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Have an offer for this program but can’t find much details about it online. All i know is that it’s a 2 year rotational program. Also it’s listed under CIB, so would the base align with what those in IB get? Any insight would be extremely helpful.

 

I was looking at CIB at JP not long ago and I spoke to a few people about it. The impression I got is that while JP group it in their IB division other firms definitely don’t.

Considering this and that an Analyst in say S&T is compensated rather differently to someone in IBD, I’d speculate that’s likely CIB comp is lower than both of these divisions.

If you find any exact figures lmk I am rather interested.

 

It was 100k base on offer but as Jpm pushing to 110 for IB was wondering if it would get matched. Bonus wise I’m assuming much less

 

Base used to be align with those from IB for the last 3 years. However, with the last year's base salary increases of IBD Analysts at BBs, IBD base should be roughly 20% higher.

Besides, even if your base is similar or the same with IB, bonuses in the division tend to be 10 - 40% only whereas IB goes up to 100% so your take home pay is still much higher at IB despite similar bases. 

BofA calls it GTS and it falls under Global Banking (along with IB) and Citi calls it TTS (and falls under their CIB like JP as well).

Happy to answer any questions here / jump on a call to chat about the division as I currently work in the equivalent division at BofA/Citi.

 

What does your day-to-day look like, and what would you say is the best way to prepare for/succeed in this specific career path? 

 

Thanks for being open to advice! First I would like to know what are some of the tasks you do? Also what’s they typical hours your working per week? And how does advancement look from this role, any exit opportunities?

 

got an offer from Citi TTS management associate program and an offer from french bank (BNP/Socgen) structuring (documentation team to prepare termsheet, understand derivatives regulation etc) 1 year trainee.

very hard to decide which one should l pick...personally like investment more than cash management but french bank pays only an half of the permanent position since it is a trainee program and it is hard to convert to permanent contract according to my friend currently working there.

Could anyone share their views? thank you!

 
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Not sure if I'm too late but the gig isn't great (depending on your goals). If you want to go into IB, PE, VC, etc., it's not worth the time spent and I would get out of it ASAP (corporate banking would be the easiest lateral but it's still not *easy* per say). There's no three statement modeling. Absolutely no valuation. Your client's free cashflow or EBITDA doesn't matter and you will never calculate this.

The job is basically consumer banking but for corporates. Imagine everything you can do at a bank as a consumer....they do that for corporates, except getting them loans. What they do: liquidity AKA bank accounts for corporates (the bread and butter of the business; just like consumer banks are hungry for consumer deposits, corporate banks want Amazon's cash), corporate credit cards (like if you work at Google and they give you a company credit card; this is the card), trade & supply chain finance (paperwork for buyers/suppliers to guarantee goods and services are sent and paid for), literal cash safes/trucks that transport cash from Walmarts to banks, payments (wires, ACH, checks....literally anyway you can think of how you can send money to a person, they do that but for corporates), and more.

It's client-facing if you're in sales but as analyst, you're doing very basic tasks like selling and opening bank accounts. Maybe you're preparing a deck that tells Amazon how much cash they have in your bank account and the more senior salespeople tries to sell Amazon on some discounted wires or corporate credit cards to get them give up more of their juicy deposits. Every now and then, there's a new or updated product and you show Amazon what it is. Amazon says "maybe later" and then you try again in a few months. Maybe Amazon says they're taking all their cash from you to another bank and then you gotta prove you have the best credit card call centers or your cash management system supports complex files like XML ISO69420 or something to get them to give the deposits back.

On the product side, the work you do will vary greatly depending on the group. Product tasks are stuff like preparing decks describing what your product does for salespeople to present to clients, researching trends for your product, lots of meetings to improve the product/get a leg up on the competition....like product management stuff anywhere except you're working at a bank, so much more red tape and 0 innovation. If you're really into fintech product management, work for a fintech. Higher comp and more fulfilling work.

Comp is not comparable and never was. I know for a fact at one of the BBs that is very good at this, comp was $65K three years ago (IB, S&T, and corporate banking at the time was $85K) and bonus was <$10K. Today, you'll break $90-95K base at the first-year associate level but bonus could still be <$10K, although not that typical.

Pros: Great job security. Can be decent hours, maybe even a 9-5 depending on the group. The work isn't hard and doesn't need a background knowledge but does require you to wrap your head around lots of jargon (including regulation and technical jargon).

I don't think this is a bad job per say. It is a decent white collar job with a clear hierarchy of progression. You can get client-facing experience from day 1 in sales (compared to IB which will take years), and if you're lucky, you could have a portfolio of clients before you're 30. But you gotta be into the stuff you're selling. Personally, it looks to dry for me and the comp isn't high enough for my liking.

 

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