The barbarians are at the gate! Of universities, moats and disruption!, What happened to school spirit? | The Daily Peel | 1/18/21, Ivy League Certifications? A second shot or a scam, $600,000 in student debt - Will The Bubble Pop?, Is investment banking full of rich kids?

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These are all frustrating with the exception of the last one. Maybe this is pedantic but EBIT literally does represent the earnings before interest and tax. If you want these students to explain the meaning of it, ask them as a follow on to their answer or be more specific in your initial question. What a lightweight thing to ding someone for

 

Hey - I'll give some context to the last question. The question was which item in income statement showed the earnings before leverage Impact. I had to give the answer EBIT to the candidate (he was struggling with the question) and then asked what did it represent? His answer should have been earnings before impact of leverage (which I told him already). 

My point is that just phrasing EBIT in different way confused the candidate, not just asking for the full form. 

 

Student interested in investment banking but didn't know what exactly a banker did. Source of interest: Wolf of wall street. 

Hah, for what it’s worth, that’s always been a thing.
 

It just used to be Wall Street and/or American Psycho were the inspirations.  

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It has been a thing - but you don't tell that to your interviewer. My intrest in this industry grew from watching Margin call. This is how the conversation went BTW -

Interviewer - "So what made you interested in investment banking?"

Candidate - "I'd say watching the Wolf of Wall Street. The first half of the movie was awesome and I'd like to be part of the whole setup, you know?"

Me, internally thinking - DID YOU SEE THE SECOND HALF JIM? DID YOU?

Needless to say, Jim didn't make it to the next round. 

 

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