I can get MTM for around $85 per shirt.
Shirts you buy at retail are never slim enough, and require around 15-20 in tailoring. I'm thinking of just going the MTM route instead. My only concern is how long the shirts will hold up (washing, ironing, daily use, etc...)
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Yes. Mainly because retail shirts will never fit me, regardless of how much I drop on tailoring. Main problem is that the armholes will always be gigantic.
I would buy a couple, then wait for a sale on indochino and buy 6 or so more.
Brooks Brothers extra slim non iron are fantastic.
For me yes, because I have yet to find a shirt that fits me properly without tailoring (product of being short and slim). The fatter America gets... the harder it will be to find clothes.
MTM shirts should hold up just as well, if not better, than off the rack shirts. They usually specify the fabrics as well, so you can stay away from any cheaper ones.
I blow through elbows in 4-6 months and have no idea where people are finding decent MTM shirts for 85 bucks. I was paying at least 200 for mine and felt stupid having to buy new ones twice a year. Now I do brooks brothers extra slim; can't beat it for 70 bucks a pop.
All that said, the MTM were miles better. I just didn't find they were worth it for me in the long run. Ymmv.
Charles Tyrwhitt slim fit non-iron shirts are fucking incredible for what you pay (5" 10"; 150). They are equivilent to the extra slim fit Brooks Bros.
---Personally, I'm not a fan of the Brooks Bros collars and pockets they put on their dress shirts. CT shirts have more of a modern look to them.
Have you looked into Proper Cloth? I've bought a few shirts from them. They fit great and have held up just as well if not better than any of the other off the shelf shirts I own.
Rocked the Brooks Extra Slim over my first SA gig. Put on 10+ lbs. of muscle that year, had to switch to the Slim to gain some room in the chest. Still wasn't good enough, went the MTM route. Regret not doing it earlier. The caveat can be that if you ruin one (indelible stains, tear, etc.) it's a real kick in the nuts because of the cost, but the fit can't be beat.
how much did you pay per shirt?
Yeah, the BB extra slim fit shirts are awesome. Probably the best fit I am going to get before going custom shirts from a tailor.
BB shirts feel a little tough and harsh to me. Has anyone else experienced this?
I just bought two BB extra slim fit shirts today and love them, the fit is great
I recently bought two BB extra slim for 83 bucks at an outlet, fit wise very good, not perfect but close enough. Would buy like 20 if i found them regularly at 40 a pop.
Completely agree that MTM shirts are the way to go. But then again I wear a 17.5" neck with 37in sleeves...only shirt that comes in that size is the Nordstrom's regular fit at $90 and I have to get it tailored anyway to fit my greek god like physique. So the $75 I pay for it to be custom fit is way better.
Absolutely. Since there are so few Greek gods in the marketplace, brands can't afford to mass-produce for you: they can't earn a decent ROCE on the "long tail" of the inventory distribution.
That said, **most normal mortals can find multiple mass-produced brands that fit them well. ** They can then apply the principal of healthy competition, and get great quality shirts for $50. Because they have better ways to spend their money.
When you know only one brand that fits, you're at the mercy of that brand. When you know three, you've got the leverage.
Here's the problem: unless you're an ultra-marathoner, you don't have the stamina to try on everything in the marketplace. You need a machine to do the work for you.
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Anyone knows where to get affordable non-iron MTM shirts?
You can find some good deals with lesser-known brands. Focus on the quality of cut/ adaptations and make sure the fabric is not weird.
Since the fabric is more than half of the production cost of a shirt, be highly skeptical of "too good to be true" pricing from new online MTM brands. You don't want to wear a shirt with perfect fit but cheap fabric that don't last.
This. I know my custom shirts cost more but they have been through many launderings and still look fantastic.
WardrobeEssentialist are there any other brands that compare to Turnbull & Asser for MTM?
My son had great luck with Proper Cloth: they nailed it on the first try.
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