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Price range?
No price point really, just a really solid shirt.
Suit Supply or Jos A Bank to save money;
lol, no
Jantzen Tailors for tailored shirts, it's a hit or miss though.
Eton.
Agreed. Although that relies heavily on your "no price point really" statement.
http://www.etonshirts.com/us/shop-online
I'm a big fan of Charles Tyrwhitt
Yes, Charles Tyrwhitt
Far from perfect but they fit me well and the non-iron is a lifesaver. For the price probably can't be beat.
CEGO?
Eton? They're overpriced even if you have no price point. The salesmen will be laughing at you when you leave the store.
Agreed. Would never pay retail. However Ebay has several on sale from time to time in my size for a fraction of retail (50$) and they're pretty much good as new. But buyer beware.
I usually buy Eton shirts on sales. 3 for 100$ etc. I like that they are incredibly wrinkle resistant, and they seem to last forever. Nice beater shirts! I don't like that the collar stays are permanently attached to the collar. I also picked up their "DNA" collection, which cost around 450$ new...while they're nice, I wouldn't say that they're 250$ extra nice. But again, they can be found much cheaper during sales.
For a plain dress shirt, with semi-spread collar, far I've had success with the following brands: -Borrelli
-Loro Piana -Barba -Truzzi
Since I know my size and model, I tend to just buy them brand new from Ebay re-sellers, which is like buying sales items anyway. You can find brand new with tags Borrelli on ebay for 160$...
Seconding Borrelli, great shirts. Also off of ebay lol.
How do you find Eton shirts on sales? Eton's website?
no such thing as the perfect shirt at Charles Tyrwhitt prices. if you get a discount code you can get CT shirts for 30-40 bucks. your best bet is to get 100% custom. get someone who measures everything, even the difference in wrist depending on the type of watch you wear, type of cuff (not just barrel or french, but square, notch, curved, etc.). in the southeast, they go for about $120 a pop. ask some of the guys in your office, but don't just price big box tailors like Tom James, try a small business owner or even a guy who does it out of his garage, you'd be surprised.
Same for Thomas Pink too. Love their French cuff shirts.
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Brookes brothers
Brofessor is correct, shirts should be custom made. Getting a shirt to fit your belly, chest, arms, neck and sleeve length is impossible off the rack. I recommend Maxwells - best price to quality ratio if you're patient enough to wait until he hits your city.
Here's the link: www . maxwellsclothiers . com I'll be the first to admit that the site doesn't incite confidence, but trust me, the shirts are great.
I toss my white shirts every 8-10 months. Best place for white shirts is Costco. Can't beat them for $18 a pop.
Bro's correct again. You can typically find a good tailor in your town who won't bust the bank but it's primarily about fit. Unless the fabric's cheap as shit the fit is your primary concern. I've even bought Jo Banks shirts where they give you 3 for one and had them tailored there for a few bucks (get 4 shirts for a bill then $15/shirt) so they fit and don't wrinkle at all (travel shirts) that look good. Not great but very, very passable.
Wasting money on clothes when you don't have FU clothes money early in your career just isn't worth it in my opinion. I did it
Funny you mention that, I recently bought 3 Jo Banks shirts and got them tailored too. Passable, they are. Great, they are not. Why not, in my opinion? No french placket, no true spread or cutaway collars and weird creases at the cuff that won't go away. That, and their off the rack fit is made for people who like to float around in their clothes like a hummingbird in a blimp.
Not great by any means and they do have weird creases but as a travel shirt that gets stuck in a carry on, they work. My really good shirts look like I blew my nose and crumpled them up when I travel.
L.L Bean :-)
No price point basically means Turnbull & Asser for me. Just know that your first order has to be a minimum of 6 shirts and you're spending $450+ per shirt.
If you actually want to be practical, though, check out Kamakura Shirts on Madison Avenue if you're in NYC. They sell really high quality shirts at reasonable prices.
Honestly white ones, I have bought great fitting slim fit white dress shirts at TJ Maxx. Only white though any other color you can't get there.
Calvin Klein offers good quality at a good price
I'm still in school, so my bank account has a lot less 0's at the end than many users, but these shirts fit great and appear to be well-made, in my experience:
http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_414854
For what it's worth, I'm a few inches above average height, lean but fairly muscular. Obviously, trying them on would be the best move...but given that they have free shipping at the moment, you can always order one and return it for free if the fit isn't what you're looking for.
How thin are the shirts?
Pretty normal, IMO. Check one out at a store, or again, order one online (free shipping) and return it if you're not satisfied. I exclusively stick to brands of clothes that I know have good customer service / won't give me a hard time on returns if I'm not satisfied.
Depends how much do you plan on spending... I usually buy my suits and shirts from Suit Supply because they have beautiful suits that seems to fit my body perfectly and its decently priced.
easy jc penny. lol
easy, jc penny. lol
I have expensive shits, MTM shirts, Brooks non iron, banana, etc. I love the MTM, but you just burn through shirts at a junior level. Like I used to wear French cuff all the time, but switched to exclusively normal button cuffs because I'm in a non sales role at this point.
IMO, books is just fine. Get it darted if you're skinny or want a better fit. You're going to blow the shirt out in a year or so anyway. Shirts, socks, underware, all disposable elements. Spend the money on shoes ties, belts, suits, etc.
Although they aren't perfect or custom, TM Lewin "super fitted" may be the best fitting OTR shirt I have ever bought. I haven't used TM Lewin in a few years and recently saw they added some new fit options and gave it a shot. Really impressed with the fit
Pink.
http://store.zegna.com/us/men/shirts/?macro=932µ=25941&color=8106&…
Worth every penny
I love Zegnas, my favorite shirts but you can get them literally dirt cheap on Ebay used, so I've never bought retail new...
Thomas Pink
ownonly that is a men's custom brand. And They have a active‘3 custom dress shirts for the price of 2‘ --coupon code：3X2SHIRTS
would second the post about kamakura shirts in madison avenue NY. they have an online store as well. Highly rated by many and deemed to have one of the best price to quality ratios.
Eton by far is my favorite shirt brand. It's slim fit line blows others out of the water.
I see a lot of silly answers. A shirt has to be tailored. Go to a good tailor, pick a fabric that you like and let the master do his job. There is no such thing as a "perfect' shirt from "off the rack' cloths or from a websites...
This depends on a couple of things, since you are already asking about finding the 'perfect' shirt I'd simply go MTM from a local tailor or even one of the 'branded' online places. See how that works for you. The second method, and depending heavily on your body type, is to go to all the majors (Brooks Brothers, Jos A. Bank, etc) and try on their different slim fit/classic fit shirts and see if any come close. Sometimes a brand will simply cut perfectly to you and then when there is a sale, like I do with brooks brothers, you can load up on the basics.
TNA however made a very good point in that I would focus the bulk of your budget on nice shoes/matching belts and then suits/outerwear. Suits you will get more bang for the buck in tailoring than anything but quality outerwear will last you a lifetime if you treat it correctly, same with shoes.
Ask around your office and see if someone uses a tailor. I've been able to get custom shirts for $75/each through a tailor an associate I work with introduced me to, and even the more senior people have tailors who make great shirts for a little over $100.
While CT and Brooks non-irons may work well for traveling, I used to blow holes in the elbows every few months. The thin material may prevent wrinkles but the shirts just don't last that long for me.
Used to wear >$200 off-the-rack shirts, but switched over to http://propercloth.com a couple of months ago. Was a real game changer for me. I love the selection of fabrics, the fit is the best I've ever had and the customer service is also the best I've experienced in a while. Give it a try and I'm certain you won't regret it.
I second propercloth, they make incredible shirts.
It is absurd to pay more than $50 for an OTR shirt, as almost all of them are garbage and fit poorly.
MTM for everyday, CT shirts on sale for travel
You guys...
Pink slim fit.
Brooks Brothers Slim Fit (blue or green tag)
I also started using www.propercloth.com -- it took a couple tries to get the custom fit right, but now it's perfect.
It seems I'm one of the few who prefers men's wearhouse to joseph a bank.
http://www.menswearhouse.com/mens-clothes/dress-shirts/modern-fit-trim-…
Great fabric and a really great fit for someone with an average build. Men's wearhouse has sales all the time and I recently bought four of these for like $140 total on a buy one get one free offer.
Hugo Boss and then take it to your tailor.
Ledbury
Suitsupply. for around $100 a shirt, you get a slim fit and pretty decent quality. Nothing top tier, obviously.
This also probably won't work for everyone, but I've had very good luck with Express. Their clothes have a significantly slimmer fit than most OTR American brands, and their dress shirts work well even with a Bespoke suit. I've also found a couple of ties that cost me $50 a pop but looked comparable to ones two or three times that price.
There's a tradeoff that prevents them from being too good to be true: durability is relatively low. The colored dress shirts in particular suffer from a problem where the collar tends to whiten out after a few washes, rendering it unsuitable for use at work.
Alton Lane. Never personally gotten one from there, but the process/product seems pretty interesting
http://www.altonlane.com/shirts.html/
Banana Republic is not the best place to shop for anything formal, but their non-iron tailored slim white dress shirt is excellent given the $80 price.
Banana Republic is not the best place to shop for anything formal, but their non-iron tailored slim white dress shirt is excellent given the $80 price.
Banana Republic is not the best place to shop for anything formal, but their non-iron tailored slim white dress shirt is excellent given the $80 price.
Banana Republic is not the best place to shop for anything formal, but their non-iron tailored slim white dress shirt is excellent given the $80 price.
Alright we get it
CEGO Shirtmaker on Fifth in NYC. Best custom shirts around.
Recently, My friend purchased stitched shirts and also material which is of good quality in amazing colors.
Forget white, stick to blue shirts ;) Paul Stuart if you're in NY
Which kind of blue? and Why :) ?
A few friends love this place http://kamakurashirts.com/
White Collar Shirts (Originally Posted: 01/03/2010)
thoughts?
do a search.
For work, only if you're an MD.
I've seen VPs wear these. Never anyone below vp though (except as a joke).
Please Feel Free to do so.
White collars are great...with white shirts.
^ Hahahaha, this is awesome.
Assuming we are talking about the U.S. here:
Wearing a shirt with white contrast collar/cuffs as an analyst in IBD would be unwise. My former group pulled a summer analyst aside to explain that his "white collar" was making him look foolish. He was mortified.
As an associate in IBD, it's pushing it.
As a VP, maybe... depending on firm/group culture.
SVP/MD... go for it.
If you're in Europe, it's more acceptable at all levels.
Hmm.. i'm working with a senior trader who enjoys wearing white collars and i'm in no position to make fun of him =)
I think they look slick but analysts can't pull them off.
Even in London where bankers are a bit more outgoing with their clothes, we don't advise white collars and cuffs at analyst or even associate levels. It's really one of thoes "if you have to ask, you shouldn't do it" questions.
Cuth
I really really thank god I will not be working in the US... Some of you guys are so stuck up ...It's just pathetic. You guys realize you consider that the white color of a colar is not tolated below a certain level of seniority !? Do you guys also ask your MDs if you can f*ck a hotter chick than him too or if you can spend more than him for lunch ? God... Btw, IN LONDON I have seen several analyst (1st year) wear white collar+cuff shirts (in top BBs) without anybody giving them crap - I did the same as a summer intern too, same result. GROW (a pair) up !
Paulson white shirts. (Originally Posted: 02/10/2009)
Most of my clothing shopping is done online since its usually cheaper. I have no problems ordering most clothes but there seems to be a problem with dress shirts.
I have three brands currently in my wardrobe; calvin klein, donald j. trump, and geoffrey beene. The trump shirt is silk and doesn't have that see through effect like the other two(similar to Paulson when he was giving the TARP speech).
So my question is.... where can I find decently priced dress shirts(typical solid white and blues) for under $30-40?
Note** college student so i'm not willing to spend $150/shirt.
check bluefly, overstock, smartbargains in that order. if you live by ny/nj go to century 21. good stuff at saks/neiman outlets too.
Go to Macys. You'll find a ton of shirts for 30-40 bucks.
Do not wear silk dress shirts to work. Also, if you are not in a rush, you can wait for sales at places like brooks brothers and get 3 shirts for around 130.
Ralph lauren was having a sale not to long ago. You can't go wrong with ralph.
Charles Tyrwhitt is having a pretty good sale now on their new line - four shirts for $199. A bit above the $30-40 price tag, but the shirts are really, really nice and usually cost somewhere between $150-225.
haha.. i fell for their sale once too. Then i realized they have sales 24/7 and the sale price is their original price... the quality sucks...
You think their quality sucks? Really? All the shirts I've gotten from there are pretty top notch. One is a bit thin, but they wash and press well - certainly better than nearly all other shirts you'll find for $50.
Looked online and they had tons of shirts that were reg. $150+ for $34-$60 bucks. Both solid whites to Gecko-esq styles.
Looked online and they had tons of shirts that were reg. $150+ for $34-$60 bucks. Both solid whites to Gecko-esq styles.
brooks bros and charles tyrwhitt are staple business casual dress shirts for an intern's wardrobe
ralph lauren is great too but a little more on the casual side.
this should be in the "Attire/Clothing" topic instead of ibanking bullpen
Charles Tyrwhitt has sales year round. I have a few shirts from there. They aren't bad considering the price. Not the best quality but it does the job.
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