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Not the Vernon. The Fifth Ave is fine, I have those in walnut calf but honestly, they're too ostentatious as a summer, as I discovered.

Stick with black calf or brown, avoid walnut. If you do have walnut, your belt needs to match, and that's simply too loud. If you want another Allen Edmonds model, look at the Park Ave. You should only get that in black though, because the walnut comes in grain leather, and that's not at all office appropriate.

I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

I think either of these should be ok if they're in black or dark brown; the Vernon's are definitely the more fashion-forward of the two. Lighter browns like the walnut calf are less formal and are probably not the right choice for an interview.

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nauprillionblack > brown. you won't regret it. trust me.

well off course you cant go wrong with black, but brown sets you apart a bit and is more classy.

Am i looking at this the wrong way?

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
 

Brown is indeed a versatile colour and goes well with chinos and jeans but when it comes to business wear, black is the way to go. It goes with all major suit colours: Navy, charcoal, grey. For now black is the better investment. Trust me, the quaility is what will make you stand out, not the colour. Its easy to spot a pair of Allens and those that do, will appreciate it and its more important to be "noticed" by those than by the ones that can't tell the difference. The colour brown will most probably just draw unwanted attention.

 
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nauprillionBrown is indeed a versatile colour and goes well with chinos and jeans but when it comes to business wear, black is the way to go. It goes with all major suit colours: Navy, charcoal, grey. For now black is the better investment. Trust me, the quaility is what will make you stand out, not the colour. Its easy to spot a pair of Allens and those that do, will appreciate it and its more important to be "noticed" by those than by the ones that can't tell the difference. The colour brown will most probably just draw unwanted attention.

I see what you're saying.

As someone else suggested, would you also stick with a more standard dress shoe like park avenue (http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/producti_SF270_1_40000000001_-1). I was looking at brogues just because they're a bit more interesting.

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
 

This is your first shoe?

Black, no question. It is the basic. You don't buy a weekend car before you buy the daily driver, same principle here. You need something you can interview in, wear on a date, attend a funeral in, and spend a night out in. Black works for all those occasions and more. It is the staple to your wardrobe, and until you have it, you can't work around it.

Fifth Ave or Park Ave is not a big decision, both are fine.

I am permanently behind on PMs, it's not personal.
 

If this is actually your first dress shoe (how the fuck that is even possible is beyond me) black is the answer. Period.

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my first real dress shoes. i'm not counting my cheap glued loafers

thanks for the tips everyone

"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
 

If you're going brown and want to 'stand out', make sure your resume, personality, and interviewing skills stand out as well. I'd go with black shoes. Good luck.

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They're perfect for the office, and their heels are perfect for grinding into the faces of the poor. Enjoy your $400 shoes.

 

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