holocene / candlestick
Are funds like holocene and candlestick that have spun out of citadel similar to EP and millennium.
Seeing more headhunters pushing openings there at las of late.
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holocene's SEC adviser info filing is interesting they claim investments are on a "6-24 month" time horizon, who is putting on positions with a year long time horizon in a market neutral portfolio w strict drawdown limits?
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everyone puts on investments with 1+ year time horizon (have to have some way to back into a target price that you can write down...).
Of course, if you get your catalyst earlier, you can decide to exit next week.
Holocene is run by ex-Citadel ppl. Candlestick founder worked for Plotkin and is ex-Surveyor PM.
Would also like to add that Millennium and EP are different and should not be mentioned in the same sentence. Sure, they are both MMs, but they are structured a little differently and the PMs have a lot more autonomy and margin for error, meaning you won't be fired tomorrow just because you're down 5%. ExodusPoint was founded because the founder did not get years of bonus carry and sued his boss, Izzy, for his compensation.
It was settled and he wanted to piss Izzy off deliberately, hence the name ExodusPoint, it is a place for those exiled from Millennium, they still are poaching all the talent they can from Millennium. EP strives to be everything that Millennium is not for the employees culture wise.
Ya Exoduspoint is millennium without the returns
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