Biotech equity research possible with ZERO finance experience?
Hi all,
So I graduated a couple of years ago with a science background, have been in research 4+ yrs at a top institution (in a very competitive field) with a handful of publications (including first author).
I have been interning this summer at a pharma consulting firm but am also interested in exploring options in biotech/pharma equity research.
Is this even possible with no advanced degree (PhD etc), and **no finance experience? **
Does anyone have any insight on this? ..?? Thank you!
With a PhD and zero finance experience, its hard but definitely doable.
Without a PhD and zero finance experience, next to impossible unless you have an incredible track record showing solid industry experience (not just academic research). That being said, your pharma consulting exp should help.
I see that in some very rare instances, it seems that people can enter ER from a science background without finance. Perhaps 99.9% of these are MD or PhD holders.
Not sure if this pharma consulting internship will be especially helpful but if I wanted to try breaking into ER, what would be the best way? Should I try messaging ppl on linkedin for their advice?
Can someone at least tell me if this is some wildly unrealistic goal (given I know nothing about financial modeling etc). Is this something I can learn on the job?
Thank you all :)
Agreed with mrnysguy. Its definitely possible but not straight away. I would recommend jumping into pharma consulting first and taking the CFA L1 to show that you have some financial knowledge before going into ER
My little brother was in the same situation. Consulting is definitely easier to get in than ER. But you would definitely a relevant internship prior to getting a job in Consulting. I managed to get my brother an internship doing strategy consulting at one of the Big 4 firms. Without that experience, it would be very difficult to move into a business role (Consulting/ ER/ IBD) from purely an academic background (still in school/ college research).
Interviewed for a MM ER role covering biotech with zero science degree. Had previous internship experience in ER covering biotech and at big pharma. They didn't care about the modeling aspect etc. as this could be taught but did want a degree in science and previous associates had masters or PhD's....not sure how I was invited in TBH...so possible yes...although very situational with the group I'm guessing.
I know healthcare isn't your goal but look online for "Healthcare Resume Book". That is a small sample size of people leaving or entering banking/research after going back to school.
There are biotech books out there but I'm sure I'd somehow manage to get in trouble at work if I upload anything, sorry guys, you'll need to find these things yourself.
I think you are going to have a rough time developing investment ideas with no finance background at all. You need some kind of relevant internship or assistant position asap unless you want to go down the path of more school or a structured program like CFA.
Yes, it's quite common. You usually need an internship somewhere (Deloitte, IMS, etc.) to get in, but it's not hard.
Here's what I would do in your shoes:
1) Learn financial modeling - this is not difficult and there are resources readily available (Breaking into Wall Street, Wall Street Prep, etc.) it costs like $300 and is well worth the investment if you are serious
2) Read the Rosenbaum Investment Banking book - granted you are not doing IB, but a lot of the sections on comparable companies, precedent transactions, etc. will be highly relevant to ER
After doing #1 and #2:
3) Network with people in biotech ER with a similar background. In reality you don't need to be an MD or a PHD to do ER in the biotech/pharma space so those from traditional finance/business backgrounds aren't going to understand you/be particularly inclined to help you. Go on linkedin, find people with bio/pharma consulting or research backgrounds who transitioned into ER and talk with them about their role and how they made the switch. The 99.9% MD/PHD figure cited above is not accurate, I literally know a girl who did pharma consulting to biotech ER, highly doubt she is the only one. Find the others.
Yes, it's possible for BUYSIDE equity research. You need a relevant PhD (well known institution) and you need to have published some fairly legit stuff (high impact factors) during your PhD. Then, learn corporate finance, accounting, and financial modeling as Quaneaser said. Whatever firm ends up hiring you will probably make getting a CFA Level I within one year a condition of your employment (they will sponsor classes and the exam but it will be on your to get up to speed quickly). Some may even want you to have the CFA Level I before you even apply, which would definitely help.
Moving into Healthcare ER, What's the Worst Line on this Resume? (Originally Posted: 05/16/2016)
Have said it elsewhere so I'll be brief, but I'm a PhD with several years' post-doctoral experience in neuroscience/pharmacology finally getting the f*** out of academia and move into ER in the healthcare fields. Biotech, pharma, med tech... I am fascinated by them all. I've done a bunch of informational interviews with associates and analysts, and have been told repeatedly that I am doing everything correctly and just need to keep working at it and the right opportunity will come along.
Well, I've been working at this for 8 months and been unemployed for 6 of those. Admittedly, I was not ready for the first half of that time frame, and have only been told that I have done everything that I can for the past three months. I know I'm making continual progress and will eventually get a shot, but I'm running out of savings to pay the bills. Hell, I've started reaching out to friends that might help me get behind the bar again to bring in some kind of a paycheck while I keep networking.
That said, I'm getting lots of positive phone and email interaction, but have only had 2 in person interviews. As I didn't take any finance/business classes in grad school or undergrad (had blinders on about being career academic until a few years ago) and haven't taken the CFA yet, I know I'm behind the curve on experience and need to network my way into an interview. But the resume can always be improved. I have recently done a major face-lift on the resume to shrink it from 2 to 1 pages (I'm not fresh out of college, but I know now that 2 pages was still a mistake). I have a few extra lines to cut (looks like 4), so I wanted feedback on which lines were least relevant (for healthcare ER) that I should cut to finish tightening it up. I'm pretty sure I know 2 or 3 of those, but I left them in case you monkeys hate others instead.
All comments, no matter how harsh, are welcome. Happy to answer any follow up questions. Thanks in advance.
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EDITED I should add that most open positions ask for 1 or 2+ years experience in ER, but this job description shows what I am going for...
Requirements Exceptional academic background – PhD in a life-science related field or an MD is a strong plus Applicants without a doctoral degree but with experience in Healthcare Equity Research or Healthcare Investment Banking will also be considered Outstanding analytical skills. Ability to do deep primary research with industry executives, physicians and legal consultants Strong verbal and written communication skills Good work ethic, attention to detail and a desire to learn about the biotechnology industry and markets Proven ability to work well on teams, self-motivated, showing initiative and a willingness to work hard Series 7, 63, 86 & 87 required, or willingness to obtain
I would kill the summary section at the top. It doesn't add anything and just sounds like BS.
Everything on your resume should speak to actual experiences. The summary section makes it seem like you haven't actual done anything and are just filling space.
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